List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[txbyhull]

I think we’ve comprehensively covered cdt and sharp on here. Who do posters ‘not’ want from our top 3 picks? I would pass on Robey (unless he is pick 13), xtaylor (backman), Greeves (need defensive runners with Reid in our midfield). I haven’t added farrow and otaylor as I see them with scope to play out of the backline.

I’m just excited to bring in better talent than what is currently on our list.

At 2 I’d pretty much be ruling out anyone that’s name isn’t Duff-Tytler, Robey or Sharp. At 13 I don’t not want Farrow, but I’m iffy on wanting him. Definitely don’t want Greeves he’s the last character I’d be drafting, I like NHH but we’d probably ruin his development like we would’ve Murphy Reid’s. Also read some people wanting Sumner-Pickett at 13, too early for me. Read some plodder write we’d pick LSP at 13 with Dovaston still on the board and I almost had a stroke

 

[stallon]

Waterman Shanahan forward

Reid baz rucks

Young Edwards back

So are we playing 3 rucks which would likely mean 3 talls forward a lot, or does baz fall out? Reid has to play.

Interested to see what your spine look like.

We would play an extra tall.

Our forward half talls are far more athletic than your typical talls, and with an extra on the bench we could get away with it

 

[Keys]

I hate the 2 for 5 and 15 deal.

The only worry I could see is not getting Sharp at 5 though is of the Crows get 9 + 11 from the Blues and trade up to the Tigers 4. Tigers still might get Grlj at 9 and something else.

I have heard the Crows pivot if they missed out on NAS was to get Sharp.

I understand Cumming is there at 5 then but still not sure that is the play.

Curious as to how the Crows get 9 and 11 when their main assets are 16 and a F1 pick tied to the club that just won the minor premiership (then went out in straight sets admittedly)

They can arguably get 9 with 16 and their F1. Not a chance they get 11 as well

 

[stallon]

Would avoid the wing as it's where young players go to get lost.

Behind the ball to rack up easy touches like North did with Sheezel, has limited utility in my view as well. It's not teaching them much other than having no accountability and uncontested touches. Sure given him spells there if he's not touching it, but, high half forward pushing up into the midfield as a link player is better for long term growth.

We are going to have to put at least 1 young player in the wing, whether its Duursma, Allan, or whoever else.

Maric didnt get lost there, Dewar didnt either

Its not Simmos wing anymore, a lot of young players start there these days and do fine

 

[txbyhull]

Curious as to how the Crows get 9 and 11 when their main assets are 16 and a F1 pick tied to the club that just won the minor premiership (then went out in straight sets admittedly)

They can arguably get 9 with 16 and their F1. Not a chance they get 11 ad well

Been trying to say that for days in one of the draft threads. The fact people think Blues would give up 9 and 11 for 16 and F1 as a flat trade is absolutely insane to me

 

[Elite Pete]

Curious as to how the Crows get 9 and 11 when their main assets are 16 and a F1 pick tied to the club that just won the minor premiership (then went out in straight sets admittedly)

They can arguably get 9 with 16 and their F1. Not a chance they get 11 ad well

That’s the reports. How much substance to them who knows.

I don’t think 9 + 11 for 16 and F1 is that bad. Blues still get Dean and armed with 3 firsts to help get the number 1 kid next year in Walker.

Sounds like teams prefer picks in next years draft.

Issue is it will leave the Blues short of points for Ison if they are wanting and willing to match a decent bid. Maybe a 3rd team gets involved.

 

[MrWoollie]

Would you’s do a deal with Melbourne


Melbourne trade out pick 8+Gold Coast F1
For
West cost F1 + pick 13

At pick 8 West Coast could take another wa boy in Jacob Farrow or a Dyson Sharp

Downgrade 2026 pick 1 or 2 and 2025 13 for 2025 8 and 2026 15-18.

So, downgrade a top 2 pick for pick 8 AND downgrade pick 13 for a late teens.
OR, in 2025 go from 13 to 8 and in 2026 go from 1 or 2 to a late teens.

Worst deal since...

struggling here.

 

[Elite Pete]

Gettable throwing up the 2 + 13 for 5 + 6.

