List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[uptheWC]

I feel we'll just let Williams go and take Banfield and Evans instead.

Reckon Evans would be a first rounder if he wasn't injured.

What use is there in taking them in the main draft if there’s no bid when we could just rookie them anyway? Banfield Cat A and Evans Cat B still leaves one rookie spot open too.

 

[FKASC]

He’s still only turning 22 next month and with Archer perhaps leaning more ruck and Allen gone he may just turn it on this year. He’s particularly smart with leading patterns and could still be something pretty handy I think

Can kick straight too

 

[paran]

Shit pick at Hanging Rock.



(joke)

C'mon Man! It's right there:

PicNextNic at Hanging Rock

 

[FKASC]

the name Nairn reminds me a bit too much of Naish

 

[bzparkes]

What use is there in taking them in the main draft if there’s no bid when we could just rookie them anyway? Banfield Cat A and Evans Cat B still leaves one rookie spot open too.

Need to keep the list spots open if they get bid on.

Evans, for instance, was interviewed by 10 clubs.

I also think they'll be better options than taking a punt on other players in the later rounds.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

PicNextNic at Hanging Rock

the name Nairn reminds me a bit too much of Naish

Nairntanui

 

[bzparkes]

C'mon Man! It's right there:

PicNextNic at Hanging Rock

As long as his nickname's Picnic, I can die happy.

 

[uptheWC]

Need to keep the list spots open if they get bid on.

Evans, for instance, was interviewed by 10 clubs.

I also think they'll be better options than taking a punt on other players in the later rounds.

I think leave one spot open for a bid and use the top 3 picks and 34/41. If there’s a bid before then probably pass.

 

[Mr Q]

Re-post from the main draft board.

Very interesting he felt compelled to do this, especially when Collingwood’s first pick is pick 39. I wonder if he’s releasing his 20m sprint times too…

Quite likely the location was incidental (ie Collingwood's was the easiest to do) - recruiters doesn't specify that it's only Pies ones.

 

[Goroyals22]

I have my doubts about Jack's athleticism (although like him) but I am not sure him being out of favour with Mini last year means he will be this year. Last year he looked unfit and still had baby fat. Maybe the issue was simply that Mini didn't think he was fit enough. This year he seems to have come back leaner and he could well be back in favour again after being asked to work on that/realising he needed to.

We will see I guess.

I’m still backing him to make it as a ruckman. We don’t need him forward anymore full time with Shanahan and my old mate down there. Archer and Williams can swap through the forward line or through the bench.

 

[Mr Q]

What use is there in taking them in the main draft if there’s no bid when we could just rookie them anyway? Banfield Cat A and Evans Cat B still leaves one rookie spot open too.

Fine if you know no bids are coming, but if you're not sure, and they might come, you've got to have list space available for them - or they are gone.

For mine, the AFL should just dispose of "rookie" lists for this reason and fold them all into the main list. Then this sort of shenanigans would be unnecessary. At the end of draft night, clubs with remaining open spaces should then be able to use them for

1. DFAs
2. Unbid FA/NGAs (with one year contract)
3. SSP spots (with one year contract)
4. Choose to have up to two empty list spots (can be filled at MSD if available)

Just simplifies things. We'd be able to just list Dev/McRae etc at the end of draft night and get them training, we'd have the spots for the NGAs without faffing around with "delist + rookie" bollocks.

If you have to have any separate lists, I'd bring back the old "Veterans List" and have that up to two players who've been on your list for 10+ years, and they're additional list spots. Maybe the CatB rookies could remain.

 

[Farmer Lister]

Nairn has a real Melbourne feel about him.

Cam Naarm

 

[uptheWC]

Fine if you know no bids are coming, but if you're not sure, and they might come, you've got to have list space available for them - or they are gone.

For mine, the AFL should just dispose of "rookie" lists for this reason and fold them all into the main list. Then this sort of shenanigans would be unnecessary. At the end of draft night, clubs with remaining open spaces should then be able to use them for

1. DFAs
2. Unbid FA/NGAs (with one year contract)
3. SSP spots (with one year contract)
4. Choose to have up to two empty list spots (can be filled at MSD if available)

Just simplifies things. We'd be able to just list Dev/McRae etc at the end of draft night and get them training, we'd have the spots for the NGAs without faffing around with "delist + rookie" bollocks.

If you have to have any separate lists, I'd bring back the old "Veterans List" and have that up to two players who've been on your list for 10+ years, and they're additional list spots. Maybe the CatB rookies could remain.

Is the rookie list not outside the salary cap though? I may be mistaken.

 

[Mr Q]

Is the rookie list not outside the salary cap though? I may be mistaken.

Only the basic rookie salary component though - you could just grant that as additional cap space.

Sure, at Essendon, Zac Merrett would immediately demand it all goes to him, but it's a simple enough solution for everyone else.

 

[Bradis]

Had a poor champ and struggles for impact per possession like Dev Robertson. I guess because he's a forbidden GCS academy prospect that people here rate him.

