Draft Expert Davo-27's 2022 u18 Draft Thread

[RanaNaved]

would be much better if BT and James Brayshaw highighted their junior club where they played from Aus Kick, rather than the private school they joined at year 10

Yeah, like anyone gives a **** they went to a private school

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I went to the Caulfield vs Brighton game today, wow what a game. Brighton were 50 pts down until Cam McKenzie turned up his game a few notches. This kid can play! His goal on the 3qtr time siren was all class. He won a heap of stoppages and used the ball really well in the second half. His disposal by hand is elite. Jason Binns for Caulfield had a reasonable game, solid first half. Mitch Szybkowski was one of Caulfields best as well. Nick Watson kicked 3 or 4 but 2 of his goals came from shocking errors by the umps and from memory another was a downfield free kick. When the game was in the balance he just throws his arms up in the air when he gets tackled looking for free kicks he needs to improve this side to his game.
For Brighton aside from McKenzie Jonah Campigli was a reliable performer, he won some clutch contests. Lachie McClusky had some unreal moments, took some nice contested grabs and crucial goals. Little Will Lambert was consistent all day and kicked a couple of clutch goals in the last qtr against a tricky breeze. I really liked Jamie Hope (c) he competed well all day, I can see why he Leeds Brighton. He just gives his all at every contest.

Interested to know what makes McKenzie stand out at that Lower level ( I’ve seen him play well at higher levels )

Was it is endurance and running patterns or his power / size or a combo of both ? Also how did his speed look out of congestion ?

Did he take hard options by foot ? Or just do the basic things well ? Did he hit his targets ? Or blaze away ?

 

[Dewyyyyy]

If MacKenzie is at Hawthorns pick, it's a pretty easy selection imo, unless there's someone who falls, but he's a classy player, good speed and just a damaging forward of centre player, he's tall and moves really well, but the fact he's also a beast at stoppages and just competitive with a really good inside and outside game mix, he shapes as a great pick.

 

[Davo-27]

If MacKenzie is at Hawthorns pick, it's a pretty easy selection imo, unless there's someone who falls, but he's a classy player, good speed and just a damaging forward of centre player, he's tall and moves really well, but the fact he's also a beast at stoppages and just competitive with a really good inside and outside game mix, he shapes as a great pick.

unless one of the better candidates fall to us at 7, i think MacKenzie is a good option, has been fantastic and consistent, has speed away from the contest, uses it well, knows how to share the footy, only queries i have is on goal kicking and winning the hard ball more often, otherwise he could be a top 3-4, we would hope one of the top 6 drifts to our pick to make the decision a bit harder.

 

[Davo-27]

Yeah, like anyone gives a * they went to a private school

i know my nephews got headhunted by private schools because they were good athletes and good footballers, if you do junior athletics and are good players in junior footy those schools come knocking, no matter if you go to a crappy public school ect.

 

[RanaNaved]

i know my nephews got headhunted by private schools because they were good athletes and good footballers, if you do junior athletics and are good players in junior footy those schools come knocking, no matter if you go to a crappy public school ect.

What's that got to do with commentators telling fans which crappy private school a player went to?

 

[Davo-27]

What's that got to do with commentators telling fans which crappy private school a player went to?

because the crappy private school pays for the advertisement of their program through buying the allegiances of said player, its an industry after all and any advantage a youngster can get they will take.

 

[RanaNaved]

because the crappy private school pays for the advertisement of their program through buying the allegiances of said player, its an industry after all and any advantage a youngster can get they will take.

Yeah, I'm sure that's why commentators love mentioning which private schools they go to

 

[pushintheback]

Looking fwd to the big double header at RSEA this Saturday. Oakleigh vs Sandringham and Eastern vs Calder. Some ripping talent across all 4 teams.
I reckon Oakleigh will win comfortably & Eastern should get the W as well.

 

[Davo-27]

i was looking at the next 3 drafts and where the talent is in the nab league from my PoV, so i thought i would show which teams have the top end talent this year and going forward, i expect to uncover more top end talent, but this is where things stand atm.

