Draft Expert Davo-27's 2021 u18 Draft Thread

[Zurs]

How did Darcy's mobility and speed look? One knock on him has been his athleticism.

I am not really qualified to tell, but when ruck he seemed to move around the ground fine and impact most contests and take plenty of marks. When at full fwd he just led straight out of the square leaving his opponent behind and taking the mark at full stretch. No one was able to spoil him when he did this. Seemed quick enough? Got one free where his clearly exasperated opponent just held onto his jumper to stop him leading as it was almost guaranteed that with good delivery he was going to mark everything once he got that little break.

 

[Boristown]

I am not really qualified to tell, but when ruck he seemed to move around the ground fine and impact most contests and take plenty of marks. When at full fwd he just led straight out of the square leaving his opponent behind and taking the mark at full stretch. No one was able to spoil him when he did this. Seemed quick enough? Got one free where his clearly exasperated opponent just held onto his jumper to stop him leading as it was almost guaranteed that with good delivery he was going to mark everything once he got that little break.

Cheers, interesting development.

 

[Davo-27]

Gippsland V Northern - comprehensive win by Northern

Gipps: 1 player stood out, a small handful looked decent

Chance Doultree - (19) stood out in a team beaten easily, worked hard and showed his class throughout the game.
Jai Serong - had an ok game, was involved a bit in the 2nd half, tall gangly player, might be a chance to get drafted late because of his size.

a few others played ok McGrath(19), D'Angelo(19), Noblett(19), Walton, Moschetti, Papley(19) and Evans

Northern: dominated most of the game with a few standouts

Ned Long - with 4 goals and some dominant contested marking as well as poss in the centre square he had a great all round game.
Ewan MacPherson - (19) another who played well through mid being tough and adding run through the middle
Joel Trudgeon - (19) another who was tough in the midfield and took a bunch of contested marks in the forward line
Josh Ward - added a lot of run and carry through the middle, good pace and skills in general
Jack Rossimel - had a few good moments as a leading forward, looked very competitive, good leading and marking and good in general play
Darcy Wilmot - intercept marking and run from defence as well as good disposal, he played another solid to good game

a few others who played ok Fitzgerald, Archer, Watson(19), Bowne(19) and De Bolfo(19)

5 players were top tier in this game imo - (very close all 5 players to being the BOG, i had them at 11-10-9-9-9 with the next player at 6 in my points system)
1. Chance Doultree - Gipps
2. Ned Long - North
3. Josh Ward - North
4. Ewan MacPherson - North
5. Joel Trudgeon - North

 

[Davo-27]

im going to try my first attempt at a top 60, the purpose of this is to put out names that i think have a chance to be drafted this year, it will consist of just 18 year olds, so i'll try and leave the 19 year olds out as they get judged differently for a few reasons

1. Jason Horne
2. Nick Daicos (Coll F/S)
3. Matthew Johnson
4. Josh Rachele
5. Matthew Roberts
6. Josh Sinn
7. Josh Fahey
8. Campbell Chesser
9. Jacob Van Rooyen
10. Tyler Sonsie
11. Ned Long
12. Sam Banks
13. Neil Erasmus
14. Toby Conway
15. Jack Williams
16. Finn Callaghan
17. Cooper Hamilton
18. Morgan Ferres
19. Sam Darcy (WB F/S)
20. Ben Hobbs
21. Arlo Draper
22. Joshua Browne
23. Josh Gibcus
24. Josh Goater
25. Lewis Rayson
26. Connor MacDonald
27. Rhett Bazzo
28. Josh Ward
29. Lachlan Rankin
30. Naisiah Wanganeen
31. Yousef Dib (Coll NGA)
32. Isiah Dudley (Adel NGA)
33. Mac Andrew (Melb NGA)
34. Blayne O'Loughlin (Adel NGA)
35. Blake Scott (WB NGA)
36. Scott Beilby (StK NGA)
37. Jase Burgoyne (Port F/S)
38. Max Chipper
39. Hugh Jackson
40. Cooper Murley
41. Darcy Wilmot
42. Hugh Hamilton
43. Cooper Beecken
44. Shay Linke
45. Kade Dittmar
46. Braden Andrews
47. Blake Howes
48. Jed Rule
49. Corey Warner
50. Jackson Archer (NM F/S)
51. Judson Clarke
52. Charlie Molan
53. Jacob Young
54. Kai Lohmann
55. Toby Murray
56. Luca MacNabb
57. Lukas Cooke
58. Jye Amiss
59. Luke Taylor
60. Jack Rossimel

a few more guys i wanted to add like Jai Serong, Jake Soligo, Tom Brown, Max Walton, Luke Nankervis, Jesse Motlop (Frem NGA), Matthew Dnistriansky ect

