List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

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[Elite Pete]

At least CDT could be trialled in all thirds of the ground though. He's versatile.

Sharp u16 All Australian hbf, u18 AA mid and kicked goals when he went forward during the carnival and played a fair bit of league footy as an hff….

Not making this 51st a Sharp vs CDT on going argument. I don’t think they will over load on mids in this draft with our current list and draft hand. If they go Sharp, Greeves, Swadling and Rodriguez I will worry.

 

[Godfather32]

Yep.

Surely we don't need another HBF?

Haven't you been paying attention? According to some on here every half back flanker is just a midfielder that hasn't had the chance to play midfield yet...

 

[eaglesnutcase]

This one gets overblown and used too much on here I think. If they havent had the opportunity or theyve played other roles due to their versatility it doesnt mean they arent a mid.
What if they are mids who can play half back, rather than half backs who play mid? Its all stupid either way

So we are happy to lock in Duursma and Harley as our best 2 mids at this stage, Hewett at least 30-50% CBAs, and Dev as a role player as a minimum(I think B-grader but im optimistic, and he plays the role Sharp would play).

Im adding McCarthy as somewhere in between B and A grade for now in the middle, I genuinely think he will be a top tier mid for us but trying to be a bit more balanced.

My main point is with those 5 names, we have our midfield pretty much covered to be competent. A couple more decent role players and either Hewett or someone else stepping up to being around the B to A grade mark and our midfield is good enough to compete with or equal any in the comp outside maybe Brisbane who have their own unique advantages.

Dev playing the Sharp role?
Fu*k me man have you seen him kick? He is not a bloke you want with ball in hand within cooee of goals!
Sharps disposal is elite.Mightn’t look pretty but very effective.
Dev will try his heart out and go hard but I worry about his disposal.

 

[kokedoodledoo]

Dev playing the Sharp role?
Fu*k me man have you seen him kick? He is not a bloke you want with ball in hand within cooee of goals!
Sharps disposal is elite.Mightn’t look pretty but very effective.
Dev will try his heart out and go hard but I worry about his disposal.

Sharp doesn’t have elite disposal necessarily. I would say he more only kicks / handballs within his ability.

His handballs are excellent. His kicks are safe

 

[kranky al]

Given that our team is ordinary yet we are forced to spend a minimum on the salary cap, would it not be an idea to delist and rookie older players and pay them overs to stay and play in the wafl?

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Sharp doesn’t have elite disposal necessarily. I would say he more only kicks / handballs within his ability.

His handballs are excellent. His kicks are safe

Ashcroft struggles to kick more than 40ms but he doesn’t waste a kick

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Sharp doesn’t have elite disposal necessarily. I would say he more only kicks / handballs within his ability.

His handballs are excellent. His kicks are safe

It would be handy to have 23 players that meet that criteria.

 

[Keys]

From our 2025 playing list we no longer have -

• McGovern
• Allen
• Jamieson
• Livingstone

Young we brought in via trade

Now I’m not necessarily advocating for CDT but to suggest he doesn’t fill a list need is disingenuous

• Duursma is a utility
• One of other other R1 picks will be either a mid, a mid/fwd or a mid/def
• All four of our linked players are mids/fwds and I suspect we end up with at least 3, if not all 4 of them
• Macrae who whichever mature ager we bring in will be a mid

That’s 6-7 of our 9 vacant spots filled using non-talls

We need at least two talls out of this draft and if we overlook CDT for another mid then we only have 1-2 list spots leftover and will be looking in the RD/DFA to fill them - unless we take Schubert with our third pick

I can understand why we’re keen on CDT based on him being the second best available player in the open pool so whilst I’d probably prefer we go a different path I’m not going to be upset if they call his name out (after we’ve gone shopping for Queenslanders)

 

[maverick001]

That's certainly true of quality but it's not really true of player type.

We have an amassment of athletic taller utilitarian players with a bias towards backwards of centre play and a shortfall in physically robust and competitive agile smaller player with a bias towards forward of centre play.

The season is some time behind us but the width teams gained on us by being quicker around the ball won't be rectified from internal growth alone. We need different sorts of players all together.

Many of the player combinations in the top three do nothing to rectify our lists structural problems and if anything play into it. They are from my point of view banking on a large portion of our list not making the grade and thus are seeking replacement players in kind.

Who are the types of players you see as addressing this smaller players with forward bias and competitive

Cumming?
Dovaston?
Any others ?

 

[sregit]

Tiger supporter incursion.
I’ve just read the last 4 pages here debating CDT V Sharp. Pointless. If any WC supporters here have even the slightest/minute influence with the recruitment team at WC, please let them know Sharp is the gun player and let CDT fall through to Richmond. We’ll sadly wipe our eyes, having missed Sharp and reluctantly take CDT.

 

[txbyhull]

Tiger supporter incursion.
I’ve just read the last 4 pages here debating CDT V Sharp. Pointless. If any WC supporters here have even the slightest/minute influence with the recruitment team at WC, please let them know Sharp is the gun player and let CDT fall through to Richmond. We’ll sadly wipe our eyes, having missed Sharp and reluctantly take CDT.

