List Mgmt. Draft 2018: Lions 1st (5), Power 1st (10), Hawks 1st (15)

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This is what happens when Smith plays TAC cup:

"BOTTOM-AGER Bailey Smith had one of the best individual games of the 2017 TAC Cup season, earning him AFL Draft Central’s TAC Cup Player of the Round.

The Sandringham Dragons midfielder racked up a round-high 44 disposals in a best-on-ground display in the Dragons’ 30-point win over Western Jets on Saturday.

With Smith’s private school Xavier College having the bye in the APS school football competition, he was able to turn his attention to the contest in blustery conditions at Frankston Oval, winning the ball at ease throughout the midfield.

Smith finished with 44 disposals (22 contested) at 72 per cent efficiency, 13 inside 50s, 10 clearances, six marks and four rebound 50s.

His work in the contest was super and he recorded a game high five centre clearances, able to get the ball moving forward for the Dragons.

The bottom-ager has played six games this season, averaging 27 disposals and is putting his hand up to be one of the handful of additions to the NAB AFL Academy when it is announced in the coming months."

"SANDRINGHAM Dragons captain Bailey Smith started off Round 1 of the 2018 TAC Cup season with a bang, earning AFL Draft Central’s TAC Cup Player of the Round.

The Dragons midfielder racked up 37 disposals (22 contested), 12 clearances, eight inside 50s and seven tackles, in a best-on-ground display in the Dragons’ 45-point win over Northern Knights at Skybus Stadium on Saturday."

That's what happens when he isn't suffering from Achilles bursitis.
Bottom ager too so more upside than most.

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Smith isn't the first player ever from Xavier to be in this position. They would take it intro account
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last year both games when he played the western jets he tore up as a first year
will rewatch his game against valente this weekend.

for the record I'm Rankine > Smith >> Rozee.


Some people on here (led by yourself) think that it'll be grab the pitchforks time .

It's not that at all, i could understand how club gets to that position quite easily.
Yeah I get it. But I'm Rankine>> Smith> Rozee. Very subtly different but that doesn't take account of the go home and achilles issues.

TAC Cup is hard to judge as there are 12 teams who because of varying school commitments don't always have their best available and at that age development of physique varies. Just have a look at the film of Max King kicking 8-5 (it could have been 13-0 but was very windy). Hard to judge because his opponent was a solid foot shorter than him.

At least if we pass on Smith, you know he won't end up at the Cows. But if we pass on Rankine he might. That would be unbearable.
 
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Smith isn't the first player ever from Xavier to be in this position. They would take it intro account
also
last year both games when he played the western jets he tore up as a first year
will rewatch his game against valente this weekend.

for the record I'm Rankine > Smith >> Rozee.


Some people on here (led by yourself) think that it'll be grab the pitchforks time .

It's not that at all, i could understand how club gets to that position quite easily.
Hannebery went to Xavier and was in the same boat, although he turned 18 in February and they were the days you could turn 18 by 31/3/next year to be drafted this year, where as last 7 or 8 years its been by 31/12/this year. He was on the swans list in 2009 but stayed in Melbourne to finish year 12 and played school footy in year 12, but played a few AFL games in 2009 whilst still at school.
 
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I'm happy to take Smith over Rankine.

Smith is a december baby who has transitioned from the backline to a dominant mid in a short period. Rankine is precocious talent (8 months older) who has ridiculous evasive skills as a forward. Personally i think Port needs to build it's midfield and spine rather than using such a valuable pick on a forward flanker who can pinch hit in the middle.

The reality is that there is a pretty clear top 5 and it's likely we take the player available. (Walsh, Luko, Rankine, M. King and Smith)

To me, Smith rises as King has injury risk. (acl) Rankine plays the least important position, doesn't have great disposal and openly has issues about training.
 

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Rankine we get immense talent with questionable professionalism. Smith we get immense professionalism with questionable talent (when compared to the likes of Rankine). Either way, I'll completely understand and respect the club's reasoning behind the decision to chose one over the other if it comes to that. They both fill a need and neither is that much better than the other all things considered. I'm happy taking either, no preference.
 

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Yeah I’m very happy either way if we go smith or rankine.

At the moment the suggestion seems to be from multiple afl sites that

Blues - Walsh
Gcs - luko / rankine
Saints - max king
Port - Ben king or smith

Gcs are linked to Caldwell but it’s hard to say if they wouldn’t take Rozee at 6.

C4 on here did say that both sa teams were confident that Rozee comes back to sa first chance he gets so I am wondering if now Rozee slides to crows first pick.

We’ve been linked to Rozee at 10 lately but I would be amazed if crows pass on him but they have a history of left field first round picks

Smith / Rozee would be an amazing pair to draft with our first 2 picks.
 

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So is Rozee completely out of the question now? Or one of the Kings? It's come down to Rankine V Smith debate here, is it that simple?
Most of the choice here seems to centre around Smith and Rankine. Lukosius and Walsh look like a bridge too far. But if worst comes to worst I'd hope that we take the player with the good smarts and delivery, because that's what we've been missing.
 

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So is Rozee completely out of the question now? Or one of the Kings? It's come down to Rankine V Smith debate here, is it that simple?
I bloody hope so!

Max king goes at 4 if it’s down to Rankine or Smith for us at 5. There’s no way we should be raking Ben King at 5 when there’s probably a 50:50 chance he’s still there at 10.
 

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I want Smith but I get the feeling he is a flight risk..

In the article posted by Ford he is quoted as saying:
“I obviously understand that it’s a national competition and you can go anywhere, but I’d love to stay at home and I reckon I’d get the most out of myself if I did.”

For someone so driven to get the best out of himself if he feels he isnt reaching his potential, which Port consistantly fails to help players achieve, he will want to go back home.

Also in the draft rumors thread posters are talking about him being a flight risk and that Cal Twomey mentioned it on his podcast.

It seems the Dogs are very keen on him too.
 

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I want Smith but I get the feeling he is a flight risk..

In the article posted by Ford he is quoted as saying:
“I obviously understand that it’s a national competition and you can go anywhere, but I’d love to stay at home and I reckon I’d get the most out of myself if I did.”

For someone so driven to get the best out of himself if he feels he isnt reaching his potential, which Port consistantly fails to help players achieve, he will want to go back home.

Also in the draft rumors thread posters are talking about him being a flight risk and that Cal Twomey mentioned it on his podcast.

It seems the Dogs are very keen on him too.
How is that any less draft tampering than Rankine saying he would lprefer to play in Adelaide?
 

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How is that any less draft tampering than Rankine saying he would lprefer to play in Adelaide?
I dont think its draft tampering at all. Most if not all draftees want to stay in the same state.

My concern is Ports inability to develop talent may drive him to go where he thinks he can get the best out of himself.

We managed to turn Wines' view around so hopefully we could do the same with Smith.

If the Dogs are keen on him then they definitely wont trade their pick to us on draft night if he is still on the table.

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So is Rozee completely out of the question now? Or one of the Kings? It's come down to Rankine V Smith debate here, is it that simple?
No. If we can get another high pick selling next year's 1st then it's Smith/Rankine/King/Rozee.

This thread will get ugly.
 

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It's not, but we're in Adelaide. Rankine isn't leaving us to go play in Adelaide. Smith could leave us to go back to Melbourne.
Smith could leave Gold Coast to go back to Melbourne.

No top end pick wants to go to Gold Coast it's not directed at us it's a shot at Gold Coast.
 
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