List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

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[amazingjoshy]

That’s what we want to hear.

"A deal had been floated between Essendon and Gold Coast – also yet to be agreed to – during the trade period which would see the Bombers trade picks 21 and 27 to the Suns for pick 15.

The Bombers could then dangle that pick 15 — along with pick 5 or 6 — in front of the Eagles, but even that is unlikely to satisfy West Coast which would prefer a future first-round pick to be involved."

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I'd do that deal, and then I'd look at turning 15 into Carlton's pick 9.

 

[Keys]

That’s what we want to hear.

From that article

While no offer has been put forward yet, there is speculation in recruiting circles that Essendon could still look to climb up the board in a swap with West Coast.

The player believed to be firmly in the Bombers’ sights if they were to make that move is Calder Cannons ruckman Cooper Duff-Tytler, who is otherwise favoured to join the Eagles with one of the club’s first two picks.

Rivals believe Essendon is “obsessed” with Duff-Tytler, who played for the club’s VFL team this year and is also good mates with Bombers Next Generation Academy prospects Adam Sweid and Hussien El Achkar.

A deal had been floated between Essendon and Gold Coast – also yet to be agreed to – during the trade period which would see the Bombers trade picks 21 and 27 to the Suns for pick 15.

The Bombers could then dangle that pick 15 — along with pick 5 or 6 — in front of the Eagles, but even that is unlikely to satisfy West Coast which would prefer a future first-round pick to be involved.

If the Eagles did agree to trade back to pick 5 this year, they could look to players like ready-made South Australian midfielder Dyson Sharp or draft bolter Sullivan Robey at pick 5, instead of Duff-Tytler.

The Suns are happy to move that pick 15 as they chase more points to match expected early bids on Academy talents, while the Brisbane Lions’ pick 17 and Greater Western Sydney’s pick 35 are also up for grabs.

Carlton looks set to hold its position at picks 9 and 11 for now but has held talks with Adelaide around a trade as they look to bank more draft points to match a bid on father-son and potential top-two pick Cody Walker next year.

The Crows have been weighing up trading pick 16 this year and a future first-round selection for Carlton’s picks 9 and 11 this year.

If they were to shuffle up, other clubs believe Adelaide would look at a key forward like Aidan Schubert or a top-10 slider who could have an instant impact next year.

Looking at getting good value from trading down pick 2 to 5 - 2 for 5 and 15 would be a good result. Getting a F1 would be even better although you’d think we’d be sending a F2 back in that instance

Adelaide eyeing of picks 9 and 11 isn’t so good as it would mean those picks would be used instead of potentially being lost in a match for Dean. It obviously also means we’d be unable to move up to 9

That said 9 and 11 for 16 and Adelaide’s F1 is a pretty horrible looking trade for Carlton

 

[Eastern Rangers]

D is an extremely harsh rating here, compared to what you’ve given the other guys you’ve listed. Don’t think he lacks much physicality at all.

Agree he has elite endurance. Could be that hard running midfielder in the mould of a Max Holmes.

The rank is purely AFL translatability. I can't think of a player with Swadling's size, body type, athleticism and skill set succeeding at AFL level.

 

[Vin]

The rank is purely AFL translatability. I can't think of a player with Swadling's size, body type, athleticism and skill set succeeding at AFL level.

What’s the concern with his body type?

 

[eaglevision]

From that article



Looking at getting good value from trading down pick 2 to 5 - 2 for 5 and 15 would be a good result. Getting a F1 would be even better although you’d think we’d be sending a F2 back in that instance

Adelaide eyeing of picks 9 and 11 isn’t so good as it would mean those picks would be used instead of potentially being lost in a match for Dean. It obviously also means we’d be unable to move up to 9

That said 9 and 11 for 16 and Adelaide’s F1 is a pretty horrible looking trade for Carlton

It was poorly written, it’s likely to mean they are looking at both picks 9 and 11 but the trade will only involve one of them. 9 for 16 + F1 (Adelaide), probably with Blues F2/F3 going back for example.

2 for 5 and 15 is classic WCE. I wouldn’t be keen on that with the talent at 15 but I’d do 2 and F2 (WCE) for 5 and F1 (ESS) if they are “obsessed” with CDT.

2 for 5 and 15 would have to be the best offer on the table when the bell goes with an assurance that Richmond don’t take both Sharp and Cumming to pull the trigger on that.

 

[Rowan18]

It was poorly written, it’s likely to mean they are looking at both picks 9 and 11 but the trade will only involve one of them. 9 for 16 + F1 (Adelaide), probably with Blues F2/F3 going back for example.

2 for 5 and 15 is classic WCE. I wouldn’t be keen on that with the talent at 15 but I’d do 2 and F2 (WCE) for 5 and F1 (ESS) if they are “obsessed” with CDT.

2 for 5 and 15 would have to be the best offer on the table when the bell goes with an assurance that Richmond don’t take both Sharp and Cumming to pull the trigger on that.

I'd take 5 and 15 for 2. Allows us to try and package 13 and 15 for a late top 10 (pick 9 or maybe 8 from Melbourne), or trade for a F1 from a middling team.

2 and Eagles F2 for 5 and Bombers F1 would be an absolute steal! The F1 could be a top 4 pick. I really doubt Bombers would do it.

 

[Barrybran]

I'd take 5 and 15 for 2. Allows us to try and package 13 and 15 for a late top 10 (pick 9 or maybe 8 from Melbourne), or trade for a F1 from a middling team.

2 and Eagles F2 for 5 and Bombers F1 would be an absolute steal! The F1 could be a top 4 pick. I really doubt Bombers would do it.