*im not as familiar with the Northern Academies guys so i may be missing a couple.

 

[Davo-27]

OK well i was at Box Hill City Oval, just so happened Sonsie was playing for the Hawks this weekend, i was watching him closely in the first Half, he got 10 disposals in the first half, kicked a goal from a mark 45m straight in front had 6 clanger/turnovers and 4 good poss(the goal, a good pickup and handball and another couple of short kicks), he didnt seem to have an opponent for most of the half, he just jogged around in midfield and half forward and didnt really man up on anyone, just seemed to look for as many easy HR he could get.

i didnt really keep too much notice of his second half, he did get a htb for a good tackle in the 4th quarter and kicked a good goal after the BHH mids created space for him and fed him on the run through for a goal on the run from 45m straight in front again(centre bounce clearance in the 3rd quarter). i doubt he got 20 disposals, but apparently he got 24 disposals last time i read someone quote stats, which surprised me as he didnt seem very active in the play after half time, but again i stopped watching him closely as i was trying to enjoy the game, i left with 5-10 minutes to go in the last quarter when it started raining heavily, so he couldve racked up a bunch of nothing disposals at the end? im not sure?

for a VFL debut i would say it was ok, he kicked 2 nice goals which were the highlights as well as a handful of clean disposals, plus a nice tackle to get htb in the 4th quarter, theres been 3 stat reports, one said 19 disposals which i think is true, another said 20 disposals and the 3rd says he got 24 disposals, who knows?

 

[PMBangers]

theres been 3 stat reports, one said 19 disposals which i think is true, another said 20 disposals and the 3rd says he got 24 disposals, who knows?

All the stats are available on the VFL/VFLW app

 

[Davo-27]

All the stats are available on the VFL/VFLW app

i was there watching him closely in the first and still watching out for him not as closely for the rest of the game, until i left with 5-10 minutes remaining(during that time only Werribee scored, i believe?), if he got 24 disposals, then call me Rumpelstiltskin.

 

[PMBangers]

i was there watching him closely in the first and still watching out for him not as closely for the rest of the game, until i left with 5-10 minutes remaining, if he got 24 disposals, then call me Rumpelstiltskin.

Ok Rumpelstilskin

 

[Davo-27]

Tyler Sonsie - Box Hill Hawks

Pros -

was able to get a decent amount of poss
kicked 2 very good goals from distance (40m+)
provided options on the outside and on the attack

cons -

lack of contested side of his game
lacks defensive running
physically small and potentially intimidated(which is understandable as a 17/18 yr old, but also potentially a worry)

i thought he did ok in some areas like providing attacking options on the outside and floating forward to kick goals(lovely kick at goal btw), but for an inside mid has a few weaknesses that he might need to work on.

 

[Davo-27]

im going to try my first attempt at a top 60, the purpose of this is to put out names that i think have a chance to be drafted this year, it will consist of just 18 year olds, so i'll try and leave the 19 year olds out as they get judged differently for a few reasons

