Does the U.S. Care?

[Davo75]

Will the United States have similar compassion for Australians and other victims of the Bali tragedy? As we were supposed to have for them?

mmmmm

What do you think?

 

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

Only if it is in their best interests.

If not, I wouldn't think so.

 

[jim boy]

Originally posted by Davo75
Will the United States have similar compassion for Australians and other victims of the Bali tragedy? As we were supposed to have for them?

mmmmm

What do you think?

It's probably a good thing if the yanks weren't to give a rats arse. If we were attacked because the only way to get at the US is by attacking us, and yet the US didn't care, then that would mean the attack was ultimately futile and that it would be pointless attacking us again.

 

[Watto]

In the George Bush Interview(judging by his facial expression and body language), he didn't look very inetrested, it came across as if he was only doing it because he had to or something, but I guess you never know. He probably did though if its something like this!

 

[dr nick]

i also think that what happened in the US was a much bigger event, so dont go expecting them to make as big a fuss as we did over 11/9. americans would feel fairly detatched from this incident, id say the sniper is getting more headlines over there.

 

[mandy]

Originally posted by NICK THE PIE MAN
Only if it is in their best interests.

If not, I wouldn't think so.

Too true.



US press ignores Australia's pain
October 15 2002

The British press has dubbed the Bali bombings Australia's own September 11.

But in the US, Australia is hardly rating a mention.

One report in the Washington Post about the twin night club blasts at Kuta Beach states: "Many of the victims were from Australia, south of Indonesia".

But readers of the Miami Herald online would be in the dark about Australia's death toll now believed to be the majority of the 183 confirmed dead.

The online paper refers to two Americans killed and three injured in the blast.

As for the rest: "Most of the dead are foreigners," the article stated.

Australia is mentioned only in a reference to the packed night club where most of the victims were killed.

"The Sari Club ... was a popular nightspot for the 20-something sun, sand and surf set, especially from nearby Australia," the report said.

Meanwhile in Britain, Australia's loss of life has totally dominated headlines.

"Hardly a town in the massive country was untouched by the horror - the nation's own 9/11," The Sun reported.

The Times said: "Australia was robbed of its innocence" with the death of "scores of citizens" ... "Australia's worst loss of life outside wartime".

According to the Guardian Unlimited, another online paper, it was "Australia's blackest day since World War II".

An analyst at the BBC online said "the Bali bombing is fast emerging as the biggest single tragedy in Australia's post war history".

"Australia is a country that has been blessedly free from terrorist attacks," the news site said.

"But there has never been anything on this scale and no-one would have believed that so many Australians could be targeted in one go.

"That has now changed - and the Australian public are now aware that they are equally vulnerable to violent, unexpected tragedy."

 

[Davo75]

Arse Holes!!!!!!

 

[Watto]

Originally posted by mandy5


Too true.



US press ignores Australia's pain
October 15 2002

The British press has dubbed the Bali bombings Australia's own September 11.

But in the US, Australia is hardly rating a mention.

One report in the Washington Post about the twin night club blasts at Kuta Beach states: "Many of the victims were from Australia, south of Indonesia".

But readers of the Miami Herald online would be in the dark about Australia's death toll now believed to be the majority of the 183 confirmed dead.

The online paper refers to two Americans killed and three injured in the blast.

As for the rest: "Most of the dead are foreigners," the article stated.

Australia is mentioned only in a reference to the packed night club where most of the victims were killed.

"The Sari Club ... was a popular nightspot for the 20-something sun, sand and surf set, especially from nearby Australia," the report said.

Meanwhile in Britain, Australia's loss of life has totally dominated headlines.

"Hardly a town in the massive country was untouched by the horror - the nation's own 9/11," The Sun reported.

The Times said: "Australia was robbed of its innocence" with the death of "scores of citizens" ... "Australia's worst loss of life outside wartime".

According to the Guardian Unlimited, another online paper, it was "Australia's blackest day since World War II".

An analyst at the BBC online said "the Bali bombing is fast emerging as the biggest single tragedy in Australia's post war history".

"Australia is a country that has been blessedly free from terrorist attacks," the news site said.

"But there has never been anything on this scale and no-one would have believed that so many Australians could be targeted in one go.

"That has now changed - and the Australian public are now aware that they are equally vulnerable to violent, unexpected tragedy."