Oakleigh - Wardlaw, Tsatas, Jefferson, Teal, Drury, Al Davey Jnr, Jayden Davey, Weddle, O'Sullivan, O'Keefe.....Philactides, Badr, Lorenz, K.Brown..... O'Sullivan, Smith

Sandringham - Ashcroft, Sheezel, MacKenzie, Hotton, Clarke..... Roberts, Sanders..... Ashcroft

Eastern - Hayes, Verrell..... Watson, Weatherill, C.Windsor, Nyko..... Smillie, Wilson

Western - 0 ..... Morris, Weeks..... 0

Calder - Penny..... Taha ..... Kako, Hollow, Nguyen

Northern - 0 ..... Caddy ..... McInerney, Kitchell, Johnson

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Gippsland - Humphrey, Konstanty, Burgiel, Schuback, Vickery..... Duursma, A.Reid..... Lindsay

Dandenong - Szybkowski, Hustwaite, Binns..... Frangalas, B.Wilson, Simpson, Andrew ..... 0

GWV - Cadman, Bond..... Lual, Stevens..... Lalor

Murray - George, Hollands, M.Clohesy..... James..... Warburton

Geelong - Clark, Northam, T.Clohesy..... Rudd..... Ivisic

Bendigo - Long, Gillbee..... H.Reid..... Travaglia

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Tasmania - McCallum, Cowan, Campbell..... McKercher, Callinan..... ?

 

[briztoon]

i was looking at the next 3 drafts and where the talent is in the nab league from my PoV, so i thought i would show which teams have the top end talent this year and going forward, i expect to uncover more top end talent, but this is where things stand atm.

Oakleigh - Wardlaw, Tsatas, Jefferson, Teal, Drury, Al Davey Jnr, Jayden Davey, Weddle, O'Sullivan, O'Keefe.....Philactides, Badr, Lorenz, K.Brown..... O'Sullivan, Smith

Sandringham - Ashcroft, Sheezel, MacKenzie, Hotton, Clarke..... Roberts, Sanders..... Ashcroft

Eastern - Hayes, Verrell..... Watson, Weatherill, C.Windsor, Nyko..... Smillie, Wilson

Western - 0 ..... Morris, Weeks..... 0

Calder - Penny..... Taha ..... Kako, Hollow, Nguyen

Northern - 0 ..... Caddy ..... McInerney, Kitchell, Johnson

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Gippsland - Humphrey, Konstanty, Burgiel, Schuback, Vickery..... Duursma, A.Reid..... Lindsay

Dandenong - Szybkowski, Hustwaite, Binns..... Frangalas, B.Wilson, Simpson, Andrew ..... 0

GWV - Cadman, Bond..... Lual, Stevens..... Lalor

Murray - George, Hollands, M.Clohesy..... James..... Warburton

Geelong - Clark, Northam, T.Clohesy..... Rudd..... Ivisic

Bendigo - Long, Gillbee..... H.Reid..... Travaglia

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Tasmania - McCallum, Cowan, Campbell..... McKercher, Callinan..... ?

Wasn’t like half the Vic Metro U17 team last weekend from Western Jets.

 

[Davo-27]

Wasn’t like half the Vic Metro U17 team last weekend from Western Jets.

the other 3 Jets players Moloney, Tsia and Smith i dont think are as high as the other 2 Morris and Weeks

 

[pushintheback]

the other 3 Jets players Moloney, Tsia and Smith i dont think are as high as the other 2 Morris and Weeks

I agree. I have Morris ahead of Caddy by the time the 2023 draft comes around.

 

[Davo-27]

I agree. I have Morris ahead of Caddy by the time the 2023 draft comes around.

