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Miguel Sanchez said:
They'd be straight off to the Federal Court to have it declared a restraint of trade. Could put the whole draft in jeopardy.

Which is probably why the AFL doesn't crack down on it as much as they could.
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The kid in question could of course do that. They'd lose though. Quite quickly too I might add. Its called the National draft and to enter it an applicant accepts he may be drafted anywhere. Terms and conditions. At least to the first quote you responded to.

The second one is clearly a punative response and fraught with legal loopholes in the kids favour.
 
Brutalitops said:
The kid in question could of course do that. They'd lose though. Quite quickly too I might add. Its called the National draft and to enter it an applicant accepts he may be drafted anywhere. Terms and conditions.
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The subject of whether the draft is an illegal restraint of trade is far more complex than that.

The ARL tried to introduce one in the 1990s, the players’ association challenged it and got it scrapped.
 
Shaz2012 said:
What do people expect him to say though? I am sure the clubs want to know if a kid is going to sign an early extension like most kids do these days. If you ask the kid right now, his answer may well be no. But once he gets into the system and gets around the players and the club, he probably has a different outlook in 12 months time than he does now.
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Agree and we’ll we said, these are youngsters, after all, the slightly more mature individuals are hailed as leadership material, far too much hype its extraordinary and next week will be mayhem .
They need at least a season to bond and adapt a little, also one if a kid should be contaray to moving interstate for valid reasons we must respect that too.
 

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Miguel Sanchez said:
The subject of whether the draft is an illegal restraint of trade is far more complex than that.

The ARL tried to introduce one in the 1990s, the players’ association challenged it and got it scrapped.
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It isnt though. Its an established policy and while the AFL is a not for profit organisation it is still in essence able to maintain internal measures to ensure fairness across the competition. The ARL venture you cited was able to be quashed as they opposed the introduction to a new policy they felt was detrimental to their client base.

The AFL's draft policy was not challenged at its inception and has not been challenged since by the AFLPA. If you want to play in the AFL then you accept the terms and conditions of doing so. Theres no restraint of trade as you are free to play at state level. You just arent going to be earning the same dollars. You want the dollars? There are strings attached.

I guarantee you the AFL have a legal team capable of dismantling any court action started by an 18 year old's legal representative. Even if they had a Queens Counsel representing them pro bono.
 
Brutalitops said:
It isnt though. Its an established policy and while the AFL is a not for profit organisation it is still in essence able to maintain internal measures to ensure fairness across the competition. The ARL venture you cited was able to be quashed as they opposed the introduction to a new policy they felt was detrimental to their client base.

The AFL's draft policy was not challenged at its inception and has not been challenged since by the AFLPA. If you want to play in the AFL then you accept the terms and conditions of doing so. Theres no restraint of trade as you are free to play at state level. You just arent going to be earning the same dollars. You want the dollars? There are strings attached.

I guarantee you the AFL have a legal team capable of dismantling any court action started by an 18 year old's legal representative. Even if they had a Queens Counsel representing them pro bono.
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Yeah nah. The fact it hasn’t been challenged in the past has no bearing on how a court would decide a case in the future. It would be decided on the merits, on the precedent set in the ARL case. (That’s not to say it would go the same way.)
 
Brutalitops said:
It isnt though. Its an established policy and while the AFL is a not for profit organisation it is still in essence able to maintain internal measures to ensure fairness across the competition. The ARL venture you cited was able to be quashed as they opposed the introduction to a new policy they felt was detrimental to their client base.

The AFL's draft policy was not challenged at its inception and has not been challenged since by the AFLPA. If you want to play in the AFL then you accept the terms and conditions of doing so. Theres no restraint of trade as you are free to play at state level. You just arent going to be earning the same dollars. You want the dollars? There are strings attached.

I guarantee you the AFL have a legal team capable of dismantling any court action started by an 18 year old's legal representative. Even if they had a Queens Counsel representing them pro bono.
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Certainly the AFL do have protection in place , they’re overseeing a Bnl $ business the amount of people employed is enormous.
As more changes are implemented and accepted they’ll modernized things but with the principal core business well protected.
 
Brutalitops said:
It isnt though. Its an established policy and while the AFL is a not for profit organisation it is still in essence able to maintain internal measures to ensure fairness across the competition. The ARL venture you cited was able to be quashed as they opposed the introduction to a new policy they felt was detrimental to their client base.

