List Mgmt. Draft Watch 2015

[fabs33]

Not sure if has been posted?

It says in that tweet we may bid on him IF we don't get a tall at pick 9, does that mean bidding on academy players happens during the draft?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

It says in that tweet we may bid on him IF we don't get a tall at pick 9, does that mean bidding on academy players happens during the draft?

Correct ....happens live, with clubs in backroom working out the implications of revised draft order if accepted by the academy aligned AFL club

Going to be somewhat confusing on the night in the first year

Big question will be if top 10 clubs will dummy bid to ensure the GWS, Sydney and Brisbane pay full amount ....rather than get a cheapy like Heeney last year

 

[baldandbroke]

Here is a summary of Draft Ratings of a few of the scribes ... I've included in what I could find without too much searching, but happy to add any other lists (or fix some I have in here) if anyone posts them. Also happy to change the criteria or the sort based on different variables that anyone thinks works better.

It's just sorted by a simple weighted average, so it isn't a very deep analysis


<EDIT> added in some rudimentary weighting.
Sando / Buck / Anderson < Champ Data < Skippos / Nightmare

 

[WaynesWorld19]

"The Greater Western Sydney academy product has already spoken to a handful of AFL clubs including Adelaide, Fremantle and Melbourne, who all travelled to Canberra to interview him."

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news...-enhance-afl-draft-hopes-20151012-gk6vvr.html

Does that mean GWS may not have enough points in the bank to get all of :
Hopper
Kennedy
& Himmelberg???

I know GWS can dig into next years draft to secure the points ......but do they want to given the strength next year?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Here is a summary of Draft Ratings of a few of the scribes ... I've included in what I could find without too much searching, but happy to add any other lists (or fix some I have in here) if anyone posts them. Also happy to change the criteria or the sort based on different variables that anyone thinks works better.

It's just sorted by average, so it isn't a very deep analysis

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WAY WAY too much time on your hands

 

[simmo97]

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 5h5 hours ago

Academy bids are going to be talking point of #AFLDraft. Not ruling out Crows bidding on Himmelberg at 13 if they don't land tall at 9.

https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF

 

[dogs105]

Correct ....happens live, with clubs in backroom working out the implications of revised draft order if accepted by the academy aligned AFL club

Going to be somewhat confusing on the night in the first year

Big question will be if top 10 clubs will dummy bid to ensure the GWS, Sydney and Brisbane pay full amount ....rather than get a cheapy like Heeney last year

Carlton should bid 1 for Mills! Sydney logically and rationally cannot not match. Would you rather have a top 3 talent, or heaps of picks in the 40s?

Would put Sydney into points deficit straight away, and move all their remaining picks to the end of this draft.

The only reason not to is that it would be a complete campaigner of a thing to do.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 5h5 hours ago

Academy bids are going to be talking point of #AFLDraft. Not ruling out Crows bidding on Himmelberg at 13 if they don't land tall at 9.

https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF

There's continuing whispers on us connected with tall KPP

 

[dogs105]

There's continuing whispers on us connected with tall KPP

Would you class Francis as 3rd tall material?

Any growth possibly left in him???

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Carlton should bid 1 for Mills! Sydney logically and rationally cannot not match. Would you rather have a top 3 talent, or heaps of picks in the 40s?

Would put Sydney into points deficit straight away, and move all their remaining picks to the end of this draft.

The only reason not to is that it would be a complete campaigner of a thing to do.

The reason GWS traded out of first round was the points value of later picks in the 40's ......The Acadamy clubs have calculated how many mid draft picks are required to have enoughpoints for players like Mills

Mills , Hopper in particular will be bid on in the first 6 picks ......and Sydney/GWS have assumed this in their points accumulation

 

[Pdub]

Be interesting to see just how much better a chance the future Grigg/Lyon/Kerridge etc etc get now that they won't be wearing green and playing for 20 minutes before going back into the SANFL for another month.

Strongly believe the green vest has really stunted the development of a number of young players.

Yep also prematurely ended the careers of people like Johncock and Porplyzia.

 

[Samcro24]

Who the **** is Himmelberg?

The dude from breaking bad?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Would you class Francis as 3rd tall material?

Any growth possibly left in him???

Wouldn't think the club would review Francis as a KPP ......he may have 1-2cm growth in him ...but he may also be like Sellar and be an early developer?

Conceivable we go Francis and Tall KPP ......Francis gives any team enormous flexibility & has played well as a mid

Milera just oozes class ......very similar to that Brisbane player who just went to Collingwood, but an better version IMO

I am confident whoever we get at 9 will be fantastic .....#13 is the big unknown ?

 

[baldandbroke]

WAY WAY too much time on your hands

Nah, just a few VLookups on an Excel spreadsheet. About 10 minutes to whack together. We all need to take breaks throughout the day from the grind right?

 

[Vader]

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 5h5 hours ago

Academy bids are going to be talking point of #AFLDraft. Not ruling out Crows bidding on Himmelberg at 13 if they don't land tall at 9.

https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF

I wonder if he's getting Himmelberg confused with Eric Hipwood - the Brisbane academy player who is expected to be selected around the 9-13 range?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I wonder if he's getting Himmelberg confused with Eric Hipwood - the Brisbane academy player who is expected to be selected around the 9-13 range?

Not as enthusiastic about Hipwood?.....191cm
In that case give me Burton

 

[huludicidal]

Not as enthusiastic about Hipwood?.....191cm
In that case give me Burton

Hipwood is 203cm

 

[premiershipvigil]

Not as enthusiastic about Hipwood?.....191cm
In that case give me Burton

I rate Francis best player in the draft given his size, marking ability and reading the play not to mention great long kick. Do you think there is anyone more versatile than Francis?

 

[Grooster24]

Cameron McCarthy MK2

Looks to me like The Futcha MkII. Even has that stupid top knot / man bun that you see with powa hipsters.

 

[Vader]

Not as enthusiastic about Hipwood?.....191cm
In that case give me Burton

I don't know. Just know that Hipwood is widely tipped to go somewhere in the vicinity of Adelaide's picks... Himmelberg is tipped to go in the 2nd round.

Just speculating he may have made a mistake, based on similar sounding names. Maybe...

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Hipwood is 203cm

Sorry got the two players height mixed up ......191cm Himmelberg then is a completely different kettle of fish ?

Would you at the same height prefer Burton or Himmelberg?

Gee i thought at 203 cm ......that would have been a get

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I don't know. Just know that Hipwood is widely tipped to go somewhere in the vicinity of Adelaide's picks... Himmelberg is tipped to go in the 2nd round.

Just speculating he may have made a mistake, based on similar sounding names. Maybe...

sounds like a mistake to me

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I rate Francis best player in the draft given his size, marking ability and reading the play not to mention great long kick. Do you think there is anyone more versatile than Francis?

Probably would put Curnow and Francis on equal billing in terms of flexibility

 

[Bicks]

Not so keen on Himmelberg, not in the same street as Hipwood, McKay or Collins IMO.

I'd even take Ben McKay before Himmelberg personally if we are going a tall.

P.S. Don't consider, Burton, Curnow or Francis as Talls personally.

 

[premiershipvigil]

Probably would put Curnow and Francis on equal billing in terms of flexibility

I just don't see Curnow anyway close to the level of Francis. Reminds me of Hodge.