Morris is in good form atm, i was tossing up between Morris and Weatherill when i added a couple to my previous lists, i added Weatherill because he is 195cm over Morris who is 192cm, then Morris pops off

 

[Mutineer]

Morris is in good form atm, i was tossing up between Morris and Weatherill when i added a couple to my previous lists, i added Weatherill because he is 195cm over Morris who is 192cm, then Morris pops off

Patrick Weckert starting to get noticed for next year, another that will likely have to decide between footy and cricket.

 

[pushintheback]

Team lists are out for Sandy v Chargers game. Fully stacked teams. Quality bottom agers to compliment the big guns. Sandy - Levi Ashcroft selected. Archie Roberts. No Sanders. What’s happening there. Chargers - Philactides, Badr, Brown. Also keen to see how Bailey MacDonald goes off HB. The rotations in this game are off the charts!

 

[Davo-27]

NAB League

Gippsland, Tasmania and Dandenong get the bye for Wildcard Round

GWV V Northern
Oak v Bendigo
Geel v Western
Eastern V Calder
Sand V Murray

 

[pushintheback]

NAB League

Gippsland, Tasmania and Dandenong get the bye for Wildcard Round

today:
Bendigo V Murray
GWV V Geel

if Murray and GWV win....the wildcard round will look like

GWV V Bendigo
Oak v Northern
Geel v Western
Eastern V Calder
Murray V Sand

am i correct in reading the games are at Ballarat (Saturday) and Wangaratta (Sunday)

 

[Davo-27]

am i correct in reading the games are at Ballarat (Saturday) and Wangaratta (Sunday)

this is what i can find on where they are being played on wildcard round

Coates Talent League NAB League Boys, 2022 Fixture | PlayHQ

View the complete fixture schedule for NAB League Boys by Coates Talent League. Explore upcoming matches and venues, recent results and stats for AFL competitions on PlayHQ.

www.playhq.com

 

[pushintheback]

Sheeeeeeezel was unstoppable. Whether the ball was I50 or up the ground he was almost unstoppable. IMO he will end up being a very good mid. He's pushing his stakes for a top 3 if this form continues.
Tsatsas seems to get in all the right spots. His speed is great and hes ready to go. I know people say he doesnt have a defensive side to his game, but neither does Sheezel or Ashcroft. The only blights on his game is his kicking but an AFL club will tidy that up and Id like to see him hit the scoreboard more.
Ashcroft no more needs to be said about him. Jet!
Davey is very exciting when he gets the ball. His defensive work is actually really good. His disposals by foot were pretty good, however, he tends to burn his teammates a lot. He will need to get better at bringing his teammates into the game.
McKenzie yesterday played in bursts. But I like what i see. When he becomes more consistent throughout quarters he will have a bigger influence on games. Having said this I thought he was really good yesterday, particularly with his clearance work. Big Fan!
Hotton keeps impressing. He is really clean and generally makes good decisions. I really like Hotton. His mid craft was great but he also managed to kick a couple of snags as well.
Teal, considering he has missed a lot of footy I thought he was good. He provided some nice drive out of the D50. His touch wasnt quite there but thats to be expected when u miss so much footy. I can see why clubs like him. His athleticism is great.
Weddle, had some nice moments. I liked his 2 bounce run down the wing, and a couple of strong marks (thats his weapon). When he found himself on Sheezel he was a little uncomfortable with the match up.
Clarke had an opportunistic game. His 2 goals was what u like to see from a small/crafty forward. Taking his opportunity. Thats what separates the good small fwds. He's got some speed, I actually liked the match up when Philactides went to him as they both showed their wheels.
Creighton not sure where people have him listed but I thought he was reasonably good yesterday. To kick 3 goals was a great effort. At times he was on Teal and Weddle so 2 good backs. He hits up well and was strong below his knees. Will be keen to see how his draft plays out.
Jefferson knows how to kick goals. He didnt take a lot of marks however to have 9 disposals and kick 4.1 is a reasonable effort. One may have come from a free (Cant recall) He's the real deal and will do some damage in finals. He's a top 10.
Voulanas had 3 first half goals and was quiet after that. He's quick and his goals were exciting. I love seeing him take the game on like he did yesterday. He's definately had the blinkers on yesterday as he was keen to show the recruiters his speed. His blight is probably the depth in his kicking but a good weights program I feel could lift his game to the next level.
Drury had one of his quieter days. We all know he's a good player and will be on an AFL list in 2023. I suspect the continual transition from school to state to school to NAB is not an easy thing to manage. He kicked a clutch set shot goal. The recruiters would love seeing him take that opportunity.
Bottom Agers
Roberts took a lot of the kick ins so the stats (13D) don't tell the story, but I thought he had a couple of nice moments exiting the D50. He's definitely an outside runner, link player. He had his hands full with Voulanas and Drury.
Ashcroft he didn't have a huge influence on the game but I like his aggression at the ball. He's Will m2. I can see him being an early pick in 2024. His disposal and decision making was sound.
Visentini was soundly beaten against O'Keefe but i like what i saw. He took a real nice grab up fwd and some of his ruck work was elite. He's lightly built as most rucks are but he will be one to watch in 2023.
Philactides was solid. Played his usual HB role using his speed to exit the D50. His kicking and decision making is elite. On a couple of occasions he was under the pump but managed to use his speed and kicking to calm the situation. Definitely a high pick in 2023.
Brown can find the footy, this has been proven week after week now. Melbourne would be loving what they see. His kicking needs a bit of work, and I suspect yesterday his confidence dropped as he started to distribute by hand more. He's quite quick as well. To be a starting mid in Oakleighs team is good sign for the Dees.

