Review Do we need a new coach? Part 2

[Ancient Tiger]

pre-season training hasn't even begun and some are into the coach.

When the ONLY reason he is still coach is because they gave him a 2 year extension, he will have to withstand a lot more than a few posters on an internet footy forum being critical, to survive.

 

[exceptional design]

Yeah look, there are 17 other quality sides out there and 2017 will be our toughest challenge yet......

Such a Quality post!

 

[SunshineBoy]

pre-season training hasn't even begun and some are into the coach.

Another alias

 

[SunshineBoy]

Is this thread still open?

 

[exceptional design]

Is this thread still open?

Estimated closure date for this thread or later versions is probably around May 2017.
I look forward to renewed activity from about Feb 2017.

 

[I Rock]

Is this thread still open?

Just keep pictures to a minimum.






In other news, the answer is still yes.

 

[tigertigertiger]

People forget just how well he turned this team around, happy to see what he does in 2017 and 2018

 

[Ancient Tiger]

People forget just how well he turned this team around, happy to see what he does in 2017 and 2018

Well considering he had Cotchin, Martin, Deledio and Riewoldt in their primes and Leppa improved Rance to be one of the best players in the comp, the work had already been done. Name more than 6 players recruited since Hardwick became coach that have become A graders.

 

[CoggaRules]

People forget just how well he turned this team around, happy to see what he does in 2017 and 2018

the problem is we forgot to stop and kept turning to where we started from...

 

[Sassafras]

Well considering he had Cotchin, Martin, Deledio and Riewoldt in their primes and Leppa improved Rance to be one of the best players in the comp, the work had already been done. Name more than 6 players recruited since Hardwick became coach that have become A graders.

Name 1?

 

[Ancient Tiger]

Name 1?

I was working down to that!

 

[Sassafras]

I was working down to that!

Dustin Martin was TW's last year, so I guess that could be included.

 

[tigertigertiger]

Well considering he had Cotchin, Martin, Deledio and Riewoldt in their primes and Leppa improved Rance to be one of the best players in the comp, the work had already been done. Name more than 6 players recruited since Hardwick became coach that have become A graders.

Those players you mentioned flourished under hardwick, mainly cotchin martin and riewoldt. Deledio was born an A grader so not included. We've been too high up the ladder for A graders for a while, he's not the recruiter he's the coach. I think both Ellis's are more than capable of being above B graders, next two years will show, prestia and caddy well they can definitely be A graders too lets see how they go under hardwick in 2017. Rance while you can still credit leppa, became who he is under hardwicks reign. Just look at the results under hardwick compared to our results since Frawley. Clubs do climb, go down a bit (we had stars injured, depleted availability in 2016 for a duration that would have damaged any team), before rising again and rising further.

Actually look at where Hardwick has taken us since Robert Walls, Geischan has a higher percentage of wins but from a very small number of games as coach. None of geish, frawley, wallace or rawlings(don't know why i included him) took over the club from such a low point as what hardwick did.

Credit where it is due, it takes time. Next two years will be very telling and i'm quietly confident of another rise with hardwick!

 

[Ancient Tiger]

Those players you mentioned flourished under hardwick, mainly cotchin martin and riewoldt. Deledio was born an A grader so not included. We've been too high up the ladder for A graders for a while, he's not the recruiter he's the coach. I think both Ellis's are more than capable of being above B graders, next two years will show, prestia and caddy well they can definitely be A graders too lets see how they go under hardwick in 2017. Rance while you can still credit leppa, became who he is under hardwicks reign. Just look at the results under hardwick compared to our results since Frawley. Clubs do climb, go down a bit (we had stars injured, depleted availability in 2016 for a duration that would have damaged any team), before rising again and rising further.

Actually look at where Hardwick has taken us since Robert Walls, Geischan has a higher percentage of wins but from a very small number of games as coach. None of geish, frawley, wallace or rawlings(don't know why i included him) took over the club from such a low point as what hardwick did.

Credit where it is due, it takes time. Next two years will be very telling and i'm quietly confident of another rise with hardwick!

He holds the record for the most games coached without winning a solitary final. He has coached 7 years and he is going into his 8th. Some of us are old and don't have 20 years to waste. How long do you think is reasonable for a coach to have to show if he can get you a tilt at the flag (i.e. be a top 4 side)?

 

[SunshineBoy]

He holds the record for the most games coached without winning a solitary final. He has coached 7 years and he is going into his 8th. Some of us are old and don't have 20 years to waste. How long do you think is reasonable for a coach to have to show if he can get you a tilt at the flag (i.e. be a top 4 side)?

26 years

 

[Sassafras]

26 years

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[SunshineBoy]

Given all the players at Chelsea loved mourinho last year their words, they are burning it up under a new coach, just saying

 

[Sassafras]

Given all the players at Chelsea loved mourinho last year their words, they are burning it up under a new coach, just saying

Maureen who?

 

[SunshineBoy]

Maureen who?

Maureen Jose the Portuguese sheila

 

[Sassafras]

Maureen Jose the Portuguese sheila

You mean that dud at Man U?

 

[SunshineBoy]

You mean that dud at Man U?

That's the one

 

[tigertigertiger]

He holds the record for the most games coached without winning a solitary final. He has coached 7 years and he is going into his 8th. Some of us are old and don't have 20 years to waste. How long do you think is reasonable for a coach to have to show if he can get you a tilt at the flag (i.e. be a top 4 side)?

Don't worry, it's not going to be 20 years. Chill pill, feet up, enjoy the ride

 

[TheProwler]

Is this thread still open?

Why would it close?

 

[Sassafras]

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Credit where it is due, it takes time. Next two years will be very telling and i'm quietly confident of another rise with hardwick!

Oh boy! Another bottom half of the 8 finish with no finals wins. Can't wait.

 

[Sassafras]

Those players you mentioned flourished under hardwick, mainly cotchin martin and riewoldt. Deledio was born an A grader so not included. We've been too high up the ladder for A graders for a while, he's not the recruiter he's the coach. I think both Ellis's are more than capable of being above B graders, next two years will show, prestia and caddy well they can definitely be A graders too lets see how they go under hardwick in 2017. Rance while you can still credit leppa, became who he is under hardwicks reign. Just look at the results under hardwick compared to our results since Frawley. Clubs do climb, go down a bit (we had stars injured, depleted availability in 2016 for a duration that would have damaged any team), before rising again and rising further.

Actually look at where Hardwick has taken us since Robert Walls, Geischan has a higher percentage of wins but from a very small number of games as coach. None of geish, frawley, wallace or rawlings(don't know why i included him) took over the club from such a low point as what hardwick did.
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