Draft Thread

[theorangeapple]

The difference between 190cm and 192cm is obviously minimal. However, if you are manning a bloke like Brown, being around 196cm is a big advantage. Its all in the reach. Some players have a reach advantage over the average player of their height others have a disadvantage. Mundy may be 191cm but if he had a reach advantage of 4cm then he would be nearly as good as 195cm.

Drum should be a good player for you guys, he will play alot of AFL footy. I am not sure he really fits your needs (didnt CC say earlier in the year he planned on improving the midfield through the trade and draft period?) and as everyone has noted, he sounds like a Mundy clone. It will be interesting to see what happens with Mundy because he is really suited to being a 3rd tall defender. It allows him to zone off and attack with the ball out of defence. While everyone is saying he is 191cm and tall enough to play key position, I think that giving him the responsibility to man a bloke like Brown would reduce his scope to run off and do what he does best. I also dont think he is proven in that complete shut down role, he has always been that attacking defender of half back type. I like Mundy (mainly because my best mate is his biggest fan) and will be interested to see which path the match committee choses for him.

 

[theGav56]

The difference between 190cm and 192cm is obviously minimal. However, if you are manning a bloke like Brown, being around 196cm is a big advantage. Its all in the reach. Some players have a reach advantage over the average player of their height others have a disadvantage. Mundy may be 191cm but if he had a reach advantage of 4cm then he would be nearly as good as 195cm.

Drum should be a good player for you guys, he will play alot of AFL footy. I am not sure he really fits your needs (didnt CC say earlier in the year he planned on improving the midfield through the trade and draft period?) and as everyone has noted, he sounds like a Mundy clone. It will be interesting to see what happens with Mundy because he is really suited to being a 3rd tall defender. It allows him to zone off and attack with the ball out of defence. While everyone is saying he is 191cm and tall enough to play key position, I think that giving him the responsibility to man a bloke like Brown would reduce his scope to run off and do what he does best. I also dont think he is proven in that complete shut down role, he has always been that attacking defender of half back type. I like Mundy (mainly because my best mate is his biggest fan) and will be interested to see which path the match committee choses for him.

Agree with what your saying about height and reach. But gee, why you would want to lock a player as talented as Mundy into third tall defender at his age is beyond me. Definitely depends on the match-ups and individual needs. He doesn't have to play on Brown if he isn't the best player for him. The best way that teams beat a player like Brown is through a team effort. Can't see any reason why Mundy couldn't become an excellent FB if that was the need and best option for him, or move up forward. Having Drum in the team adds to Mundy's flexibility, not detract from it.

Not sure where our midfiled solutions come from short term except Haselby, Walker, Schammer, big Carr fitter, a couple of others lifting in form (Headland). Perhaps Dunn showing something. The other key to our midfiled is of course Sandilands development.

 

[theorangeapple]

Agree with what your saying about height and reach. But gee, why you would want to lock a player as talented as Mundy into third tall defender at his age is beyond me. Definitely depends on the match-ups and individual needs. He doesn't have to play on Brown if he isn't the best player for him. The best way that teams beat a player like Brown is through a team effort. Can't see any reason why Mundy couldn't become an excellent FB if that was the need and best option for him, or move up forward. Having Drum in the team adds to Mundy's flexibility, not detract from it.

Nothing wrong with Mundy being a 3rd tall type, there is no shame in putting him there. I think having lesser opponent would be very beneficial in that he can run off and create play. He might very well be a very good full back but you will lose alot of his creativity having him following around a FF all day. He also has a tendancy to zone off, you cannot zone off on a bloke who is a sides go to player (Brown, Tredrea et al) sides will pick that player out every time.

 

[newlander77]

I'd like to see him rotated through the midfield more regularly to be honest. He straightens the whole side up, he's very direct when running through the centre.

 

[theGav56]

Nothing wrong with Mundy being a 3rd tall type, there is no shame in putting him there. I think having lesser opponent would be very beneficial in that he can run off and create play. He might very well be a very good full back but you will lose alot of his creativity having him following around a FF all day. He also has a tendancy to zone off, you cannot zone off on a bloke who is a sides go to player (Brown, Tredrea et al) sides will pick that player out every time.

Mathew Scarlett seems to do just fine being the number 1 defender as well as being a creative and attacking force from the backline. I'm sure Mundy would be zoning off because that is the task he has been set by the coaching staff rather than a style of play he is locked into. They are using his abilityh to read the play.

My main point is that you seem to be offering the thought that Drum is a "Mundy clone" as a criticism of the drafting. In reality I think both players have a pretty fair degree of adaptability in regards to where they may play and how they may be used. If Drum is similar to Mundy then we will have the pair of them as a springboard from the backline setting up attacking forays. I look forward to that.

 

[wehavethepassion]

Nothing wrong with Mundy being a 3rd tall type, there is no shame in putting him there. I think having lesser opponent would be very beneficial in that he can run off and create play. He might very well be a very good full back but you will lose alot of his creativity having him following around a FF all day. He also has a tendancy to zone off, you cannot zone off on a bloke who is a sides go to player (Brown, Tredrea et al) sides will pick that player out every time.

Darth Vader did it all the time when at the Slime. Mckenna would get the weakest forward to allow him to create from HB.

 

[theorangeapple]

Darth Vader did it all the time when at the Slime. Mckenna would get the weakest forward to allow him to create from HB.

Yeh I know, and it worked. There is nothing wrong with that either.

My main point is that you seem to be offering the thought that Drum is a "Mundy clone" as a criticism of the drafting. In reality I think both players have a pretty fair degree of adaptability in regards to where they may play and how they may be used. If Drum is similar to Mundy then we will have the pair of them as a springboard from the backline setting up attacking forays. I look forward to that.

I wasnt criticising your drafting, I think Drum will play alot of AFL football and be a very good player. However, I am perhaps questioning your drafting in the context of CC's comments that he would be looking to add running midfielders in the draft and trade period. Maybe that was the plan but there were none available, which I would agree with. There were not alot of quick onballers available at 10 of the quality of Drum. In an ideal world, I think someone like Dale Thomas would have been ideal. Add pace, flair and goal kicking to your midfield. Stupid comment because he obviously went at #2 but I think someone like him would have been better suited than Drum.