1. Jason Horne
2. Nick Daicos (Coll F/S)
3. Matthew Johnson
4. Josh Rachele
5. Matthew Roberts
6. Josh Sinn
7. Josh Fahey
8. Campbell Chesser
9. Jacob Van Rooyen
10. Tyler Sonsie
11. Ned Long
12. Sam Banks
13. Neil Erasmus
14. Toby Conway
15. Jack Williams
16. Finn Callaghan
17. Cooper Hamilton
18. Morgan Ferres
19. Sam Darcy (WB F/S)
20. Ben Hobbs
21. Arlo Draper
22. Joshua Browne
23. Josh Gibcus
24. Josh Goater
25. Lewis Rayson
26. Connor MacDonald
27. Rhett Bazzo
28. Josh Ward
29. Lachlan Rankin
30. Naisiah Wanganeen
31. Yousef Dib (Coll NGA)
32. Isiah Dudley (Adel NGA)
33. Mac Andrew (Melb NGA)
34. Blayne O'Loughlin (Adel NGA)
35. Blake Scott (WB NGA)
36. Scott Beilby (StK NGA)
37. Jase Burgoyne (Port F/S)
38. Max Chipper
39. Hugh Jackson
40. Cooper Murley
41. Darcy Wilmot
42. Hugh Hamilton
43. Cooper Beecken
44. Shay Linke
45. Kade Dittmar
46. Braden Andrews
47. Blake Howes
48. Jed Rule
49. Corey Warner
50. Jackson Archer (NM F/S)
51. Judson Clarke
52. Charlie Molan
53. Jacob Young
54. Kai Lohmann
55. Toby Murray
56. Luca MacNabb
57. Lukas Cooke
58. Jye Amiss
59. Luke Taylor
60. Jack Rossimel

a few more guys i wanted to add like Jai Serong, Jake Soligo, Tom Brown, Max Walton, Luke Nankervis, Jesse Motlop (Frem NGA), Matthew Dnistriansky ect

*im not as familiar with the Northern Academies guys so i may be missing a couple.

i want to put all the guys i have liked in some way out there, so i will add onto this list i did around a week ago with others players im aware of and interested in seeing how they go over a range of games.

Jai Serong - Gippsland
Jake Soligo - Eastern
Tom Brown - Murray
Max Walton - Gippsland
Luke Nankervis - Sandringham
Jesse Motlop (Frem NGA)
Matthew Dnistriansky
Austin Harris - GC A
Ned Stevens - NT/GC A
Nathan Kay - Bendigo
Mitchell Hallinan - Bendigo
James Cahill - Dandenong
Miller Bergman - Dandenong
Greg Lord - Eastern
Oscar Morrison - Geel
Joel Fitzgerald - Northern
Henry Brown - Oakleigh
Caleb Lewis - Sandringham
Mitch Owens - Sandringham
Lachlan Brooks - Sandringham
Noah Holmes - Tasmania
Logan Elphinstone - Tasmania
Harry McInnes - Glenlg

 

[Harlequin Dream]

What are your thoughts on these 5 midfield prospects who are around the 185 to 190cm range:

Joel Trudgeon
Charlie McKay
Josh Green
Jai Newcombe
Liam Conway


Are they all draftable? Who would you prefer?

 

[Davo-27]

What are your thoughts on these 5 midfield prospects who are around the 185 to 190cm range:

Joel Trudgeon
Charlie McKay
Josh Green
Jai Newcombe
Liam Conway


Are they all draftable? Who would you prefer?

Joel Trudgeon - is interesting, he is a good mark as a forward and kind of plays the Jarrod Berry style in midfield, although im not sure if he could step up to the level? he is one i like but im not sure of, if that makes sense?, lacks a bit of athleticism

Josh Green - is more of a tall defender, he is Tom Green's brother, i have not seen him play midfield, i've only seen him play KPD. he was a chance of being picked up late last draft, but wasnt

Jai Newcombe - has been one of Box Hill's best mids this year, tough and courageous inside mid, who could possibly make the step up?

Liam Conway - has looked ok, but i dont think he is draftable at this stage, a club might want to give him an opportunity?

Charlie McKay - he has been OK for Sandringham, another i dont think is draftable, but might be given an opportunity?

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Joel Trudgeon - is interesting, he is a good mark as a forward and kind of plays the Jarrod Berry style in midfield, although im not sure if he could step up to the level? he is one i like but im not sure of, if that makes sense?, lacks a bit of athleticism

Josh Green - is more of a tall defender, he is Tom Green's brother, i have not seen him play midfield, i've only seen him play KPD. he was a chance of being picked up late last draft, but wasnt

Jai Newcombe - has been one of Box Hill's best mids this year, tough and courageous inside mid, who could possibly make the step up?

Liam Conway - has looked ok, but i dont think he is draftable at this stage, a club might want to give him an opportunity?

