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The first 2 sections of VoG were no different either, except you had 2 oracles instead of 1.
Like hard mode in VoG most of the changes are in regards to the final boss.
From what I've read the changes start at the Shrieker run (with 3 and they respawn if you take too long)

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I think I just finished the "story" game. Some sort of cinematic played. When it's such a weak story an achievement to let me know I'm done what have at least been nice Bungie
So, I'm level 25 and I have been since, like, August or October, and I appear to be going nowhere. Do I need to start raiding to get better gear or do I have to keep grinding for rep to get gear with light in it to boodt me to 26?
I think I just finished the "story" game. Some sort of cinematic played. When it's such a weak story an achievement to let me know I'm done what have at least been nice Bungie
So, I'm level 25 and I have been since, like, August or October, and I appear to be going nowhere. Do I need to start raiding to get better gear or do I have to keep grinding for rep to get gear with light in it to boost me to 26?
Your best bet is to grind for the level 31 gear from Vangard/Crucible vendors. that will raise your level really quickly coupled with an Exotic from Xur.
Then enter raids for better weapons.
Looks like I will need to get levelling my Suros (partially levelled haven't actually upgraded anything yet though) and Red Death.Great I don't have Suros, Red Death or an upgraded mask of the third man.
Looks like I'll be needing a hand if I'm on knight duty, yellow knights & a yellow wizard replacing the bridge knight.
Sounds intense! What's the deal with enrage at 10%? Surely it'd be nearly impossible after that.
Your best bet is to grind for the level 31 gear from Vangard/Crucible vendors. that will raise your level really quickly coupled with an Exotic from Xur.
Then enter raids for better weapons.
Thanks guys. Will get on it.Run bounties to get your Vanguard reputation up to level 2 (needed to buy legendary armour) and run the strike playlist to earn Vanguard marks. Then buy legendary armour from your vanguard guy.
Also as sledge said above try to get some exotic armour from Xur.
I'd recommend initially buying legendary chest, boots and gloves (because they're cheaper than a helmet) and trying to get a decent exotic helmet from Xur (earn/save your strange coins).
Which console are you on?

Just higher levelled enemies.... yawn.
I cheesed the second section yes. That first section is just bad level design that I and many others took advantage of, just like hiding in a room killing Phogoth.Of course its going to be boring if you're cheesing the first two sections still...
It will be so much more intense doing that first section properly now. Can't wait.
No, the first section you did it cheesy. You managed to lose the thralls and knights for half of it.I cheesed the second section yes. That first section is just bad level design that I and many others took advantage of, just like hiding in a room killing Phogoth.
I cheesed the second section yes. That first section is just bad level design that I and many others took advantage of, just like hiding in a room killing Phogoth.
Surely it's for the loot. And being kissed on the dick by RNG cheesing said loot.You and many others then can't yawn at a higher level raid when your still just looking for shortcuts. The raid is about challenging yourself, your teammates, and having fun in the process. I think people forget that.
Again bad level design.No, the first section you did it cheesy. You managed to lose the thralls and knights for half of it.
Phogoth... intentionally designed that way due to the shreiker in the room.
It was not intended from the devs, hence it is a bug. You abusing that bug is what cheesing is.Again bad level design.
How to fix: Make thralls spawn wherever the players are forcing you to get a team together to survive.
You and many others then can't yawn at a higher level raid when your still just looking for shortcuts. The raid is about challenging yourself, your teammates, and having fun in the process. I think people forget that.

It is fun, when I play Vault of Glass. Maybe it's because I don't enjoy the new raid as much as the old one so I couldn't give two shits about doing it legit over "cheese" maybe it's because you can go through a whole raid and only get Energy or Shards or maybe people enjoy playing the game a different way to others![]()
Most of you guys are on reddit but did you see the guys keill crota in 3min 40sec on HM

Most of you guys are on reddit but did you see the guys keill crota in 3min 40sec on HM