List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

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[Peptide Pig]

Interesting story behind why he didn’t test at the combine too.

He knew he would test poorly so went around licking door handles at Rundle Mall

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Not sure about that, he'll be ready to play seniors straight away.

Waterman Shanahan forward

Reid baz rucks

Young Edwards back

So are we playing 3 rucks which would likely mean 3 talls forward a lot, or does baz fall out? Reid has to play.

Interested to see what your spine look like.

 

[pantskyle]

Waterman Shanahan forward

Reid baz rucks

Young Edwards back

So are we playing 3 rucks which would likely mean 3 talls forward a lot, or does baz fall out? Reid has to play.

Interested to see what your spine look like.

Probably a bit wonky.

 

[Peptide Pig]

The highlight at 1.40 he crumbs a spoiled mark on half back, bursts away with decent speed, takes a bounce and hits a target in the fwd 50 on the chest with a 40m pass

Did you mean some other highlight?

Very generous use of ‘bursts away’.

He looks great in the contest and seems to have decent footy IQ but still gives strong plodder vibes with the step up to AFL speed. His disposal by foot is certainly nothing special, but quick hands in close as an extractor. Looks like a man amongst boys in some contests.

There’s so many similar write up’s of inside mids in previous drafts that go on to dominate state league but struggle to adapt at AFL pace, especially with the way the game is headed with such fast transition and limited spots for inside mids.

Seems like a hard worker and professional for his age so will probably get the best out of himself. But you can see the question marks on his upside and why he is ranked slightly lower than others.

 

[Astro7]

I've watched every Sharp highlights package available and I get why a lot of people like how he go's about it. He tackles hard and get's his hands on the ball constantly. You can't fault his work rate. But that's only half of the battle, you still have to be able to do something with it. Most of the time he's dishing off a quick handball or a looping short pass. He's got a poor ball drop at speed (not that he has any) shown pretty clearly at 1.40 in his SANFL round 16 highlights. I think he'll slide past Cumming, Grlj and maybe even Farrow because without a decent kick, speed or endurance he's limited to a Priddis style ball hunting inside mid role. Some people love the Pridda type of Mid and that's cool. I think the game moved away from even having 1 of that type of one dimensional player in the middle 2 years ago.

He looks like an absolute ball-pig extractor to me? His breakaway pace and evasive skills are good (see 'Movement' in vid). An AFL preseason in good company should improve his gears.

 

[beagles]

Two weeks to go before we take Duursma, CDT and Farrow

 

[Elite Pete]

Counter offer?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Presuming we take Duursma, I was just thinking about where to play him.
Easy thing to do would be to put him on the wing or half back. Use his marking and let the play come to him.

However, thinking about it a bit more, maybe forward would be the way to go. If he really wants to follow in the Bonts footsteps, then play him forward with stints in the middle. It would be good for his long term development. Learning to play forward so he can be a mid in the future that can play/rest forward.

Would avoid the wing as it's where young players go to get lost.

Behind the ball to rack up easy touches like North did with Sheezel, has limited utility in my view as well. It's not teaching them much other than having no accountability and uncontested touches. Sure given him spells there if he's not touching it, but, high half forward pushing up into the midfield as a link player is better for long term growth.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Counter offer?

You give us 7 and 8, we'll give you 13 and a F3?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Very generous use of ‘bursts away’.

He looks great in the contest and seems to have decent footy IQ but still gives strong plodder vibes with the step up to AFL speed. His disposal by foot is certainly nothing special, but quick hands in close as an extractor. Looks like a man amongst boys in some contests.

There’s so many similar write up’s of inside mids in previous drafts that go on to dominate state league but struggle to adapt at AFL pace, especially with the way the game is headed with such fast transition and limited spots for inside mids.

Seems like a hard worker and professional for his age so will probably get the best out of himself. But you can see the question marks on his upside and why he is ranked slightly lower than others.

