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David Noble strength wasn't coaching. His strength is list management. Go look at his history. List manager at the crows for a few years until the end of 2016. Crows then make a grand final.

From The end of 2016 until the end of 2020, he was the list manager at Brisbane. He was a key reason why Lachie Neale went to leaving Freo to go to Brisbane
 
Well, let’s not go nuts.
Statistically speaking they are and with a better list.

Noble is gone.Players look completely disinterested.
 
Sacking him now undoes whatever tiny steps forward they have so far taken.
They haven’t taken any steps forward. They are quite obviously going in the wrong direction and are perfoming worse than when he took over. He needs to go before more damage is done.
 

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They haven’t taken any steps forward. They are quite obviously going in the wrong direction and are perfoming worse than when he took over. He needs to go before more damage is done.


They’re performing worse than when he took over because they got rid of half their list - of course they are going worse.
Having made the decision to do that, there is no point going ‘whoa that was silly better get all those players back’ because they can’t.
They’ve chosen an approach, it defeats the purpose of having chosen it in the first place if they scrap it after three and a half months of football
 
I don’t see what sacking him will achieve. All it does is make the job harder for the next bloke. They’ve committed to a certain path, and despite how bad the results have been, the mere fact that a while stack of kids have had a dozen games put into them means they’ve made a start to that path. Noble has built a relationship of some description with the current list.

It just takes them back to square one

The gameplan is terrible.
We need a circuit breaker and someone to allow the players to play freely.
 
They’re performing worse than when he took over because they got rid of half their list - of course they are going worse.
Having made the decision to do that, there is no point going ‘whoa that was silly better get all those players back’ because they can’t.
They’ve chosen an approach, it defeats the purpose of having chosen it in the first place if they scrap it after three and a half months of football
Bullshit. They should not be anywhere near this bad.
 
They’re performing worse than when he took over because they got rid of half their list - of course they are going worse.
Having made the decision to do that, there is no point going ‘whoa that was silly better get all those players back’ because they can’t.
They’ve chosen an approach, it defeats the purpose of having chosen it in the first place if they scrap it after three and a half months of football
With the list they have I believe they should be preforming better than they are. Melbourne had a worse list in 2013 and had a better percentage and an extra win. There is no point in keeping Noble around if the players have checked out.

North need to do what Melbourne did after Neeld got sacked and get an experienced coach in to take the heat for a few years while they slowly build themselves up. Trade in some experience players who can help set the standards around the joint.
 
Notice alot of our losses are 40-50 to 100ish points kicked by the opposition.

I believe Noble is trying to get them playing damage control footy to keep the margins around 50pts to save his job.

22 inside 50s against the Cats is a joke.
Also we are now on the longest steak of 47pt+ losing margins in history.

Even more than Fitzroy or early GWS.
 
they've gotten worse as the year has gone on, which is what you might expect from a youngish, crap team. it's a hard slog.
current coaching setup bearing the brunt of some of mr scott's search for glory, and the coaches down the line have to sort out the mess. they are in that sort period where they bounce around the arse of the ladder before something clicks. maybe just takes time.
good luck north fans. i know all too well it feels like shit.
 
North need to be careful not to stuff this up. Noble may or may not be the man for the job. That's hard to say from the outside. He's obviously not going to be around once they eventually come good. It's very rare for a coach during a rebuild (especially when the team is struggling to this degree) to still be coaching when things turn.
As long as he isn't doing more damage than good, losing the players, or completely incompetent (which on field results won't necessarily show), then they're better off sticking with him. The lure of Clarkson is obviously strong, but we won't turn them around in 1-2 years. It's too early for a Clarko type at North.
They have to stay the course and let the sacrificial lamb steer them through the storm.
 

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Watch Leigh Montagna on First Crack.
Basically called out Noble for mixed messaging.

At half time he told fox footy that we needed to continue to retain the ball and basically chip it around.
Then at his full time press conference he blamed the players for not kicking long down the line as the game shifted and became wet.

 
Notice alot of our losses are 40-50 to 100ish points kicked by the opposition.

I believe Noble is trying to get them playing damage control footy to keep the margins around 50pts to save his job.
We're doing similar under Nicks except we only lose by six goals most weeks.
 
Also we are now on the longest steak of 47pt+ losing margins in history.
Kinda funny the closest team you've got to in the last ten weeks is the reigning premier who is a game clear on top.
 
they've gotten worse as the year has gone on, which is what you might expect from a youngish, crap team. it's a hard slog.
current coaching setup bearing the brunt of some of mr scott's search for glory, and the coaches down the line have to sort out the mess. they are in that sort period where they bounce around the arse of the ladder before something clicks. maybe just takes time.
good luck north fans. i know all too well it feels like s**t.
Sounds like freos 2017 season.

Freo were 0-2, played the old farts, once Geelong beat us by 40 points in Perth and port smashed us by 89 points in Adelaide, youth was the priority.

Freo won 6 of the next 7. Freo were 6-3 after 9 games. Crows beat us by 100 points 143-43. Freo won only 2 of their last 12 games to go 8-14.
 
Watch Leigh Montagna on First Crack.
Basically called out Noble for mixed messaging.

At half time he told fox footy that we needed to continue to retain the ball and basically chip it around.
Then at his full time press conference he blamed the players for not kicking long down the line as the game shifted and became wet.


this was pretty damning tbh.

he blames the players in the presser for following his instructions.

on borrowed time i reckon
 

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I look at their list, and I think… actually, they should be that bad. Part of that, of course, is poor player development, but wow the cattle are ordinary.
They won four games last year, if not for WCE having to rely on top up players they'd have donuts this year and we're in round 16.
Even the possibility of a one-win season is unbelievable to, even Neeld did better than that.
 
bloody tough pill for north members to swallow.

North are significantly worse than they were last year. Not close to it so not sure how much is related to the actual coach but having a losing margin of 50+ (or whatever it is) is death sentence type stuff.
 
They won four games last year, if not for WCE having to rely on top up players they'd have donuts this year and we're in round 16.
Even the possibility of a one-win season is unbelievable to, even Neeld did better than that.
It’s not just the one win, it’s the appalling % that goes with it.

But seriously, I look at that list, I see one excellent player in Simpkin, one good-but-inconsistent in LDU, a few creaking veterans and then a hell of a lot of nothing.
 
It’s not just the one win, it’s the appalling % that goes with it.

But seriously, I look at that list, I see one excellent player in Simpkin, one good-but-inconsistent in LDU, a few creaking veterans and then a hell of a lot of nothing.
Simpkin has been outright terrible, LDU has been great for the last month. I think the young players like JHF, Powell, are developing well. TT is in a rut, Zurhaar at his best is pretty useful but the gap between best and worst is still large. McKay is a good full back I maintain that norths issue is that 25-29 yo are not existant and out older players are cooked. The other kids of which there is some good prospects need some dependable older players to allow them to play and develop without having to do all the heavy lifting.

Again the problem isn’t cutting so hard. It was the recruiting of those players in the first place. I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure that before LDU in 2017 our previous top 5 pick was Cunnington in 2009, Lachlan Hansen in 2006 and Daniel Wells in 2002. That’s a severe lack of top end talent over a 15 year period. It’s not everything but I’d hazard a guess that it’s pretty low compared to other clubs and thus a factor of sone type
 

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