Yeah, Essendon F1 isn't happening. I don't mind the idea of trying to package 13 + 15 for 8.

 

[mitchzz]

That’s what we want to hear.

 

[boondy]

If Essondon have pick 2 CDT
Who do Richmond take at 3 and 4

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

I'd take 5 and 15 for 2. Allows us to try and package 13 and 15 for a late top 10 (pick 9 or maybe 8 from Melbourne), or trade for a F1 from a middling team.

2 and Eagles F2 for 5 and Bombers F1 would be an absolute steal! The F1 could be a top 4 pick. I really doubt Bombers would do it.

I don't really agree at all. Richmond last year traded pick 26 or whatever for a future first. If the Bombers are that desperate for pick 2 we should only accept our first preference whatever that is and not negotiate to our second or third preference.

 

[Barrybran]

If Essondon have pick 2 CDT
Who do Richmond take at 3 and 4

Some combination of Robey, Grjl, Taylor and Cumming

 

[Elite Pete]

Same thing but just not behind a pay wall

If we take 15 do we even have the list spots if we can’t trade up? Can’t see it happening or Essendon giving up a F1

 

[evans1863]

It was poorly written, it’s likely to mean they are looking at both picks 9 and 11 but the trade will only involve one of them. 9 for 16 + F1 (Adelaide), probably with Blues F2/F3 going back for example.

2 for 5 and 15 is classic WCE. I wouldn’t be keen on that with the talent at 15 but I’d do 2 and F2 (WCE) for 5 and F1 (ESS) if they are “obsessed” with CDT.

2 for 5 and 15 would have to be the best offer on the table when the bell goes with an assurance that Richmond don’t take both Sharp and Cumming to pull the trigger on that.

This is the kind of deal I’d rather see is make, although given Essendon are unlikely to take Sharp(?) I think I’d press for:

Give: 2, F2 (STK)
Get: 6, F1

Still leaves us a good chance at getting 9 too

 

[Wce17]

"A deal had been floated between Essendon and Gold Coast – also yet to be agreed to – during the trade period which would see the Bombers trade picks 21 and 27 to the Suns for pick 15.

The Bombers could then dangle that pick 15 — along with pick 5 or 6 — in front of the Eagles, but even that is unlikely to satisfy West Coast which would prefer a future first-round pick to be involved."

Same thing but just not behind a pay wall

If we take 15 do we even have the list spots if we can’t trade up? Can’t see it happening or Essendon giving up a F1

Would just mean we would only have room for 1 of the FS or NGA Players

 

[Wce17]

I'd be keen for something like this.

2, 13 for 5 & ESS F1

Every chance that ESS F1 could be a top 5 pick in a stronger draft. Might need to be a few other picks thrown about but that would be the bones. Really depends on how keen they are for CDT if they'd go for it.

Still leaves us with 1 & 5 in the first round this year and then a bunch of picks for players later on or to match NGA& FS bids.

Next year in a hopefully stronger draft we would have 2 x 1sts & 2 x 2nds to play with. Would set us up nicely

 

[bzparkes]

I'd be keen for something like this.

2, 13 for 5 & ESS F1

Every chance that ESS F1 could be a top 5 pick in a stronger draft. Might need to be a few other picks thrown about but that would be the bones. Really depends on how keen they are for CDT if they'd go for it.

Still leaves us with 1 & 5 in the first round this and then a bunch of picks for players later on or to match NGA& FS bids.

Next year in a hopefully stronger draft we would have 2 x 1sts & 2 x 2nds to play with. Would set us up nicely

That would be great but can't see Essendon doing it unfortunately.

Just like I can't see us going for 5 + 15 either, as we're unlikely to use the later pick unless we have another buyer for a F1st.

 

[Coasters7]

5 and 15 isn’t anywhere near enough imo. Seems to be a clear top 2 at this stage and we’re letting the Bombers come out with one of them for the cost of 15 whilst also being able to take another at 6?

5 and 6 (or F1) needs to be the price, even if that means something going back their way.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Would just mean we would only have room for 1 of the FS or NGA Players

Which is probably why we're interested in the future pick

2 + Saints F2 for 5 + F1

If they're so desperate let them pay, otherwise keep our picks

 

[Boohemian]

5 and 15 isn’t anywhere near enough imo. Seems to be a clear top 2 at this stage and we’re letting the Bombers come out with one of them for the cost of 15 whilst also being able to take another at 6?

5 and 6 (or F1) needs to be the price, even if that means something going back their way.

Agree with this. If they're "obsessed" they will cough up 5+ 6.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

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I'd be keen for something like this.

2, 13 for 5 & ESS F1

Every chance that ESS F1 could be a top 5 pick in a stronger draft. Might need to be a few other picks thrown about but that would be the bones. Really depends on how keen they are for CDT if they'd go for it.

Still leaves us with 1 & 5 in the first round this year and then a bunch of picks for players later on or to match NGA& FS bids.

Next year in a hopefully stronger draft we would have 2 x 1sts & 2 x 2nds to play with. Would set us up nicely

No, that's trading out of this draft and kicking the can down the road....again. We need 3 picks, preferably inside 10.

 

[FKASC]

What’s the bet Ess trade us 6 and then they take Sharp with 5 prompting an almighty melt in this thread

 

[amazingjoshy]

2&13 for 5&6 if they don't want to involve their F1

Bombers can then do their trade for 15 with GC and use 13&15 to try to get back into the top 10 if they want. Let that be their problem

Otherwise just take the guys we want at 1&2

 

[twce13]

If we don’t trade it’s pretty good indication we’re into CDT you would think.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I do now kind of hope of draft night we bid on 4 guys at 2, and then trade the pick