I was genuinely wondering what highlight you were referring to. The one at 1.40 isnt at all how you described it. Thought you might have meant another

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I've watched every Sharp highlights package available and I get why a lot of people like how he go's about it. He tackles hard and get's his hands on the ball constantly. You can't fault his work rate. But that's only half of the battle, you still have to be able to do something with it. Most of the time he's dishing off a quick handball or a looping short pass. He's got a poor ball drop at speed (not that he has any) shown pretty clearly at 1.40 in his SANFL round 16 highlights. I think he'll slide past Cumming, Grlj and maybe even Farrow because without a decent kick, speed or endurance he's limited to a Priddis style ball hunting inside mid role. Some people love the Pridda type of Mid and that's cool. I think the game moved away from even having 1 of that type of one dimensional player in the middle 2 years ago.

Yet every year in finals when the game slows down, the clubs that are still going at the business end have players that can win the contest.

 

[JADED]

He looks like an absolute ball-pig extractor to me? His breakaway pace and evasive skills are good (see 'Movement' in vid). An AFL preseason in good company should improve his gears. Are we talking about a different Dyson Sharp?

Main reason I'd like Sharp at 2 (or 1) is he'd be the most likely to help Reid. Whether that's dishing it out or taking some heat as an in and under extractor. He'd be a great addition.

 

[uncleoatmeal]

I think we’ve comprehensively covered cdt and sharp on here. Who do posters ‘not’ want from our top 3 picks? I would pass on Robey (unless he is pick 13), xtaylor (backman), Greeves (need defensive runners with Reid in our midfield). I haven’t added farrow and otaylor as I see them with scope to play out of the backline.

I’m just excited to bring in better talent than what is currently on our list.

 

[Astro7]

Main reason I'd like Sharp at 2 (or 1) is he'd be the most likely to help Reid. Whether that's dishing it out or taking some heat as an in and under extractor. He'd be a great addition.

Exactly, we need an inside extractor. But there's others around that mark that could be okay. The main thing is we're getting more quality mids to assist our current mids and those that are coming through.

 

[JADED]

I was genuinely wondering what highlight you were referring to. The one at 1.40 isnt at all how you described it. Thought you might have meant another

Probably 1:36ish, it's the play before in the middle of the ground, heading to left of your screen that shows a slower ball drop, but it's probably more the kick type required in this instance..
He does look like he's being very careful with his kicks though. Better than a panicked dump kick I guess. He won't get that much time at AFL level to kick (in play) so he'd need to improve there, but his handball extraction already seems ideal for us so even having him do that twice a quarter is huge.

 

[squashface]

Two weeks to go before we take Duursma, CDT and Farrow

I'll finally agree with the "they've done it to themselves" crowd if we come out of draft with our best hand ever with 0 inside mids drafted.

 

[Keys]

Two weeks to go before we take Duursma, CDT and Farrow

I’ve said this before, but whilst I’d personally prefer a different outcome, this is a pretty good baseline for us - the consensus best player in the draft, the consensus second best player in the open pool (with some having him second best overall) and the highest rated player out of WA

As a supposedly worst case scenario it’s still a pretty decent outcome

 

[squashface]

I’ve said this before, but whilst I’d personally prefer a different outcome, this is a pretty good baseline for us - the consensus best player in the draft, the consensus second best player in the open pool (with some having him second best overall) and the highest rated player out of WA

As a supposedly worst case scenario it’s still a pretty decent outcome

I guess our midfield is all good then?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Probably 1:36ish, it's the play before in the middle of the ground, heading to left of your screen that shows a slower ball drop, but it's probably more the kick type required in this instance..
He does look like he's being very careful with his kicks though. Better than a panicked dump kick I guess. He won't get that much time at AFL level to kick (in play) so he'd need to improve there, but his handball extraction already seems ideal for us so even having him do that twice a quarter is huge.

That one's from a mark. The poster said he has a "poor ball drop at speed" which is why I thought they were referring to the next one.

Cannot see an issue with his kicking in his highlights packages. Those that have watched him actually play may have seen something though. Im more concerned about Robeys kicking (judging purely on 5 mins of highlights)

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

So if you sat in the Eagles final draft meeting, and had the last say to split the vote between Robey and CDT, who would you take?

I don't know anything about talent, with my entire view based on having read reviews, opinions and watched the clips posted on here.