 

[Davo-27]

now that most of the ladder and draft picks are set in place, we can do a more solid Phantom Draft, im going to assume North get an end of round 1 priority pick and that Rankine gets traded to Adel for their 1st round pick

--------------------------------------------- Round 1
Pick 1 - Bris (Bid) - Will Ashcroft
Pick 2 - NM - Harry Sheezel
Pick 3 - WCE - George Wardlaw
Pick 4 - GWS - Aaron Cadman
Pick 5 - Ess - Cam MacKenzie
Pick 6 - G.C. - Jedd Busslinger
Pick 7 - Haw - Elijah Tsatas
Pick 8 - G.C. - Matthew Jefferson
Pick 9 - Port - Mattaes Phillipou
Pick 10 - StK - Jhye Clark
Pick 11 - Carl - Isaac Keeler
Pick 12 - WB - Bailey Humphrey
Pick 13 - Rich - Elijah Hewett
Pick 14 - Frem - Brayden George
Pick 15 - Coll - Oliver Hollands
Pick 16 - Syd - Mitch Szybkowski
Pick 17 - Syd - Lewis Hayes
Pick 18 - Geel - Olli Hotton
---------------------------------------------------- PP
Pick 19 - NM (PP) - Anthony Munkara
---------------------------------------------------- Round 2
Pick 20 - Rich - Adam D'Aloia
Pick 21 - WCE - Tom McCallum
Pick 22 - Bris (Bid) - Jaspa Fletcher
Pick 23 - Ess (Bid) - Al Davey Jnr
Pick 24 - GWS - Harry Barnett
Pick 25 - Adel - Henry Hustwaite
Pick 26 - Haw - Jacob Konstanty
Pick 27 - G.C. - Reuben Ginbey
Pick 28 - WCE - Will Dowling
Pick 29 - StK - Lachlan Cowan
Pick 30 - Carl - Josh Weddle

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

now that most of the ladder and draft picks are set in place, we can do a more solid Phantom Draft, im going to assume North get an end of round 1 priority pick and that Rankine gets traded to Adel for their 1st round pick