I don’t really think any of us care what Richmond do

 

[WCE777]

From our 2025 playing list we no longer have -

• McGovern
• Allen
• Jamieson
• Livingstone

Young we brought in via trade

Now I’m not necessarily advocating for CDT but to suggest he doesn’t fill a list need is disingenuous

• Duursma is a utility
• One of other other R1 picks will be either a mid, a mid/fwd or a mid/def
• All four of our linked players are mids/fwds and I suspect we end up with at least 3, if not all 4 of them
• Macrae who whichever mature ager we bring in will be a mid

That’s 6-7 of our 9 vacant spots filled using non-talls

We need at least two talls out of this draft and if we overlook CDT for another mid then we only have 1-2 list spots leftover and will be looking in the RD/DFA to fill them - unless we take Schubert with our third pick

I can understand why we’re keen on CDT based on him being the second best available player in the open pool so whilst I’d probably prefer we go a different path I’m not going to be upset if they call his name out (after we’ve gone shopping for Queenslanders)

The mail being we are keen on Curtin from someone posted on here makes snse later in the draft, wouldn't think he gets through to the rookie draft but anything in the 3rd round would be cheap if he is over his illness/injury?
Saw something on insta that he was training with his brother now in the off season and a few other WA boys, Tholstrup, Boxshall and a couple of others from memory without doing a deep dive.
If he has the potential to get back to his 2024 form he would be a serious KPD option.

 

[mattyc75]

Simplifying it a bit:
Sharp is average at everything except his contested work for the most part.
CDT is a tall player who excels mostly at mobility and ground level stuff

Both are huge needs.
Sharp helps as he shores up our young midfield talent, less pressure on Hall/Gross types to be in full time mid roles.
We have a potential number 1 ruckman in Archer - he needs a partner, CDT can fill a Luke Jackson type role obviously with his own unique strengths.

Yes CDT is not a huge need right now, but in 2 years when BW and Flynn are traded/delisted what will our needs be then? Unless you want to be still relying on BW or Flynn long into the future, CDT is a big need.

I think most ppl have seen that there's much better rucks coming up in the next couple of drafts and would rather wait for them as opposed to getting another 2nd ruck/forward
Use our top picks this year on mids then when there's better rucks available grab them then

 

[sregit]

I don’t really think any of us care what Richmond do

Says you who has been posting on our site frequently.

 

[txbyhull]

Says you who has been posting on our site frequently.

Well… yeah? Our pick is before yours? Our pick of 2 directly affects yours?

 

[Barrybran]

Tiger supporter incursion.
I’ve just read the last 4 pages here debating CDT V Sharp. Pointless. If any WC supporters here have even the slightest/minute influence with the recruitment team at WC, please let them know Sharp is the gun player and let CDT fall through to Richmond. We’ll sadly wipe our eyes, having missed Sharp and reluctantly take CDT.

Who are you taking at 3 + 4 if WCE and Essendon swap picks and the Bombers take Robey?

 

[bzparkes]

Says you who has been posting on our site frequently.

 

[txbyhull]

 

[bzparkes]

Was pretty snappy, gotta admit.

 

[sregit]

Well… yeah? Our pick is before yours? Our pick of 2 directly affects yours?

Yes it does affect our pick, however, I think in the end it’s irrelevant as WC or who ever you may trade pick 2 with will choose a player and we select from who’s left. I was just putting my 2 cents worth in, like you have on many boards and stating I HOPE you leave CDT for us. I don’t rate Sharp. CDT is not a pure ruck. He’s super fast, great at ground level and has good footy smarts. I doubt he’ll ever play much ruck at AFL level. He can play any KP position. I’ve seen him live a couple of times and he’s impressive.

Sharp I have seen in one game. Racked up kicks but appears bog average. Work horse type.

 

[sregit]

Who are you taking at 3 + 4 if WCE and Essendon swap picks and the Bombers take Robey?

Definitely CDT.

 

[txbyhull]

Yes it does affect our pick, however, I think in the end it’s irrelevant as WC or who ever you may trade pick 2 with will choose a player and we select from who’s left. I was just putting my 2 cents worth in, like you have on many boards

It’s just the manner in which you did it mate, I’ve no issue at all when people stop in and have a chat, it’s great

and stating I HOPE you leave CDT for us. I don’t rate Sharp. CDT is not a pure ruck. He’s super fast, great at ground level and has good footy smarts. I doubt he’ll ever play much ruck at AFL level. He can play any KP position. I’ve seen him live a couple of times and he’s impressive.

Sharp I have seen in one game. Racked up kicks but appears bog average. Work horse type.

And if you’ve read the last few pages you’ll know I quite like Sharp. At the end of the day yes it’ll be as simple as Richmond pick CDT if we don’t, and that is only a good thing for you guys for sure. I’m happy with either

 

[txbyhull]

Definitely CDT.

I have had a great laugh at bombers fans thinking there’s even a tiny chance they leave the draft with CDT and Robey

 

[Barrybran]

Definitely CDT.

How about pick 4 with Duursma, Robey & CDT off the board?

 

[Barrybran]

I have had a great laugh at bombers fans thinking there’s even a tiny chance they leave the draft with CDT and Robey

Which is why any trade for pick 2 would involve pick 5 and not pick 6. If Richmond did go the Sharp/Cumming combo, we would definitely take CDT at 5.