The argument for CDT:

• Rare kind of athleticism at 200cm, even amongst other elite (tall) athletes competing at the top level.
• Clean one-touch player
• Good skills
• High work ethic
• According to this early write up his ruckwork is actually decent, though seems to be based on 2024 form which he didn't show in 2025.
• Strong mark, according to his Calder Cannons coach, Sam Willatt here "The marks he takes where he takes it at its highest point is really damaging".
• Seems like a lot of upside there as he grows into his body.

The argument against:

• "short" for an AFL ruckman, though there's mixed news from his latest measurement being 201cm (which means he's effectively stopped growing) to 204cm.
• Instinctively takes chest marks, which won't cut the mustard at AFL level.
• Athleticism is relative. Actual mids will run circles around him, while taller rucks will dominate him in ruck contests. So what exactly does he offer?

Robey
The argument for:

• Explosive
• Has shown he can accumulate the possessions
• Goal scoring mid
• Clean hands & disposal
• Big body

The argument against:

• Showed his skills over a very short period. Was it just a rich vein of form against youth teams, which typically had only a handful of draftable players but mostly a bunch of kids who will never even play at VFL level.
• Played for a strong youth team, always easier to play well when your team does too (as we've all seen the opposite with the Eagles lately).

My conclusion:
Both have more pro's than con's. What wins it for CDT in my mind is body of work AND that he offers something unique at his size. While Robey doesn't bring as much given we already have Harley, Hewett, Allan & Ginbey as those big bodied mids with Duursma to come as well.

Happy to be corrected on my views.

 

[Elite Pete]

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[Keys]

I guess our midfield is all good then?

No it’s not

I said I’d prefer a different outcome - something like Duursma, Sharp/Cumming, Dovaston would be better suited to our needs

But the problem is that this draft doesn’t appear to be particularly rich in midfielders so it’s not a straight forward decision.

Sharp and Cumming are the two highest rated pure midfielders but neither are rated in the best two players like CDT is so either would be a reach with pick 2. Ideally we take advantage of Essendon’s apparent obsession with CDT and get a viable trade return to move from 2 to 5 in order to get Sharp/Cumming plus extras instead of CDT

Happy for you to point out the midfielder around pick 13 we should be looking at - I don’t think there is one

My point stands - I think we have better options than CDT and Farrow to group with Duursma but in no way do I think that’s a horrible result.

 

[squashface]

No it’s not

I said I’d prefer a different outcome - something like Duursma, Sharp/Cumming, Dovaston would be better suited to our needs

But the problem is that this draft doesn’t appear to be particularly rich in midfielders so it’s not a straight forward decision.

Sharp and Cumming are the two highest rated pure midfielders but neither are rated in the best two players like CDT is so either would be a reach with pick 2. Ideally we take advantage of Essendon’s apparent obsession with CDT and get a viable trade return to move from 2 to 5 in order to get Sharp/Cumming plus extras instead of CDT

Happy for you to point out the midfielder around pick 13 we should be looking at - I don’t think there is one

My point stands - I think we have better options than CDT and Farrow to group with Duursma but in no way do I think that’s a horrible result.

There are no options at 13 for a midfielder - which is why we need to be using 2 to get one. Split it or not - Dyson Sharp and/or Sam Cumming should be Eagles next year if we are at all serious at climbing above the bottom 4 at some point. Duursma is absolutely who we should be picking with 1 but ending up with CDT and Farrow is not a decent outcome, it's a disaster.

Ending up with Duursma/CDT/Farrow + our FS/NGAs means a side that finished rock bottom with 1 win and the worst midifeld in the comp, addresses that by drafting 2 outside mids, a ruckman, a HBF and 3 mid sized/small forwards.

Hardly a pretty decent outcome.

 

[txbyhull]

Would you’s do a deal with Melbourne


Melbourne trade out pick 8+Gold Coast F1
For
West cost F1 + pick 13

At pick 8 West Coast could take another wa boy in Jacob Farrow or a Dyson Sharp

I really don’t want to be mean but what on earth are you smoking mate

 

[Elite Pete]

I hate the 2 for 5 and 15 deal.

The only worry I could see is not getting Sharp at 5 though is of the Crows get 9 + 11 from the Blues and trade up to the Tigers 4. Tigers still might get Grlj at 9 and something else.

I have heard the Crows pivot if they missed out on NAS was to get Sharp.

I understand Cumming is there at 5 then but still not sure that is the play.