Charlie McKay - he has been OK for Sandringham, another i dont think is draftable, but might be given an opportunity?

Thank you.

I had seen Josh Green and Newcombe this year in the VFL. I was impressed at what they were doing for their age and from a statistical point of view I am much more impressed with a 19 year-old getting 20 to 25 touches in the VFL than 25 ro 30 in the NAB League. But I wanted to know if I was missing information on the impact the NAB leaguers were having.

I have seen about 3 quarters of Josh Green this year (on Kayo), he is playing inside mid and looks surprisingly natural at it.

I liked what I have seen of Newcombe especially by hand, I think his kicking is servicable. How do you view his kicking?

 

[briztoon]

Thank you.

I had seen Josh Green and Newcombe this year in the VFL. I was impressed at what they were doing for their age and from a statistical point of view I am much more impressed with a 19 year-old getting 20 to 25 touches in the VFL than 25 ro 30 in the NAB League. But I wanted to know if I was missing information on the impact the NAB leaguers were having.

I have seen about 3 quarters of Josh Green this year (on Kayo), he is playing inside mid and looks surprisingly natural at it.

I liked what I have seen of Newcombe especially by hand, I think his kicking is servicable. How do you view his kicking?

One of our key draft watchers really likes Josh Green as an inside mid for us this year. Has been performing very well in the VFL.

 

[Davo-27]

Thank you.

I had seen Josh Green and Newcombe this year in the VFL. I was impressed at what they were doing for their age and from a statistical point of view I am much more impressed with a 19 year-old getting 20 to 25 touches in the VFL than 25 ro 30 in the NAB League. But I wanted to know if I was missing information on the impact the NAB leaguers were having.

I have seen about 3 quarters of Josh Green this year (on Kayo), he is playing inside mid and looks surprisingly natural at it.

I liked what I have seen of Newcombe especially by hand, I think his kicking is servicable. How do you view his kicking?

Have not really looked into Newcombes kicking, just noticed he goes in hard with little to no fear, seems to do well from what i have seen, but i have not sat down and tried to find out his strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Davo-27]

One of our key draft watchers really likes Josh Green as an inside mid for us this year. Has been performing very well in the VFL.

I thought he was an outside chance to be picked up last draft, especially with GWS getting a free hit.

 

[TylerDurden]

What are your thoughts on these 5 midfield prospects who are around the 185 to 190cm range:

Joel Trudgeon
Charlie McKay
Josh Green
Jai Newcombe
Liam Conway


Are they all draftable? Who would you prefer?

S Mitchell said Newcombe is the toughest/hardest player at Box Hill by far.

 

[Homer Jay Simpson]

Seen anything of Cody Gilchrist (central districts SA)?
Very tall and takes a good contested mark, worth a late pick?

 

[Davo-27]

Seen anything of Cody Gilchrist (central districts SA)?
Very tall and takes a good contested mark, worth a late pick?

No i have not seen Cody Gilchrist play, theres a already a lot of SA talent i like, i doubt theres too many i missed other than maybe James Willis?

 

[Davo-27]

the mid season draft is 2 weeks away, i can talk about the 19 year olds and what options are out there

from previous draft pools, names such as Tyrone Thorne, Jackson Callow, Luke Partington and Oliver Davis have been talked about as possible pick ups.

Thorne i really liked his Championships form, he was in the WA winning team and looked like a quality little forward, very small and slightly framed, he has since put together an impressive WAFL resume.
Callow has been ok without setting the world on fire, he had a good game the other week and was a strong target at pre-season training with the Hawks although we had Lewis, Kosi and Jeka already as potential fits at this stage and he wasnt tried as a defender during his stay so it wasnt a good fit i guess?
Davis has been solid without starring in many of his Tassie games and now has a chance to impress Adelaide recruiters playing in the SANFL for the next few weeks
Partington has been a good midfielder for awhile now, was on WCE list a few seasons ago and has been top tier in the WAFL and now SANFL for seasons, he might get given a chance this time around

from the NAB League i have liked the look of a few 19 year olds, mainly the 3 rucks and a couple of others who might get drafted or at least looked at, they are Jacob Edwards, Max Heath, Ned Moyle, Chance Doultree

Jacob Edwads has already had a heap of press, he is a flexible ruck in that he can be a tap ruck or a tall forward with a good mark and good movement on the field, also has kicked a few goals this season
Max Heath is more your strongly built ruck man who specialises tap rucking and marking around the ground
Ned Moyle is also a strongly built ruck man who specialises in tap rucking and marking around the ground, he has had a good run of form for Collingwood in the VFL sharing the ruck duties the last 3 weeks
Chance Doultree has been very impressive in the NAB League this season and deserves a look before the draft takes place imo.

