List Mgmt. Draft Watch 2015

[Sanders]

When are we having our annual big footy awards, I would like a new category, ******** of the Year......

I don't think we need to wait to anoint the victor

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think Curnow will still go top 7 so he won't be available. Milera I'm hoping.
13 it really is a large group. Wait and see I guess.

Milera has been linked to GC for a long while now ......still strong possibility

If that happens it depends on Essendon as to whether they prefer Francis or Curnow

Burton if his medical was bad would be drifting on the back of industry leaks ......he's not, so every chance we'll take him

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Still finding it difficult to see Oliver elevated all the way to pick 3 .......

 

[MRB37]

I think Curnow will still go top 7 so he won't be available. Milera I'm hoping.
13 it really is a large group. Wait and see I guess.

To Carlton if someone snaps up Mckay early.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Can't help but feel that Cam has gone the old "will pick SA players" approach with us. Milera makes sense and he rightly point out that overlooking Curnow will take some balls.

I have voiced my concerns on Burton a number of times. He scares the shit out of me and I wouldn't have the guts to pick him. Talent wise be is a steal at 9 let alone 13 but that knee worries me in a major way and we simply cannot afford to get this draft wrong. We simply MUST pick 2 stars and 200 game players.

If we draft Burton I will trust the rectuiting guys but it doesn't mean that I won't have heart in my mouth every time he flies up for a mark or gets tackled. But if it pays off **** ME.....JACKPOT!

 

[CrowHop]

My fault didn't make it super clear.

Fingers crossed for Milera and Burton/Collins/Mckay

Milera and Collins is likely and I think that'd be a good result for us.

 

[RePete]

Honestly would not mind Collins with our 2nd pick. Just comes across as a player that will become a good defender in the AFL, had same feeling about Goddard last year and he is looking the goods.

With some very top heavy forward lines out there ie Tippett, Franklin .... Hawkins, Clarke etc I reckon it wouldn't hurt to have another gun KPD. Hartigan showed great signs end of this year but if he starts having brain farts regularly again our defense will be a major weakness. We have Shaw, Otten and Cheney to can fill holes so I doubt we will go for Collins but regardless, wouldn't mind if we did.

We have plenty of HBF's and small defenders now.

We are fine for rucks.

We are badly lacking key forwards. We should draft a genuine key forward. Preferbly with rookie selection.

I would go for a hard running mid / flanker, i.e. Milera. Someone who can almost be like Hawthorns Hill, adds that extra yard of pace making your whole team more dangerous. Then I would go for an genuine inside mid or inside/outside mid, or even a tall mid.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Can't help but feel that Cam has gone the old "will pick SA players" approach with us. Milera makes sense and he rightly point out that overlooking Curnow will take some balls.

I have voiced my concerns on Burton a number of times. He scares the shit out of me and I wouldn't have the guts to pick him. Talent wise be is a steal at 9 let alone 13 but that knee worries me in a major way and we simply cannot afford to get this draft wrong. We simply MUST pick 2 stars and 200 game players.

If we draft Burton I will trust the rectuiting guys but it doesn't mean that I won't have heart in my mouth every time he flies up for a mark or gets tackled. But if it pays off **** ME.....JACKPOT!

I don't it's just the sa thing, both picks made sense, and he did talk about victorians we might pick instead. Others phantoms tend to mention they think Adelaide won't take victorians because of dangerfield rubbish. Twomey never even suggests it could have impact.

 

[gilbp33]

Here's the problem...

• Brad Crouch is perpetually injured. Who knows if/when he'll be able to run to a centre bounce without injuring himself.
• Thompson is likely to retire at the end of 2016.
• CEY, Grigg, Lyons are all quantity - not quality.
• Gore is a complete unknown at this stage.

That leaves Sloane, Douglas and Matt Crouch. Sloane & Douglas are both high quality, but neither are primarily inside midfielders. Both are adept at playing that role, but they're not monster clearance winners in the same class as Dangerfield & Thompson. Matt Crouch is primarily an inside midfielder, but he's still a significant step down from what Dangerfield & Thompson provided.

To put this into context, here are the league rankings & averages for clearances in 2015:
7th - Scott Thompson - 7.19 (clearances per game)
8th - Patrick Dangerfield - 7.17
54th - Rory Sloane - 4.33
58th - Richard Douglas - 4.19
60th - Cam Ellis-Yolmen - 4.09
64th - Matt Crouch - 3.94
100+ - Jarryd Lyons - 2.85

The gulf in class, when it comes to clearances, between Thompson/Dangerfield and the rest of our list, is as wide as the Pacific Ocean.

Long on quantity... desperately short on quality.