They said more unlikely the Eagles don’t do it but they would throw it out.

If Bombers stay at 5 and 6 Sharp likely for them and Hawks and Eagles are keen.

 

[PRANKSTER666]

Everybody whining that if we don't take an inside midfielder in the draft then we won't improve our midfield which needs serious help yesterday.

That is true, but nobody we draft this year is going to help that next year or even the year after in a serious capacity, that is why we are bringing in the mature age mids in Dev, Fin, Harry etc as a stop gap at worst and hopefully we find one of them to be a long term player.

We also have McCarthy, Baker, Yeo, Kelly, Hewett, Hough, Graham, Hall that can all roll through the midfield.

We can then take best available mid with our likely top 3 pick next year.

So if we rate Duursma and CDT as the best talent then we as a club need to add the best talent possible and can't afford not to get these decisions right in the next two drafts or we will be a basket case for another decade.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Counter offer?

 

[Wooshaaaa]

No it’s not

I said I’d prefer a different outcome - something like Duursma, Sharp/Cumming, Dovaston would be better suited to our needs

But the problem is that this draft doesn’t appear to be particularly rich in midfielders so it’s not a straight forward decision.

Sharp and Cumming are the two highest rated pure midfielders but neither are rated in the best two players like CDT is so either would be a reach with pick 2. Ideally we take advantage of Essendon’s apparent obsession with CDT and get a viable trade return to move from 2 to 5 in order to get Sharp/Cumming plus extras instead of CDT

Happy for you to point out the midfielder around pick 13 we should be looking at - I don’t think there is one

My point stands - I think we have better options than CDT and Farrow to group with Duursma but in no way do I think that’s a horrible result.

Which one are we willing to give up? Duursma or CDT....if we aren't that fussed then putting pick one on the table could get us 5 6 and the dons have to make a decision on who to take. We get the one they don't pick and sharp cumming at 5 6. 1 13 for 5 6 F2

Option 1
1 WC duursma
2 WC CDT
13 ??

No midfielder.

Option 2
1 ess CDT or Duursma
2 WC CDT or Duursma
5 WC sharp
6 WC cumming
2026 F2

 

[Keys]

That’s the reports. How much substance to them who knows.

I don’t think 9 + 11 for 16 and F1 is that bad. Blues still get Dean and armed with 3 firsts to help get the number 1 kid next year in Walker.

Sounds like teams prefer picks in next years draft.

Issue is it will leave the Blues short of points for Ison if they are wanting and willing to match a decent bid. Maybe a 3rd team gets involved.

Let’s assume that Essendon lodge a bid for Dean with their first pick, which would likely be pick 8 after the three northern academy lads have been bid on and matched. Carlton’s picks will then be 12 and 14 and Adelaide’s pushed back to 19

If Carlton don’t trade, they’d lose 12 and 14 but get back pick 18.

If they do the proposed Adelaide trade the F1 makes sense for them in respect to Walker, but pick 19 leaves them about 250 points short on matching the Dean bid and no picks to match an Ison bid

Taking Adelaide’s F1 for one of pick 9 or 11 I can understand, probably 11, but downgrading the other pick at the same time just seems silly

 

[Barrybran]

Gettable throwing up the 2 + 13 for 5 + 6.

They said more unlikely the Eagles don’t do it but they would throw it out.

If Bombers stay at 5 and 6 Sharp likely for them and Hawks and Eagles are keen.

What about something like 2, 13 + F2 for 5, 21 + F1?

 

[Spooky17]

Gettable throwing up the 2 + 13 for 5 + 6.

They said more unlikely the Eagles don’t do it but they would throw it out.

If Bombers stay at 5 and 6 Sharp likely for them and Hawks and Eagles are keen.

To remove all risk, I’d just go Duursma at 1, go on a bidding spree with pick 2, before taking Sharp, and then hoping for a Dovaston type at our third pick. Trading down, whilst has obvious benefits, involves risk that we miss out on our priority target(s). We have the opportunity to take the crème of the crop (admittedly in a supposedly weak draft), let’s just do it with our current picks.

Adding Evans and Banners late would top the draft off perfectly.