 

[Mutineer]

Ollie Davis played 4 games before heading over to Adelaide, 2 Tasmanian State League games where he was his team's best player in both and 2 Nab League games where he was judged the Devils best and 2nd best to Sam Banks in the other. Maybe selling his season a bit short?

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[Davo-27]

Ollie Davis played 4 games before heading over to Adelaide, 2 Tasmanian State League games where he was his team's best player in both and 2 Nab League games where he was judged the Devils best and 2nd best to Sam Banks in the other. Maybe selling his season a bit short?

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Ive seen plenty of Ollie Davis, he is more a quality workhorse mid, he lacks the speed to be a star, i have been a fan of his though for a long time so i dont mean to come off as rude.

 

[Mutineer]

Ive seen plenty of Ollie Davis, he is more a quality workhorse mid, he lacks the speed to be a star, i have been a fan of his though for a long time so i dont mean to come off as rude.

I've seen quite a bit of him too and I pretty much agree with your assessment just thought you were selling his season thus far a tad short. I watched his only SANFL game a fortnight ago and whilst he didn't get a lot of footy he excelled inside the contest with 6 clearances in a team he was obviously unfamiliar with, probably the 1st time he'd met the top up players in the SANFL side was game day.

 

[Davo-27]

A few 19 year olds from the NAB League i think could be a chance to be picked up in the MSD, although it seems there might only be a couple outside of the 3 rucks if they nominate? (Edwards, Heath, Moyle and Doultree are my top 4 from the NAB League)

Luke Cleary - from Sandringham, 189cm half back who i remember from 2019 and has been great so far in 2021, just a reliable defender, classy kid

Cody Raak - 192cm half back, has had a lot of poss and intercept marks from wayward kicks playing mostly loose in defence, im still not sold on him, but has put in the work to be a chance.

Joel Trudgeon - 185cm mid or forw, he plays taller than he is, really tough inside mid, lacks a bit of athleticism though, i have mixed feelings because i like him as a footballer, but im not sure whether clubs will take a chance on him?

Dylan Thomas - 187cm forward, good clever, agile and strong maori forw, kind of plays like Curtis Taylor, lacks a lit athleticism but is tough and knows where the goals are

Eren Soylemez - small forw who has looked good for Sandy this season, bit small at 178cm, but he knows where the goals are

Another couple who look to have improved a bit and could be smokies, Noah Gribble and Jye Menzie.

 

[eth-dog]

A few 19 year olds from the NAB League i think could be a chance to be picked up in the MSD, although it seems there might only be a couple outside of the 3 rucks if they nominate? (Edwards, Heath, Moyle and Doultree are my top 4 from the NAB League)

Luke Cleary - from Sandringham, 189cm half back who i remember from 2019 and has been great so far in 2021, just a reliable defender, classy kid

Cody Raak - 192cm half back, has had a lot of poss and intercept marks from wayward kicks playing mostly loose in defence, im still not sold on him, but has put in the work to be a chance.

Joel Trudgeon - 185cm mid or forw, he plays taller than he is, really tough inside mid, lacks a bit of athleticism though, i have mixed feelings because i like him as a footballer, but im not sure whether clubs will take a chance on him?

Dylan Thomas - 187cm forward, good clever, agile and strong aboriginal forw, kind of plays like Curtis Taylor, lacks a lit athleticism but is tough and knows where the goals are

Eren Soylemez - small forw who has looked good for Sandy this season, bit small at 178cm, but he knows where the goals are

Another couple who look to have improved a bit and could be smokies, Noah Gribble and Jye Menzies.

Thomas isn't Aboriginal. He has a bit of a mauri background.