Draft Expert Davo-27's 2022 u18 Draft Thread

[pushintheback]

Cal Twomey has suggested Weddle could go as high as top 20. If he has another performance like the WA game I agree, he will go top 20. If not somewhere between 20-30.

 

[PocketRocket08]

rank groupings update:

Elite: Will Ashcroft, George Wardlaw(2)

Top Tier: Harry Sheezel, Isaac Keeler, Jhye Clark, Elijah Tsatas, Elijah Hewett, Aaron Cadman, Mattaes Phillipou, Jedd Busslinger, Cam McKenzie, Matthew Jefferson, Mitch Szybkowski, Adam D'Aloia, Reuben Ginbey, Brayden George, Anthony Munkara. (15)

AFL Qualities: Oliver Hollands, Tom McCallum, Jacob Konstanty, Harry Lemmey, Harry Barnett(more KPD than ruck), Jaspa Fletcher, Al Davey Jnr, Lewis Hayes, Kobe Ryan, Olivier Northam, Callum Verrell, Jed Hagan, Lachlan Cowan, Bailey Humphrey, Luke Teal, Henry Hustwaite, Tom Scully, Darcy Jones, Jason Gillbee, Rye Penny, Charlie Clarke, Caleb Mitchell, Ted Clohesy, Will Dowling, Olli Hotton, Coby Burgiel, Josh Weddle, Shadeau Brain, Jayden Davey (29)

i think the top 17 or so are really strong this year, its a good crop, the 1st round should be filled with talent and i wouldnt be surprised if 1 drifted to the early 2nd round as happens every year.

I’ll eat my Hat if Harry Sheezel isn’t elite. He is a player in the mould of dusty degoey Toby Greene. He is the match winner of this lot. Wardlaw and Ashcroft are bank able mids at AFL especially Ashcroft. Wardlaw needs to build a better tank or will be found out.
Top Tier group looks great. I’d just like to see more of munkara.
AFL qualities group I also think it’s pretty talented. Not the finished product obviously but I think if they put in the work if drafted I believe this draft will be looked back on in a very positive light.
2 years without football has made this group hungry in my opinion.

 

[Davo-27]

I’ll eat my Hat if Harry Sheezel isn’t elite. He is a player in the mould of dusty degoey Toby Greene. He is the match winner of this lot. Wardlaw and Ashcroft are bank able mids at AFL especially Ashcroft. Wardlaw needs to build a better tank or will be found out.
Top Tier group looks great. I’d just like to see more of munkara.
AFL qualities group I also think it’s pretty talented. Not the finished product obviously but I think if they put in the work if drafted I believe this draft will be looked back on in a very positive light.
2 years without football has made this group hungry in my opinion.

i was actually close to putting him in the elite group, he probably should be there, but i just wanted to keep it as a place where Ashcroft 1a and Wardlaw 1b were represented as players who could both go pick 1.

Munkara has shown enough in the pre-season and for West Adel u18 and for AFL Academy for me, i would like to see him play well at the champs, but it didnt happen unfortunately.

 

[vicswan2]

angus Anderson? been consistent all year this year .....and last .........afl qualities

 

[Davo-27]

angus Anderson? been consistent all year this year .....and last .........afl qualities

yea as a 19 yr old he has had a great year, might get picked up or might have to play a year in the sanfl to put his name up for next year? not quite sure what clubs think about him?

 

[Blackhawk42]

Davo-27 Thoughts on how Cam McKenzie and how high his draft range could be?

 

[PocketRocket08]

i was actually close to putting him in the elite group, he probably should be there, but i just wanted to keep it as a place where Ashcroft 1a and Wardlaw 1b were represented as players who could both go pick 1.

Munkara has shown enough in the pre-season and for West Adel u18 and for AFL Academy for me, i would like to see him play well at the champs, but it didnt happen unfortunately.