Not exactly sure you can claim he had a poor champs considering he did a Hammy in the first match

Would love to pick up Addinsall and not sure where you are getting the Dev comparisons. Great agility in close, kicks off both feet and has insane vision. Only issue I could see is depth/penetration of kicks because he is a low centre of gravity player, but he does hit the low and fast pass beautifully. Looks like a Lachie Neal / Shuey type and the exact sort of player we are missing in the midfield.

 

[Obeanie1]

Could be good for a Sharp slide

Sharp isnt sliding past Essendon or Melbourne.

 

[Obeanie1]

Everyone is talking about 9 but 11 would be a better pick for Carlton to trade as that will be the pick affected. I'm sure their board is going to have several trades lined up for when that bid comes.

How is pick 9 not affected by a bid on Dean?

9 pushes out to 12 or 13.

Dean bid expected around live pick 9 or 10.

Blues 1st pick gets affected.

 

[NYJetsfor2029]

Can kick straight too

Yeah that’s Jack’s weapon and point of difference (to say McInness), he’s a natural finisher.
Went 5.4, 16.4, 16.9 the past three years. Plonk him at full forward in a good team and he’d be a valuable scoreboard contributor (think someone like Collingwood would love him)

 

[Obeanie1]

No they couldn’t, picks 2 and 3 are worth roughly 4150 inc the -10% even if they were to use all their picks to match that (which is generous) they wouldn’t be able to match a pick in the first 20 due to going over the allowed deficit.

If we want Addinsall we can easily ensure we get him.

Then they trade in a 2025 3rd to reduce the deficit.

It isn't impossible.

 

[Barrybran]

How is pick 9 not affected by a bid on Dean?

9 pushes out to 12 or 13.

Dean bid expected around live pick 9 or 10.

Blues 1st pick gets affected.

The first pick gets swallowed. It's the second pick that moves.

 

[Elite Pete]

Maric must of been upgraded last year

 

[TOA.]

Watching Gettable and I get the very clear impression that Twomey doesn’t really have a great line of sight to what West Coast are planning

Beyond the obvious of Duursma and CDT being the one, two punch at the top of the draft which has been the widely held belief for weeks he doesn’t offer much else on West Coast. That we’re probably going to bid on Uwland at pick 2 and maybe Dean after that is about the extent of it.

Pretty much the rest of his comments around West Coast are things that aren’t going to happen - no offer from Essendon for pick 2, no deal likely with Carlton for pick 9, Farrow won’t get to our third pick

A lot of talk about the likes of Taylor, Robey, Cumming, Farrow, Grlj, Sharp being looked at by Richmond, Essendon and Melbourne but not a single peep about us even contemplating any of those players - surely our recruiters aren’t that blinkered to not even be talking to that group. Twomey would have us believe otherwise

Then absolute donuts on who we might be looking at with pick 13 - not a single player discussed in that range was linked to West Coast

Clubs with picks just before and after pick 13 were linked to the following:

Hawthorn- Lindsay, Farrow
GWS- Farrow, Marsh, Taylor, Pickett, Nairn, Ludowyke, Grlj
Bulldogs- Lindsay, Dovaston, Taylor
Adelaide- Marsh, Thredgold, Taylor, Barker
Geelong- Lindsay, Taylor

It’s almost as if he forgot we have that pick

Cameron Nairn Draft Profile

Central District forward Cameron Nairn is a deadeye in front of goal and plays taller than his standing with clean overhead marking.

central.rookieme.com

Agree with Twomey and CDT. It appears his view is more that WC should take him as he's considered the second best live prospect, rather than having intel we will. With that said, given there isnt really a standout alternative mid, we may just go with CDT as best available.

I think Twomey is otherwise stuck on who else he can link us to. I found it interesting that when he speaks about Robey he always says its from Richmond onwards. I've dont recall him linking him to us.

 

[txbyhull]

Power granted NGA access to 2026's potential No.1 pick

Dougie Cochrane's application to join Port Adelaide's Next Generation Academy as an Indigenous player has been approved

www.afl.com.au

 

[Shueygod]

Then they trade in a 2025 3rd to reduce the deficit.

It isn't impossible.

What are they getting with their 2025 3rd that’s worth 300+ points?

Even if they were to somehow magic these extra points, if we really want Addinsall we just bid on the GC boys 1 and 2.

 

[Keys]

Every clubs picks based on available list spots following upgrades from club’s rookie lists. The draft goes out to pick 74 overall but it’s expected that the number of picks actually used will be somewhere in the mid fifties- clubs will keep spots open for either further rookie upgrades or DFA signings post draft

Looking at that list the clubs with a late pick(s) that might eye off a sneaky late bid on Banfield and/or Evans would be Collingwood, Fremantle, Hawthorn and St Kilda

Adelaide with their late picks probably means any outside chance Cody Curtin had of slipping through to the rookie draft would be shot.