Don't pay much attention to anything outside the country i'd imagine.

 

[powergirlluv17]

Basically i think that the U.S i wouldn't say really care, they just aren't showing that much sympathy towards Australia, compared to what sympathy we always give them during their hard times, but when we go through hard times, they don't ever seem to offer much support for us, it's like they take, but don't 'give', and they always except australia to crawl to their knees, i'm a bit ****ed off with the american government at the moment actually

 

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

Australia could be wiped out completely by a Nuclear Bomb and you wouldn't hear about it in the US for about 2 weeks and even then, it would be a small blurb on page 28 of 'USA Today' stating that 4 American tourists were among the 23 million dead.

 

[fabulousphil]

Originally posted by Davo75
Will the United States have similar compassion for Australians and other victims of the Bali tragedy? As we were supposed to have for them?

mmmmm

Probably not, i think the general impression of Americans is that they are a bit inward looking and lacking in geographical skills. Put simply if it doesnt happen in America or to America it doesnt rate.

I have met quite a few seppos and they seem decent enough people but i dont think they are worldly aware as Australians are.

 

[Watto]

Originally posted by NICK THE PIE MAN
Australia could be wiped out completely by a Nuclear Bomb and you wouldn't hear about it in the US for about 2 weeks and even then, it would be a small blurb on page 28 of 'USA Today' stating that 4 American tourists were among the 23 million dead.

Probably not to that extent, but it's probably because they don't care about anything outside their country. The media release that another poster did before is evidence of that. Thats the reason a lot of them wouldn't care about what happened in Bali. What I mean is when it dosen't concern an american.

 

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

Originally posted by Watto


Probably not to that extent, but it's probably because they don't care about anything outside their country. The media release that another poster did before is evidence of that. Thats the reason a lot of them wouldn't care about what happened in Bali. What I mean is when it dosen't concern an american.

Yeah I was obviously over-exaggerating to add effect but its' true that if its not their country, it doesn't rate.

 

[dr nick]

well my dad is in germany and he said it is headlines.

reading that article about the americans... 2 dead, the rest are foreigners... is really pathetic, like we are a lower life-form.

australia, south of indonesia?? yeah like that would help them?? how the frigg are they gonna know where indonesia is if they dont know aust??

my parents went to the US 3 years ago, and in country towns, they wouldnt have a clue where australia is. they just had to say we are from "down south" and even then they thought that meant texas .

they also could not comprehend the fact that we have winter when we have summer. yeah.. like we are aliens.

 

[Sydneyfan]

The US public may not care (or more likely know much) about the attack but the US Government most definitely care, they fear another attack there!

It's a bit harsh to dump too much on the Americans though, I've read several posts on newsgroups and message boards today by Americans offering their condolences. It's their media that don't seem to care, they're too interested in that sniper.

As for the British, we in Australia dump on them a bit but when hard times hit, they always offer condolences or lend support.

 

[Ghostwriter]

If you read the Australian today you would have read the letters page and there were quite a few letters from Americans expressing sympathy, none from Iraq though.

 

[Mooster7]

Most of the people I know are shocked and furious over the bombing in Bali. Granted we do have our share of citizens who think Bali is a health club and gymn.

Americans tend to like Australians while at the same time we find Canadians and Englanders annoying.

The policy of most US newspapers is to write in a style understandable to someone with a Grade 6 education. The TV newsies aren't any better. If they've made some stupid observations about the Bali job, I'm not surprised. I've been a part of several local news stories, and what was subsequently reported in the papers and TV didn't resemble the reality of the event.

I don't know what W. Bush's take is. I didn't vote for him, and he always strikes me as an idiot. They say he is a sharp guy who is entirely incapable of conveying that through the media. Florida got the president they deserved IMO. The rest of us are marking the calendar.

You have my deepest sympathies for the attack in Bali. I've been following the story more closely than our sniper out in the DC area as a matter of fact. I'm full on outraged. I'm also willing to take any of you on with a geography comp. But yes, we have a good share of dumbasses in our population eating good food and wasting good oxygen. Someone ****es me off everytime I walk out the door their stupidity. Peace and my thoughts to Bali vicitims and their families - friends.