Oh yeah see your reasoning there. You do very well at this draft analysis. It’s not easy work and will be interesting to see how it unfolds. I got a couple of favourite players that I think get overlooked in your AFL qualities group I believe can push higher up the draft but actually go on and be elite AFL players.

 

[blueiris]

Are the Allies done for the year? Because they were quite competitive

 

[briztoon]

Are the Allies done for the year? Because they were quite competitive

Yup, all done. Finished 1-3.

 

[Davo-27]

Davo-27 Thoughts on how Cam McKenzie and how high his draft range could be?

at a guess his range could be anywhere from 7-15, he has made up for the absence of Wardlaw for Vic Metro and has been a good 2nd for Ashcroft in the midfield, he was a half back last year and looked like a mid draft type, but has really shown his quality in the midfield where he has risen up the draft rankings and is pretty much a certainty to go in the 1st round.

 

[Sobreye]

July Top 50
1. Will Ashcroft
2. George Wardlaw
3. Elijah Hewett
4. Isaac Keeler
5. Harry Sheezel
6. Jhye Clark
7. Elijah Tsatas
8. Aaron Cadman
9. Jedd Busslinger
10. Mattaes Phillipou
11. Matthew Jefferson
12. Cam MacKenzie
13. Mitch Szybkowski
14. Adam D'Aloia
15. Brayden George
16. Anthony Munkara
17. Harry Lemmey
18. Jacob Konstanty
19. Oliver Hollands
20. Olivier Northam
21. Kobe Ryan
22. Tom McCallum
23. Harry Barnett
24. Jackson Broadbent
25. Reuben Ginbey
26. Al Davey Jnr
27. Callum Verrell
28. Jaspa Fletcher
29. Tom Scully
30. Jed Hagan
31. Bailey Humphrey
32. Luke Teal
33. Lachlan Cowan
34. Seth Campbell
35. Caleb Mitchell
36. Rye Penny
37. Ted Clohesy
38. Charlie Clarke
39. Toby McMullin
40. Lewis Hayes
41. Will Dowling
42. James Van Es
43. Henry Hustwaite
44. Olli Hotton
45. Darcy Jones
46. Max Michaelanny
47. Blake Drury
48. Luke Michael
49. Coby Burgiel
50. Jason Gillbee

mentions: Archie Lovelock, Hugh Bond, Lloyd Johnston, Jake Walker, Josh Weddle, Sam Gilbey

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2023

Jack Delean - SA
Will Patton - SA
Tom Wheaton - SA
Ashton Moir - SA
Alex Holt - SA

Daniel Curtin - WA
Koen Sanchez - WA
Tyreise Clark - WA
Riley Hardeman - WA
Mitch Williams - WA
Koltyn Tholstrup - WA

Jed Walter - Allies (GCS)
Jake Rogers - Allies (GCS)
Caiden Cleary - Allies (Syd)
James Lugsdin - Allies (Syd)
Ryley Sanders - Allies (Tas/Sand)
Jack Callinan - Allies (Tas)
Colby McKercher - Allies (Tas)
Beau Nash - Allies (Tas)

Nick Watson - VM/East
Caleb Windsor - VM/East
Cam Nyko - VM/East
Oliver Horlock - VM/East
Riley Witherill - VM/East
Iliro Smit - VM/East
Archie Roberts - VM/Sand
Nate Caddy - VM/North
Rohan McKenzie - VM/North
Charlie Naish - VM/North
Will Green - VM/North
Diesel Moloney - VM/West
Logan Morris - VM/West
Oliver Badr - VM/Oak
Nathan Philactides - VM/Oak
Mahmoud Taha - VM/Cald

Harley Reid - VC/Bend
Harrison Kelly - VC/Bend
Malik Gordon - VC/Bend
Luamon Lual - VC/GWV
Ethan McKercher - VC/GWV
George Stevens - VC/GWV
Joel Freijah - VC/GWV
Archer Reid - VC/Gipps
Zane Duursma - VC/Gipps
Josh Hamilton - VC/Gipps
Michael Rudd - VC/Geel
Tobyn Murray - VC/Geel
Patrick Hughes - VC/Geel
Sam Frangalas - VC/Dand
Kobe Shipp - VC/Dand
Cooper Simpson - VC/Dand
Kade De La Rue - VC/Dand
Billy Wilson - VC/Dand
Darcy Wilson - VC/Murr
Coby James - VC/Murr

Hey Davo do Collingwood take Michael Christian's boy Nicky?