Hopefully pick up a mature age state level ruck as a rookie, plus Dev, would go a long way to boosting the quality and depth of our list.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Gettable throwing up the 2 + 13 for 5 + 6.

They said more unlikely the Eagles don’t do it but they would throw it out.

If Bombers stay at 5 and 6 Sharp likely for them and Hawks and Eagles are keen.

I've always been under the assumption that 2 and 13 would get us 5 and 6. What would be wrong with that? Especially if the club would prefer to take a mid over a forward/ruck.

Clarke and the Donald for about a month...especially now that we got the added Oz compo have said they'll take best talent available. So they may just do the bog standard Eagles boring thing and just take CDT anyway and all this mental masturbation was for nothing.

 

[Dale Doback]

The highlight at 1.40 he crumbs a spoiled mark on half back, bursts away with decent speed, takes a bounce and hits a target in the fwd 50 on the chest with a 40m pass

Did you mean some other highlight?

Your eye's must be painted on. There's kids on my son's year 8 team that can kick better than that on the run, while running faster.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

If we don't take Sharp or Cumming my assumption is that the Eagles have looked to next year and the year after's crop, and believe the midfield talent is better. Plus hopefully Warner and natural development of the mids we have.

 

[pantskyle]

Would happily do 5 and 6 for 2 and 13. The glorious three top ten picks.

 

[southcoast]

To remove all risk, I’d just go Duursma at 1, go on a bidding spree with pick 2, before taking Sharp, and then hoping for a Dovaston type at our third pick. Trading down, whilst has obvious benefits, involves risk that we miss out on our priority target(s). We have the opportunity to take the crème of the crop (admittedly in a supposedly weak draft), let’s just do it with our current picks.

Adding Evans and Banners late would top the draft off perfectly.

Hopefully pick up a mature age state level ruck as a rookie, plus Dev, would go a long way to boosting the quality and depth of our list.

This I like - keep it simple and grab what we want without being too clever.

 

[ronpingwins]

2024 Coates Talent League: Round 18 POTW

Emerging Calder Cannons tall Cooper Duff-Tytler is our Coates Talent League Player of the Week after a remarkable performance in Round 18.

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Did this actually happen last year? Don't remember hearing about this, maybe we just haven't seen him ruck for long enough this year. It does seem a lot less players dominating the Coates league this year.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

2024 Coates Talent League: Round 18 POTW

Emerging Calder Cannons tall Cooper Duff-Tytler is our Coates Talent League Player of the Week after a remarkable performance in Round 18.

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Did this actually happen last year? Don't remember hearing about this, maybe we just haven't seen him ruck for long enough this year. It does seem a lot less players dominating the Coates league this year.

At 199cm, Duff-Tytler is dominant aerially and incredibly mobile

He hasn't grown since last year?

 

[bradz]

Would happily do 5 and 6 for 2 and 13. The glorious three top ten picks.

Id be happy with this but think we'll need to get that 13 down to 9 for Essendon to take it. We need to trade with Carlton for that to happen. 5 and 6 for 2 and 9 if fair....if fair is what we are after.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

I actually wouldn't mind 2 and 13 for 5 and 6, so interesting to hear that it would get rejected. An upgrade on that would be even better - maybe 2, 13, 34 for 5,6, 15/21?

 

[Peptide Pig]

I was genuinely wondering what highlight you were referring to. The one at 1.40 isnt at all how you described it. Thought you might have meant another

It wasn’t my original post that you replied to but as someone else mentioned it might be the previous kick around 1:35. He hardly looks like a ball butcher but there is a bit of a dinky ball drop, similar to Ginbey which catches him out occasionally but he has other weapons to make up for it.

Yet every year in finals when the game slows down, the clubs that are still going at the business end have players that can win the contest.View attachment 2470558

Not sure it’s that strong of a correlation when less than half of those players played finals.

 

[pantskyle]

Id be happy with this but think we'll need to get that 13 down to 9 for Essendon to take it. We need to trade with Carlton for that to happen. 5 and 6 for 2 and 9 if fair....if fair is what we are after.

It's not us chasing the deal though, it would be Dons targeting pick 2. So we don't need to do anything more for them.