The AFL's draft policy was not challenged at its inception and has not been challenged since by the AFLPA. If you want to play in the AFL then you accept the terms and conditions of doing so. Theres no restraint of trade as you are free to play at state level. You just arent going to be earning the same dollars. You want the dollars? There are strings attached.

I guarantee you the AFL have a legal team capable of dismantling any court action started by an 18 year old's legal representative. Even if they had a Queens Counsel representing them pro bono.
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If you want to play in our comp follow our rules...

The relevant federal court or authority will say if you want to have you’re comp in our country follow our laws.
 
Latest St Kilda rumour from Fox Sports

But Healy said the Suns could be prepared to send two picks (6 and 24) to St Kilda in exchange for the latter’s first selection (Pick 4). Under this scenario, Gold Coast would lose a second-round selection but then hold Picks 2, 3 and 4, which would open up the possibility of drafting SA’s best three prospects — Izak Rankine, Jack Lukosius and Connor Rozee — of this year’s draft class.

The Saints would move down two spots in the draft order, but it’s understood their preferred midfielder is Bailey Smith, who they believe might still be available at Pick 6. The trade would also give the Saints a second pick in the second round, with their other selection currently Pick 36.
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...d/news-story/ac4ce6285e5be05d96853c010f81b9df
 
Max King seems set to be the real slider on draft night if the Port being into Ben rumours are true.
 
Ford Fairlane said:
It would be funny if the King twins both wound up in Adelaide, Max at Port (5) and Ben at Adelaide (8). Would take care of homesickness insofar as they would be together in the same city. Mum and dad might have to move too :D

Imagine Port and Adelaide working together for mutual benefit. Will the sun rise again? :p
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Showdown matchup at CHF/CHB for the next decade.

Would be a great addition to the rivalry.

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bird_man said:
Gold Coast inquiring about pick 4.

Saints have said previously they'd only entertain a pick swap if it involved a top 6 pick.

That would give GC three SA boys and leave Saints with either King or Smith at 6 as well as another pick.
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Just a mind game like the Carlton one ?
Look like Gold coast inquiring a lot of club .
Carlton , St Kilda , Adelaide ,Port .
 
Peel67skin said:
Vic media .
Pick 4 for port 5,15.
Pick 4 for Adelaide 8,13
Pick 1 for pick 3 ,6
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I don't find it that hard to believe that clubs meet and have talks about pick swaps. Whether they all eventuate or not is another thing.

Our club have admitted to having talks to other clubs about a pick swap already.

Where did you read the pick 4 for 5 and 15 one?
 
bird_man said:
I don't find it that hard to believe that clubs meet and have talks about pick swaps. Whether they all eventuate or not is another thing.

Our club have admitted to having talks to other clubs about a pick swap already.

Where did you read the pick 4 for 5 and 15 one?
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Criag Cameron admitted he is not having talk with other club so far.
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-12/suns-would-need-extraordinary-offer-to-trade-early-picks


Cameron admits his phone hasn't been running hot with trade enquiries and doesn't expect that to change before Friday's deadline
 
JUSTWORK said:
Wines has said the second his name was called out he was planning on leaving the second his contract expired.

Changed his opinion very quickly once he arrived at Port.
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That was before he discovered his tarp fetish tho.
 
Brutalitops said:
The kid in question could of course do that. They'd lose though. Quite quickly too I might add. Its called the National draft and to enter it an applicant accepts he may be drafted anywhere. Terms and conditions. At least to the first quote you responded to.

The second one is clearly a punative response and fraught with legal loopholes in the kids favour.
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It's called a national draft because the kids are drafted from anywhere in the nation, has no relation to where they're going.

If Vic kids want to stay in Victoria then that's an advantage that levels the playing field a bit more for the Melbourne clubs and Geelong. Seems fair considering the concessions interstate clubs have gotten over the years.
 
Heaps of fun said:
It's called a national draft because the kids are drafted from anywhere in the nation, has no relation to where they're going.

If Vic kids want to stay in Victoria then that's an advantage that levels the playing field a bit more for the Melbourne clubs and Geelong. Seems fair considering the concessions interstate clubs have gotten over the years.
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What a load of cods wallop, you mean like having to travel every second weekend or playing the gf away from home?

The vfl is that way >>>>>
 
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