 

[Davo-27]

Hey Davo do Collingwood take Michael Christian's boy Nicky?

he is a fringe player at Sandringham Dragons, so im not sure as only the best or guys with a lot of potential get drafted, Collingwood may think he has potential? or they might wait a year as he is a December birth so he can develop more?, then take him as a 19 year old? but i doubt he gets drafted this year after 2 games in the NAB League.

 

[dkalphy]

July Top 50
1. Will Ashcroft
2. George Wardlaw
3. Elijah Hewett
4. Isaac Keeler
5. Harry Sheezel
6. Jhye Clark
7. Elijah Tsatas
8. Aaron Cadman
9. Jedd Busslinger
10. Mattaes Phillipou
11. Matthew Jefferson
12. Cam MacKenzie
13. Mitch Szybkowski
14. Adam D'Aloia
15. Brayden George
16. Anthony Munkara
17. Harry Lemmey
18. Jacob Konstanty
19. Oliver Hollands
20. Olivier Northam
21. Kobe Ryan
22. Tom McCallum
23. Harry Barnett
24. Jackson Broadbent
25. Reuben Ginbey
26. Al Davey Jnr
27. Callum Verrell
28. Jaspa Fletcher
29. Tom Scully
30. Jed Hagan
31. Bailey Humphrey
32. Luke Teal
33. Lachlan Cowan
34. Seth Campbell
35. Caleb Mitchell
36. Rye Penny
37. Ted Clohesy
38. Charlie Clarke
39. Toby McMullin
40. Lewis Hayes
41. Will Dowling
42. James Van Es
43. Henry Hustwaite
44. Olli Hotton
45. Darcy Jones
46. Max Michaelanny
47. Blake Drury
48. Luke Michael
49. Coby Burgiel
50. Jason Gillbee

mentions: Archie Lovelock, Hugh Bond, Lloyd Johnston, Jake Walker, Josh Weddle, Sam Gilbey

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2023

Jack Delean - SA
Will Patton - SA
Tom Wheaton - SA
Ashton Moir - SA
Alex Holt - SA

Daniel Curtin - WA
Koen Sanchez - WA
Tyreise Clark - WA
Riley Hardeman - WA
Mitch Williams - WA
Koltyn Tholstrup - WA

Jed Walter - Allies (GCS)
Jake Rogers - Allies (GCS)
Caiden Cleary - Allies (Syd)
James Lugsdin - Allies (Syd)
Ryley Sanders - Allies (Tas/Sand)
Jack Callinan - Allies (Tas)
Colby McKercher - Allies (Tas)
Beau Nash - Allies (Tas)

Nick Watson - VM/East
Caleb Windsor - VM/East
Cam Nyko - VM/East
Oliver Horlock - VM/East
Riley Witherill - VM/East
Iliro Smit - VM/East
Archie Roberts - VM/Sand
Nate Caddy - VM/North
Rohan McKenzie - VM/North
Charlie Naish - VM/North
Will Green - VM/North
Diesel Moloney - VM/West
Logan Morris - VM/West
Oliver Badr - VM/Oak
Nathan Philactides - VM/Oak
Mahmoud Taha - VM/Cald

Harley Reid - VC/Bend
Harrison Kelly - VC/Bend
Malik Gordon - VC/Bend
Luamon Lual - VC/GWV
Ethan McKercher - VC/GWV
George Stevens - VC/GWV
Joel Freijah - VC/GWV
Archer Reid - VC/Gipps
Zane Duursma - VC/Gipps
Josh Hamilton - VC/Gipps
Michael Rudd - VC/Geel
Tobyn Murray - VC/Geel
Patrick Hughes - VC/Geel
Sam Frangalas - VC/Dand
Kobe Shipp - VC/Dand
Cooper Simpson - VC/Dand
Kade De La Rue - VC/Dand
Billy Wilson - VC/Dand
Darcy Wilson - VC/Murr
Coby James - VC/Murr

Is Hewitt in the Wardlaw level?

