No Oppo Supporters Do we need a new coach?

[Lsta062]

For the second time, no

I don't think the full reset, delist, and rebuild is what we need, and sacking dimma will trigger it

I think that if you replace Hardwick with a good coach that the players are happy to play for, I don't think we'll go in full reset mode because that coach will recognise that there is still a lot to work with in this list

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I think that if you replace Hardwick with a good coach that the players are happy to play for, I don't think we'll go in full reset mode because that coach will recognise that there is still a lot to work with in this list

we dont have a list for a ross lyon parachute job, so that means any new coach will want a reset - 35 odd trades and delists over the next 2-3 years, and a full rebuild. no new coach will risk their career on a short term band aid job

 

[fargothegreat]

I don't think we can accept three years of stagnation and a fourth year going backwards.

This team hasn't improved since 2013, and there is no excuse that can make that acceptable.

If we don't win a final this year, then Hardwick must go for the sake of not accepting mediocrity. And the reality is that we've got ourselves into a position where one more loss means we're not even able to make finals, let alone win one.

We need to get this list back on the upward curve, and we need to do it fast because players like Deledio and even Riewoldt aren't getting any younger.

 

[Lsta062]

we dont have a list for a ross lyon parachute job, so that means any new coach will want a reset - 35 odd trades and delists over the next 2-3 years, and a full rebuild. no new coach will risk their career on a short term band aid job

Well, true. I guess I don't mind if it has to come down to a reset if that is what we need. This current regime doesn't look like it'll go much further than it did.

 

[Groupie_]

For the second time, no

I don't think the full reset, delist, and rebuild is what we need, and sacking dimma will trigger it

no it wont

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Well, true. I guess I don't mind if it has to come down to a reset if that is what we need. This current regime doesn't look like it'll go much further than it did.

dont get me wrong, when its time to do that, its time to do that

I dont think our list is a total wash however, BUT we have massive issues with development and line coaching

 

[TigerImposter]

Can we be certain that a rebuild will start after 7 years because we were told by Dan that the fans couldn't wait eight years but are currently taking 2 steps back?
Times almost up and I haven't got any faith in this lot .

 

[Drofder]

After 11 attempts, I'm sure Francis Jackson will have a break out draft in 2016.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

After 11 attempts, I'm sure Francis Jackson will have a break out draft in 2016.

shouldnt have to break out should be pushed out .

 

[Achilles Heel]

We have the best football department going around, Dimma guarantees it

 

[theflea]

and his team got unidentified blue drinks supplied by Weapon

Bomber should not be allowed to ever officially work with any aussie rules club again, at any level (same with all the officials with an involvement in that program at EFC)

Apart from the fact they played worse under him than Hird.

 

[theflea]

I know that this is a 'No Opposition Supporters' thread, so I don't want to intrude. However with my list, I figured I will offer a quick opinion.

- The AFL spruiked the Lv4 coaching accreditation but noone is sure if it'll actually be enforced. If you have a raft of senior coaches be removed at the same time, there may not be the candidates. Sure, some will be accredited but that doesn't mean they're good.
- The one that I did completely miss is Knights.
- The interesting part of the list is that with Bolton's appointment the only Lv4 accredited coach at Hawthorn is Ratten. Adem Yze is probably next in line but isn't in the program yet.
- If you asked me to pick a name, I would say Caracella. Played under Sheedy, Matthews and Malthouse; coached under Malthouse, Thompson and CScott. Couldn't ask for a better pedigree.

I think heard that you can go to the AFL for a permit for a non L4 coach approval.

 

[theflea]

How is that defending the indefensible? The bolded is basically conceding the club failed full stop

He also never gave the injury excuse either.

 

[Tiger_4_Life]

My gut says bomber would be amazing but my brain says it'd be a disaster.....

Stuart dew? McCartney get another crack? Or do we honor the contract and put senior senior senior assistants all around dimma?

 

[BF Tiger]

I'm wondering when players will start to walk. If DH has lost them but the club guarantees his position then I'd expect more than one to request a trade out of the club regardless of contract status.

 

[Ciderhound]

My gut says bomber would be amazing but my brain says it'd be a disaster.....

Stuart dew? McCartney get another crack? Or do we honor the contract and put senior senior senior assistants all around dimma?

I wouldn't mind Stuart Dew TBH.

 

[Istanbul Roo]

I wouldn't mind Stuart Dew TBH.

Would you consider Crocker from Norf? Older, experienced coach, loved by the players, and as steady as they come. Hinkley, Richardson type.

 

[Ciderhound]

Had a soft spot for him as a player and anything is better than dimma ATM. Considered.

 

[TigerImposter]

Crocker haha just bc he out coached DH it doesn't make him a candidate. The guy is another yes man and riding off Scott's hard work . I'd implement my parrot before him.

 

[Achilles Heel]

Crocker haha just bc he out coached DH it doesn't make him a candidate. The guy is another yes man and riding off Scott's hard work . I'd implement my parrot before him.

Wasn't Crocker with us for a while

 

[TigerImposter]

Wasn't Crocker with us for a while

Yep I remember seeing his dial at city oval, but being so long ago I cannot remember the exact details.
He's a subdued sort of a bloke. A bit like an obedient Labrador
Cannot see how he would motivate and take our list anywhere.
Another yes man.

 

[Tiges1229]

I didn't like how Dimma said on radio today that he thought game was over at 1/4 time . Not good

 

[Tiger_4_Life]

Would you consider Crocker from Norf? Older, experienced coach, loved by the players, and as steady as they come. Hinkley, Richardson type.

As long as he brings his soup kitchen Tuesdays with him then he's got the job

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Apart from the fact they played worse under him than Hird.

I dont care how they performed, the guy was a key player in the PED program of at least one club - I want him no where near ours

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Yep I remember seeing his dial at city oval, but being so long ago I cannot remember the exact details.
He's a subdued sort of a bloke. A bit like an obedient Labrador
Cannot see how he would motivate and take our list anywhere.
Another yes man.

so a coach has to be obnoxious and in your face to be successful?

I think he would be pretty intense if his teams playing badly.