David Warner

[TheHoneyBadger]

I see Swann had a crack at him today, which is rather ironical considering Swann is a coward who quit on his mates in the middle of a tour.

Swann's an absolute clown.
Danced around like a ****ing idiot whenever England were on top, made smartass comments, was typically arrogant and wrote it off as being the 'funnyman' on tour, and when it gets tough and the team's 3-0 down he throws the toys out of the cot, goes home and lives out his days criticising other players and countries.
Top cricketer, but just a jackass of the highest order.

 

[hbk_aus]

All of our Aussie bias and Swann retirement stuff aside, does anybody actually disagree with anything he said about Warner?

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Swann is a w***er and a hypocrite.

 

[Matera92]

All of our Aussie bias and Swann retirement stuff aside, does anybody actually disagree with anything he said about Warner?

Swann is a gutless front runner who is casting stones from the safety of retirement. He couldn't even stick out his last series, just up and quit when things got tough.

We all know that David isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, however he is a fierce competitor and loves a scrap. That mongrel is what the Australian team thrives on, and it is why we pantsed the soft, arrogant, mentally weak pathetic excuse of a cricket team England fielded.

If Swann thinks for one second that Davey didn't cop it from the Saffers for his comments in the media then he is an even more clueless ****wit than I first thought.

As far as I'm concerned anything Swann says has absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

 

[peternorth]

i read with interest that a poster called for craddock to apologise. why? their job is to write stories. if it's factually incorrect and offends the target then they will take legal action.

if the OP stated warner was out of form and should be dropped (along side off field issues) then at the time it could have been right. mountain of runs later thread is bumped. over the winter thread will die, and if warner struggles again, it will be bumped.

rinse and repeat

 

[Keys]

All of our Aussie bias and Swann retirement stuff aside, does anybody actually disagree with anything he said about Warner?

My summation of what swann said about Warner

Likes talking shit to the opposition when he's up and about doing well
Quiet when he isn't doing so well
Pretends to like the rough and tumble but it's all a bit of false bravado
Can play cricket alright but is a bit of a tosser that he wouldn't like to have a beer with

On balance probably a fair bit of truth to all that. Could also have been standing in front of a mirror describing what he saw

 

[Mateyman]

My summation of what swann said about Warner

Likes talking shit to the opposition when he's up and about doing well
Quiet when he isn't doing so well
Pretends to like the rough and tumble but it's all a bit of false bravado
Can play cricket alright but is a bit of a tosser that he wouldn't like to have a beer with

On balance probably a fair bit of truth to all that. Could also have been standing in front of a mirror describing what he saw

Nah, that's bullshit. He's just as loud-mouthed and stupid when he's doing badly. "Quiet when not performing" is one criticism you couldn't say about Warner.

 

[Kram]

It's hard to imagine Warner just abandoning his teammates halfway through a losing series just because it all got too hard.

 

[Keys]

It's hard to imagine Warner just abandoning his teammates halfway through a losing series just because it all got too hard.

Hard to imagine any test cricketer doing it without there being some underlying reason more significant than nah I just cbf'd any more I'm leaving you guys to it, but some just swann off into the distance

Phrasal Verb: Swan off
Meaning: Leave somewhere in a defiant or pompous manner

Has the right name for it he does

 

[damochandler]

My summation of what swann said about Warner

Likes talking shit to the opposition when he's up and about doing well
Quiet when he isn't doing so well
Pretends to like the rough and tumble but it's all a bit of false bravado
Can play cricket alright but is a bit of a tosser that he wouldn't like to have a beer with

On balance probably a fair bit of truth to all that. Could also have been standing in front of a mirror describing what he saw

i wouldn't say that

 

[JUBJUB]

Well Dave scored on and off field during the Ashes.He got one through the covers and Candice is knocked up.

 

[The_Reaper]

My summation of what swann said about Warner

Likes talking shit to the opposition when he's up and about doing well
Quiet when he isn't doing so well
Pretends to like the rough and tumble but it's all a bit of false bravado
Can play cricket alright but is a bit of a tosser that he wouldn't like to have a beer with

On balance probably a fair bit of truth to all that. Could also have been standing in front of a mirror describing what he saw

I'd disagree. Warner talks shit regardless. The only reason he didn't speak much in England was because he was still feeling very sheepish about punching Root.

I'd also say that Warner- like Broad - is someone who actually does mean it when he says he enjoys the verbal fights and being the villain.

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

I'd disagree. Warner talks shit regardless. The only reason he didn't speak much in England was because he was still feeling very sheepish about punching Root.

I'd also say that Warner- like Broad - is someone who actually does mean it when he says he enjoys the verbal fights and being the villain.

Unfortunately the way the system works is that Broad can talk smack in press conferences and as he's walking back to his mark, stand his ground when he clearly deflected it and behave like a complete clown at times*, but when Warner does it, it's a problem.
Australian cricketers always seem to cop more criticism for what other international cricketers do all the time. You just can't win with these people. They're either rubbing it in our noses when we're down or whining we're not playing in the spirit of the game when we're winning.

*Don't get me wrong, I really like Broad. Great cricketer and adds a bit of spice to the individual contests, if you look past the nonsensical media campaign against him and the suburban consensus that 'Stuart Broad is a Sh*t Bloke'.

 

[The_Reaper]

Unfortunately the way the system works is that Broad can talk smack in press conferences and as he's walking back to his mark, stand his ground when he clearly deflected it and behave like a complete clown at times*, but when Warner does it, it's a problem.
Australian cricketers always seem to cop more criticism for what other international cricketers do all the time. You just can't win with these people. They're either rubbing it in our noses when we're down or whining we're not playing in the spirit of the game when we're winning.