Agree Vader that a good inside mid is a need, but who do you suggest we take? Mathieson is the one that prob will be available, but will he be good enough? Tough to answer, but i think the exposed form of players in other areas (i.e. Milera + Collins), will lead to us picking these types, and look at next year to find a better inside option than a Mathieson...

 

[mattymac]

We're not drafting another tall defender surely?

Dangerfield gone, Thompson on his last legs, doubts over B Crouch's durability.

Surely to goodness we're taking the two best midfielders we can.

The noble thing to do would be to re-rookie Wright as midfield depth and take an interstate tall, preferably a twin with homesickness, that we can trade back to a Victorian club for a pick in the 20s in 2 years

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

The two latest phantom's have had curnow sliding, I'm now genuinely concerned this kid has buggered up our draft, and may stop from getting Milera/Mckay.

 

[Matman23]

We hear a lot about how Franklin, Selwood and Judd successfully overcome their pre-draft injury concerns. But are there any players who have failed due to pre-existing injuries rather than just not being up to it?

 

[crowsarethebest]

Would be happy with Milera at 9 but we've got to go big at 13 then (Possibly Mckay if he's still there, Collins, Burton). We've already addressed our outside run/flankers, drafting Milera + an Ah Chee or Tucker at 13 would be overkill. We've addressed our outside run with Seed, Hampton and Menzel already. In fact, Milera is probably our least pressing need at the moment, we've got Cameron, Betts and Menzel as our small forward types which is more than enough as we will also rotate midfielders up forward as well.

I believe we should take an inside mid type however there's really no quality ones that are projected to be at around our picks- all have various question marks on them and aren't really that different to what we have. If Curnow slides he'd be perfect as he has that x factor that we lack after Danger has gone, but I think with his indiscretion and his brother being delisted here... it makes it unlikely we'll take him.
We've got a few inside mid types, however the jury is out on all of them- we really really need 2 of CEY, Lyons, Grigg and Gore to stand up this year and make the inside mid role their own- all have been given a chance (apart from Gore) but none of them have really made a spot their own yet. Now or never for them, if we take a Balic/Mathieson with 13 it is sort of a vote of no confidence for that bunch.

 

[NTRabbit]

We hear a lot about how Franklin, Selwood and Judd successfully overcome their pre-draft injury concerns. But are there any players who have failed due to pre-existing injuries rather than just not being up to it?

Sean Rusling springs to mind, pick 23 in the same draft as Franklin and Tambling. Came into the draft with dicky shoulders, injured one again in his first season after a good start in the seniors, and could never get them right again. Always looked good when fit. Retired at only 23.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[mattymac]

Eventually, gives a young forward a few years to develop.
Jenkins is an interesting one, absolute spud at the start of the year (most on here wanted him dropped), then seemed to pull it together towards the end of the year. Could be a really important indicator for how you go next year.

Walsh made him into a man (as much ofa man as a basketballer could be)

 

[mattymac]

Twomey had been strong on Milera being a flight risk for interstate clubs since the interview stage. Now names us taking him at 9.

Get the fukk in

 

[Glenny83]

Twomey had been strong on Milera being a flight risk for interstate clubs since the interview stage. Now names us taking him at 9.

Get the fukk in

Get right in!

 

[the universal]

Twomey had been strong on Milera being a flight risk for interstate clubs since the interview stage. Now names us taking him at 9.

Get the fukk in

Clearly wants to play for the Crows. His favourite team.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Twomey had been strong on Milera being a flight risk for interstate clubs since the interview stage. Now names us taking him at 9.

Get the fukk in

If he is such a flight risk then he should be available at 13 as well!

 

[Thetrader15]

There is a clear top 9 (exc academy players) and we will get whoever is left

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If he is such a flight risk then he should be available at 13 as well!

And if Weideman's athletic testing is so bad to overlook him at #3 ......then why pick him at #7?

And isn't Francis meant to have a bigger go home than Milera?

If Curnow was a lock at #3 a week ago ....how is it that he's a possibility for us now at #9?

 

[Gets!]

Just re watched all of Mileras highlights - yes please.

 

[mattymac]

If he is such a flight risk then he should be available at 13 as well!

Balls of steel or thick as pig shit
to overlook him at 9!

 

[Draft Bored]

If Curnow was a lock at #3 a week ago ....how is it that he's a possibility for us now at #9?

It's pretty obvious why; football ability is only half the story.

Clubs take sometimes 4 recruiters and even a pyschologist to interview players. They interview their parents as well to evaluate their upbringing. Everything matters.

I wouldn't be touching Curnow with a first round pick regardless of his talent. Guy must be a certified douchebag and/or dumbass.