 

[Davo-27]

Is Hewitt in the Wardlaw level?

i think Hewett is in the 5-10 range, i will update the list next month, i think Hewett is similar to Phillipou, highly skilled and a match winner, but can have games where he cruises along imo.

 

[dkalphy]

i think Hewett is in the 5-10 range, i will update the list next month, i think Hewett is similar to Phillipou, highly skilled and a match winner, but can have games where he cruises along imo.

your wce at pick 2, what do you do?

 

[suburb whispers]

your wce at pick 2, what do you do?

Hewitt

 

[rei154]

Opinions of D'Aloia seem to be varying from mid first to end of second- what do you think his pods are?
I was somewhat interested in him with our second if he's around!

 

[Davo-27]

Opinions of D'Aloia seem to be varying from mid first to end of second- what do you think his pods are?
I was somewhat interested in him with our second if he's around!

pros - he wins contested ball(high clearance winner), he is an accumulator, he makes good decisions with ball in hand, he has consistent form at the state level which is a good sign for the next level, he has some ability to run, carry and kick a goal as he did for AFL Academy, does the defensive tackling in midfield.

cons - he is a bit one paced, midfield only.

 

[Davo-27]

your wce at pick 2, what do you do?

depends, if North bid on Ashcroft and take Wardlaw, i guess i would take Sheezel, but if he is too much of a go home factor i might take a Keeler OR Cadman to replace Kennedy/Darling as your future KPF, Hewett is an option too.

 

[Davo-27]

my top 30 from the division 1 sides (u16 2022)

VM - Josh Smillie, Jagga Smith, Levi Ashcroft, Lucas McInerney, Luke Wilson, Ty Kitchell, Zak Johnson, Isaac Kako (8)
VC - Finn O'Sullivan, Sam Lalor, Xavier Lindsay, Xavier Ivisic, Tobie Travaglia (5)
WA - Otis Harvey, Deian Roberts, Chayse Martinson, Hugh Boxshall, Malakai Champion, Harry Jones (6)
SA - Lucas Camporeale, Phoenix Hargrave, Benny Barrett, Sid Draper, Tyler Welsh, Jacob Newton, Ned Atkinson, Louie Montgomery (8)

underager - Dyson Sharp(SA)
overagers - Will McCabe(SA), Xavier Walsh(WA)

SA - 2-1(won on most goals?)
VM - 2-1
WA - 2-1
VC - 0-3

 

[Davo-27]

Champs Results so far

Vic Metro 3 - 0
Vic Country 3 - 0
South Aust 1 - 2
Allies 1 - 3
West Aust 0 - 3

 

[rei154]

my top 30 from the division 1 sides

VC - Finn O'Sullivan, Sam Lalor, Xavier Lindsay, Xavier Ivisic, Tobie Travaglia (5)

Hotel? Travaglia

 

[Davo-27]

VM V SA (111-38)

rainy in patches as well as sunny in patches, but overall windy and cold winters day, Vic Metro dominated a helpless SA


Vic Metro:
Will Ashcroft - played the conditions well, adapted to wet footy by gaining meterage and kicked a lovely goal when it was sunny around his body after a good run in the forward line
Olli Hotton - he had his own personal cheer squad at the game which was kinda funny, but it helped him have a great performance, kicked 3 goals and ran all day up and down that wing
Cam MacKenzie - another really good performance, had some good penetration on his kicking and was great again for Vic Metro
Blake Drury - this guy really lifts for the occasion, plays half forward and can play part time midfield, kicked 2 goals
Darcy Edmends - probably the best game i have seen him play, he has been underwhelming last yr and this yr, but this game he really had a lot of space thanks to the wet weather and really took advantage of that with good handling in the conditions
Lewis Hayes - what a great performance from the intercepting KPD, he was massive today and didnt allow any of the SA talls to influence the game at all

others who played well: Watson(3 gls), Philactides, Sheezel, Hempel, Verrell, Caddy(3 gls), Weddle, Jefferson(3 gls), Petric