Mooster

 

[dr nick]

youre a special one mooster, thanks for taking the time to understand world affairs. refreshing to hear an american talk this way

 

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

Cheers Mooster

 

[Ghostwriter]

thanks for that Mooster i have been checking out the chat boards around here and it seems a favourite pastime to blame the Americans for all the worlds problems. my personal opinion for what it is worth, the Bali bombs will be the turning point in the war on terror. the French owe us big time for WW2 and they will fall in behind the US now as will the Germans. Australia has built up huge credibility in SE Asia and now the nations of China Malaysia and India will stand as one. feel secure in the Knowledge that every Australian is united against this enemy and we will never rest until fully they are defeated. It is my beleif that the nation of Australia has never been intimidated and never will be.
To see the young Australians being brought home suffering severe burns made me sad but it has also made every Australian stronger. We are not a Nation of cowards.

 

[redback]

I would think that a lot of the American people probably care but I doubt wether Bush & his staff do I imagine them rubbing their hands together with joy thinking that because of this we will go along with thier attack on Iraq.

 

[dancingdoggie17]

no, why would geore bush be interested? he doesn't have his hed up johnny boy's arse like johnny has his up dubbya's!

 

[Stealth bomber]

Since I live here now, I haven't had much chance in seeing how the networks and papers back home have been covering this.

Well, from what I've read here, I have to say I am profoundly disappointed. If I still lived in the U.S. and had a chance to see this for myself, I would consider writing letters to media outlets about it.

 

[CharlieG]

I'm sick of America-bashing. What right do people have?

They're the closest friends we've got. They saved our country from being overrun by bloodthirsty gangsters in 1942 (ouch, politically incorrect. But facts are facts. The Japanese, as gentle as they are now, were animals) Winston Churchill saw us as an expendable resource. But the Americans bled to help us. To me, no amount of international support will ever begin to repay our debt of gratitude.

But despite this, Australians still feel free to hate America! Every time something happens, it's America's fault. People seem to love to blame America for the world's problems. You see the conspiracy theories all over the place - George Bush engineered 9/11 to ensure a second term in office. What a load of bullcrap! America bashing. Not because it's right. But because it's cool.

People are complaining about John Howard supposedly too pro-America pro-war stance. No proof of links to al-Qaeda make attacking Iraq... wrong? No. That's not the reason, it's because it's America leading the campaign, and it's fashionable to hate America. Well, when did this country lose its principles? When did it become wrong to send a murderer to hell? Or better yet, a court of law, where they can put him in a cage until hell comes calling?

Somewhere along the way, cowardice and political correctness took over courage and principle. We may never catch the people who bombed the Sari Club. We may never catch Osama bin-Laden. But we can catch Saddam, and make the world a better place. And we can do with America, because popular or not, they won't let us down.

 

[carlyp]

Originally posted by CharlieG
I'm sick of America-bashing. What right do people have?

They're the closest friends we've got. They saved our country from being overrun by bloodthirsty gangsters in 1942 (ouch, politically incorrect. But facts are facts. The Japanese, as gentle as they are now, were animals) Winston Churchill saw us as an expendable resource. But the Americans bled to help us. To me, no amount of international support will ever begin to repay our debt of gratitude.

But despite this, Australians still feel free to hate America! Every time something happens, it's America's fault. People seem to love to blame America for the world's problems. You see the conspiracy theories all over the place - George Bush engineered 9/11 to ensure a second term in office. What a load of bullcrap! America bashing. Not because it's right. But because it's cool.

People are complaining about John Howard supposedly too pro-America pro-war stance. No proof of links to al-Qaeda make attacking Iraq... wrong? No. That's not the reason, it's because it's America leading the campaign, and it's fashionable to hate America. Well, when did this country lose its principles? When did it become wrong to send a murderer to hell? Or better yet, a court of law, where they can put him in a cage until hell comes calling?

Somewhere along the way, cowardice and political correctness took over courage and principle. We may never catch the people who bombed the Sari Club. We may never catch Osama bin-Laden. But we can catch Saddam, and make the world a better place. And we can do with America, because popular or not, they won't let us down.

Thats exactly what I think! These Terrorists are so evil.
Did you see the leader of JI, on foreign correspondant???
The world has gone mad! Anyone that wants to bash a country for trying to do something about all this death and destruction is an idiot!