*Don't get me wrong, I really like Broad. Great cricketer and adds a bit of spice to the individual contests, if you look past the nonsensical media campaign against him and the suburban consensus that 'Stuart Broad is a Sh*t Bloke'.

I agree with you completely here.

Yeah, Broad is a dickhead on the field. But so what? He's a very good cricketer and backs up his shit with performances. And he's great fun to boo.

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

I agree with you completely here.

Yeah, Broad is a dickhead on the field. But so what? He's a very good cricketer and backs up his shit with performances. And he's great fun to boo.

Exactly.
I remember just laughing hearing the booing during the Melbourne Test (went to all 4 days), and then sat about 10 rows back from the fence on Day 4, and as he ran back from an over to a deep mid on it was silent aside from the usual crowd chatter, so I just let out a big 'booooooooooooooooooooo' and he turned around laughing and then turned his attention back to the cricket. I was glad he could appreciate the humour, but for all he knew I was a bloke with a beer in each hand wearing one of those 'Sh*t Bloke' T-shirts, haha.

 

[CakeEater]

Kim Hughes says Warner can be as damaging as Sir Viv.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricke...-as-viv-richards/story-fndpt0dy-1226849553336

massive massive massive call.

 

[krisholio14]

Kim Hughes says Warner can be as damaging as Sir Viv.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricke...-as-viv-richards/story-fndpt0dy-1226849553336

massive massive massive call.

One if my posts on this thread in September 2011...

Warner is one of the most talented batsmen in the country.

A couple of cricket judges whose opinions I note and respect, said to me about 18 months ago that Warner was the best hitter of a ball they'd seen since Viv Richards.

At first I laffed, but on thinking about it later, in terms of pure hitting, they probably weren't far off the mark.

I think he's been unfairly pigeonholed, and as I said earlier, since he's been given a real go at first class level he's making big runs against decent attacks on their pitches.

Sure, you might like him to play another 20 games and 'prove' himself, but why? He's a prodigious talent who is in red hot form, why shouldn't he be given a go? The Aussie selectors have promoted batsmen of far less talent with comparable experience in the past.

 

[CakeEater]

Thats fair enough but he has a long long way to go, before he can be considered in the same class as The Master Blaster.

 

[krisholio14]

My summation of what swann said about Warner

Likes talking shit to the opposition when he's up and about doing well
Quiet when he isn't doing so well
Pretends to like the rough and tumble but it's all a bit of false bravado
Can play cricket alright but is a bit of a tosser that he wouldn't like to have a beer with

On balance probably a fair bit of truth to all that. Could also have been standing in front of a mirror describing what he saw

Nah, that's bullshit. He's just as loud-mouthed and stupid when he's doing badly. "Quiet when not performing" is one criticism you couldn't say about Warner.

I'd disagree. Warner talks shit regardless. The only reason he didn't speak much in England was because he was still feeling very sheepish about punching Root.

I'd also say that Warner- like Broad - is someone who actually does mean it when he says he enjoys the verbal fights and being the villain.

Swann could have been talking about any of hundreds of sportsmen and women in their respective games.

But he's wrong about Warner. Davey is an A grade shit stirrer who always has something to say, winning or losing. Whether people would prefer him to pipe down or not, I find most of what he says is right on the money regardless of how much of a loose canon he is.

 

[krisholio14]

Thats fair enough but he has a long long way to go, before he can be considered in the same class as The Master Blaster.

He's not saying he's as good as, he's saying he can be as damaging as. Davey already shown on several occasions he's capable of that.

I remember as a kid, when Viv walked out to bat, you knew if he was in the mood, there was no stopping him. If he got a couple away early, the opposition was in for a long day. Davey has certainly entered that zone.

It's purely a case from here if he can sustain it for another decade like Sir Viv did.

 

[Jimthegreat]

the same morkel and philander that everyone is saying are completely shit? sure. Can't have it both ways like normal aussie cricket fans...

30 Tests, 8 centuries (better than 1 in every 4 Tests) on top of 12 50's (1 in every 2 1/2 Tests). Then there's the average of 46.54. Sounds pretty good doesn't it. Maybe you want to drop him for a player that might average 30.

Best to not say anything. Every time you hit your keyboard you demonstrate a total lack of intelligence. Best not to display that on a public forum.

 

[Slax]

I think a comparison with Sehwag is much better. It is also worth noting that he has spoken to Sehwag on a number of occassions about how to be a better test player.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

Well Dave scored on and off field during the Ashes.He got one through the covers and Candice is knocked up.

If she had to **** him every time he made a fifty, it was inevitable really.

 

[krisholio14]

I think a comparison with Sehwag is much better. It is also worth noting that he has spoken to Sehwag on a number of occassions about how to be a better test player.

Sehwag was the epitome of a flat track bully. Dave Warner is better than that.

 

[Slax]

Sehwag was the epitome of a flat track bully. Dave Warner is better than that.

Obviously you don't attend or watch Boxing Day, best innings I've ever seen on Boxing day when he scored 195. He was an excellent player of spin bowling but struggled against good swing bowling, but that is common for a lot of subcontinent players. It also works in reverse.

So why then do some recent great Australian players Australian batsman fail on the subcontinent?
Ponting & Gilchrist continually failed in India
Hussey's average away from home is almost 20 runs less
But I guess they're just overrated players as well working off your system of judging players.