--------------------------------------------- Round 1
Pick 1 - Bris (Bid) - Will Ashcroft
Pick 2 - NM - Harry Sheezel
Pick 3 - WCE - George Wardlaw
Pick 4 - GWS - Aaron Cadman
Pick 5 - Ess - Cam MacKenzie
Pick 6 - G.C. - Jedd Busslinger
Pick 7 - Haw - Elijah Tsatas
Pick 8 - G.C. - Matthew Jefferson
Pick 9 - Port - Mattaes Phillipou
Pick 10 - StK - Jhye Clark
Pick 11 - Carl - Isaac Keeler
Pick 12 - WB - Bailey Humphrey
Pick 13 - Rich - Elijah Hewett
Pick 14 - Frem - Brayden George
Pick 15 - Coll - Oliver Hollands
Pick 16 - Syd - Mitch Szybkowski
Pick 17 - Syd - Lewis Hayes
Pick 18 - Geel - Olli Hotton
---------------------------------------------------- PP
Pick 19 - NM (PP) - Anthony Munkara
---------------------------------------------------- Round 2
Pick 20 - Rich - Adam D'Aloia
Pick 21 - WCE - Tom McCallum
Pick 22 - Bris (Bid) - Jaspa Fletcher
Pick 23 - Ess (Bid) - Al Davey Jnr
Pick 24 - GWS - Harry Barnett
Pick 25 - Adel - Henry Hustwaite
Pick 26 - Haw - Jacob Konstanty
Pick 27 - G.C. - Reuben Ginbey
Pick 28 - WCE - Will Dowling
Pick 29 - StK - Lachlan Cowan
Pick 30 - Carl - Josh Weddle

Nice work, agree with GC's first pick, but don't think they will take a KPF with Walters tracking well for next years draft. Suspect the second pick will be Hollands.

 

[blueiris]

Nice work, agree with GC's first pick, but don't think they will take a KPF with Walters tracking well for next years draft. Suspect the second pick will be Hollands.

I can see Gold Coast trading for Lions first round pick and Pick Hollands there

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

I can see Gold Coast trading for Lions first round pick and Pick Hollands there

That would seem logical, as long as they think he's still there at that pick. Might also try to move a pick to 2023 as there could be bids on 3 academy players.

 

[danielG]

now that most of the ladder and draft picks are set in place, we can do a more solid Phantom Draft, im going to assume North get an end of round 1 priority pick and that Rankine gets traded to Adel for their 1st round pick

--------------------------------------------- Round 1
Pick 1 - Bris (Bid) - Will Ashcroft
Pick 2 - NM - Harry Sheezel
Pick 3 - WCE - George Wardlaw
Pick 4 - GWS - Aaron Cadman
Pick 5 - Ess - Cam MacKenzie
Pick 6 - G.C. - Jedd Busslinger
Pick 7 - Haw - Elijah Tsatas
Pick 8 - G.C. - Matthew Jefferson
Pick 9 - Port - Mattaes Phillipou
Pick 10 - StK - Jhye Clark
Pick 11 - Carl - Isaac Keeler
Pick 12 - WB - Bailey Humphrey
Pick 13 - Rich - Elijah Hewett
Pick 14 - Frem - Brayden George
Pick 15 - Coll - Oliver Hollands
Pick 16 - Syd - Mitch Szybkowski
Pick 17 - Syd - Lewis Hayes
Pick 18 - Geel - Olli Hotton
---------------------------------------------------- PP
Pick 19 - NM (PP) - Anthony Munkara
---------------------------------------------------- Round 2
Pick 20 - Rich - Adam D'Aloia
Pick 21 - WCE - Tom McCallum
Pick 22 - Bris (Bid) - Jaspa Fletcher
Pick 23 - Ess (Bid) - Al Davey Jnr
Pick 24 - GWS - Harry Barnett
Pick 25 - Adel - Henry Hustwaite
Pick 26 - Haw - Jacob Konstanty
Pick 27 - G.C. - Reuben Ginbey
Pick 28 - WCE - Will Dowling
Pick 29 - StK - Lachlan Cowan
Pick 30 - Carl - Josh Weddle

Davo interested to know, do you rate McKenzie ahead of Tastas or you selected McKenzie on a needs basis first? Think Hawks may end up with McKenzie with Bombers taking Tsatas at 5 but you know a lot more than me so keen to understand your thinking..