Sth Aust:
Adam D'Aloia - again played a great game mostly in midfield, feeding runners and team mates clearances all game, kicked the first goal of the game too
Will Dowling - had an industrious day trying to gain meterage for SA, just lacked team mates up the field to fight for the ball
Mattaes Phillipou - started strong in the first before injury slowed him down a bit, still had a good game
Jakob Ryan - had a strong game off of half back, good run, carry and kicking out of defence

others who played well: Sadler, K.Ryan, Holt, Walker, Walls, Lovelock

 

[Davo-27]

VC - WA (83-40)

VC:
Oliver Hollands - best on ground, had a fantastic game providing a lot of drive from midfield
Mitch Szybkowski - a lot of hard work on the inside feeding runners
Jhye Clark - not his best game, but still very influential and his kicking skills helped VC keep momentum in the wet
Harley Reid - another dominant display from defence, when he isnt intercept marking he is cutting teams apart with his smart disposal and strong attack on the ball and man, early favourite for pick 1 next year.
Aaron Cadman - kicked 3.3 (in 3 games i believe he is 7.7) had a mark on the goal line where he didnt know if it was a mark and played on then missed the lot and it went OOB.

others who had good games: Binns, Long, Clohesy, Murdoch, Hustwaite, Bond, Northam, Burgiel

WA:
Koen Sanchez - has been injured for most of the year and this was a great comeback game, another top end player for 2023
Elijah Hewett - he tried all game, got tackled nearly everytime he went near the ball, much better performance than the Allies game
Koltyn Tholstrup - again another strong performance from the quality 2023 forw/mid
Reuben Ginbey - was strong in the wet conditions again providing a lot of link up play for the team
Rohan MacNeill - intercepting and generally playing well in defence for the most part

others who had good games: Edwards, Baker

 

[Davo-27]

update Top 40

i think this is a good group of players, 1 surprise player was Brandon Leary a 19 year old from the Allies/Tas who looked very sharp as a small forward kicking goals, very quick and skillful, a player who came from nowhere also from the Allies and i believe a Bris A product was Shadeau Brain, a player who has risen up the rankings recently is Olli Hotton, a few under performers have dropped a little, mainly Lemmey and Scully, McKenzie has broken into the top 10 at the expense of Elijah Hewett, McCallum and Hayes have broken into my top 20.

1. Will Ashcroft
2. George Wardlaw
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3. Harry Sheezel
4. Jhye Clark
5. Elijah Tsatas
6. Aaron Cadman
7. Isaac Keeler
8. Jedd Busslinger
9. Cam McKenzie
10. Mattaes Phillipou
11. Elijah Hewett
12. Matthew Jefferson
13. Mitch Szybkowski
14. Reuben Ginbey
15. Brayden George
16. Anthony Munkara
17. Oliver Hollands
18. Tom McCallum
19. Lewis Hayes
20. Adam D'Aloia
21. Jaspa Fletcher
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22. Jed Hagan
23. Luke Teal
24. Olli Hotton
25. Bailey Humphrey
26. Henry Hustwaite
27. Jacob Konstanty
28. Harry Barnett
29. Olivier Northam
30. Blake Drury
31. Al Davey Jnr
32. Shaeu Brain
33. Callum Verrell
34. Thomas Scully
35. Harry Lemmey
36. Kobe Ryan
37. Rye Penny
38. Josh Weddle
39. Darcy Jones
40. Brandon Leary (19 yr old)

plus another approx 20 more
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