Eagles 2015 team

[swannies]

So was mcginnity

Oh and the most recent brownlow medallist

I thought McGinnity was picked up in the PSD, not RD?

 

[Johnno22]

We were only 1 game away from finals this year... if we had won 2 more we may have made it more than a week into finals too. A few rookie success stories doesn't change the fact that many (most?) rookies never play a single senior AFL game.

I would be interested to know if anyone has an official statistic on just how many Rookie picks actually play 20 games.

I would guess that less than 5% actually do but I might be way out on this?

 

[Johnno22]

Not sure how you can put Main in with the other three. Even Tunbridge has been on an AFL list since early 2011. That's a long time.

I would be willing to bet that with the new WAFL alignment with EP the duds will be weeded out more quickly and time on our list greatly reduced.

 

[Longwthebreeze]

Theres a lot of positives going into the 2015 season. Mainly to do with a settled gameplan, coaching staff, East Perth alignment and a fit list (fingers crossed!)
Really excited to see:
- The comeback of Beau Waters, at his best a lock at HBF and a fearless leader. Can he get back to his best?
- Full pre-seasons and the flow on of confidence from NicNat, McGovern, Shep, Bennell & Lecca (still plenty to give)
- The use of Yeo. HBF changing thru mid? Mainly mid? Rest forward to mix it up? The bloke looks ready to explode.
- The use of Gov. Leave him mainly at CHB for another season or more swingman? Massive upside.
- Can Wellingham find form, confidence and his place in the team? At his best will be a real asset.
- The speculative rookies- Adamson & Brophy, how close to AFL level are they? A big talking point of 2015. (for us anyway)
- The youngsters development- Waterman, pick 11, Sheed & Karpany. (Im so excited to see Karpany in action but I don't really know why!?)
- Can any of Tunbridge, Colledge, Sheppard, Cripps, Sinclair or Newman have breakout seasons. They may need to.
- The more play-on, attacking gameplan becoming second nature to our boys and the resulting goals, closing out some games...?

Bring it on donkey kong!!!!

 

[Jarlcorbz]

Despite NN having another injury hampered season, his highlights are still pretty amazing

http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/team/players/player-reviews/player-review---nic-naitanui

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I thought McGinnity was picked up in the PSD, not RD?

Correct. He was pick 7 in the 2008 Pre-Season Draft

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Newman, and McInnes from the draft of 2011 Colledge from the draft of 2012 need to show something this year or seriously risk delisting.

Colledge - if he is the big bodied midfielder, then start giving him game time and an extended go.

McInnes had a decent finish to the WAFL season so hoping he is ready to jump up like McGovern did this year. Playing 2 ruckmen will hopefully give him more opportunities. We already know that Sinclair is OK as a pinch hitter but his accuracy in front of goals (or lack there of) means I have little time to trial him as a KPP up front.

we will have sufficient players with their careers on the line in 2015 that I hoping it will make a difference. We may even get something from the Clown Prince Wellingham. First KPI for the list manager will be the number of times that he end up in teh social columns!!

 

[Dark Sharks]

I predict Sharrod will come out and play an exceptional game, then tell the media "yeah i've fixed my problems, it was a work rate thing, i've lifted......"

Only to be dropped the following week for gathering a mere 13 disposals.

Mark it down.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I predict Sharrod will come out and play an exceptional game, then tell the media "yeah i've fixed my problems, it was a work rate thing, i've lifted......"

Only to be dropped the following week for gathering a mere 13 disposals.

Mark it down.

And it all looks so much better in psychedelic boots. If you want to look like a clown, better not play like one!

 

[Milenko]

Newman, and McInnes from the draft of 2011 Colledge from the draft of 2012 need to show something this year or seriously risk delisting.

Colledge - if he is the big bodied midfielder, then start giving him game time and an extended go.

McInnes had a decent finish to the WAFL season so hoping he is ready to jump up like McGovern did this year. Playing 2 ruckmen will hopefully give him more opportunities. We already know that Sinclair is OK as a pinch hitter but his accuracy in front of goals (or lack there of) means I have little time to trial him as a KPP up front.

we will have sufficient players with their careers on the line in 2015 that I hoping it will make a difference. We may even get something from the Clown Prince Wellingham. First KPI for the list manager will be the number of times that he end up in teh social columns!!

College & Sheed to start in the centre bounces in the NAB Cup or GTFO.

 

[Dark Sharks]

College & Sheed to start in the centre bounces in the NAB Cup or GTFO.

With Yeo. Who's playing Ruck.

 

[SpaceClef]

Newman, and McInnes from the draft of 2011 Colledge from the draft of 2012 need to show something this year or seriously risk delisting.

Colledge - if he is the big bodied midfielder, then start giving him game time and an extended go.

Colledge only just turned 20.

He's actually only 14 months older than Christian Petracca.

Let's give him a little bit of time to grow into the midfield role that he's only just taken up this year?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Colledge only just turned 20.

He's actually only 14 months older than Christian Petracca.

Let's give him a little bit of time to grow into the midfield role that he's only just taken up this year?

Happy to have some patience. This will be Colledge's 3rd pre-season and expect him to have better strength and improved tank. I would also like to tell the selectors "Start picking him and then let him have a sustained run at it". That is some of the frustration behind our inability to blood new players. At times our flat track bully label is correct - we seem to want to pick the strongest sides against the lower level clubs when in reality they should be giving them more of a chance.

So good call on Colledge to give some more time, but the selection of him needs to be accelerated. Trial him early and not just NAB Cup.

 

[Chris_6678]

Happy to have some patience. This will be Colledge's 3rd pre-season and expect him to have better strength and improved tank. I would also like to tell the selectors "Start picking him and then let him have a sustained run at it". That is some of the frustration behind our inability to blood new players. At times our flat track bully label is correct - we seem to want to pick the strongest sides against the lower level clubs when in reality they should be giving them more of a chance.

So good call on Colledge to give some more time, but the selection of him needs to be accelerated. Trial him early and not just NAB Cup.

Would love to see more of College but who would he replace our mids all fit and firing? He would be wasted up front and as sub like they have been doing with Tunbridge.

 

[SpaceClef]

Happy to have some patience. This will be Colledge's 3rd pre-season and expect him to have better strength and improved tank. I would also like to tell the selectors "Start picking him and then let him have a sustained run at it". That is some of the frustration behind our inability to blood new players. At times our flat track bully label is correct - we seem to want to pick the strongest sides against the lower level clubs when in reality they should be giving them more of a chance.

So good call on Colledge to give some more time, but the selection of him needs to be accelerated. Trial him early and not just NAB Cup.

Totally. Couldn't agree more. We are too reluctant to force our fringe players to prove themselves, instead allowing them 4 or 5 years in the WAFL, playing 1 or 2 AFL games as the sub here or there. This makes us more reluctant to cut the list deep enough, which results in us backing in the same 22 players and expecting them to be the ones to win us a flag.

Instead of having a constant energetic cycle of prospective talent being pushed to improve or pushed out, we've had a relatively stable two-tier squad, with a pretty fixed A-team, and a bunch of reserve players ready to cover injuries.

We have managed our list like we are a top 2 team. I'd much rather have finished 12th but given decent chunks of game time to Colledge, Sheed, Tunbridge and Maginness.

inb4 - 'you can't throw the kids to the wolves, they need protection, every other club waits until their draftees are at least 22 before giving them extended game time'

 

[SpaceClef]

Would love to see more of College but who would he replace our mids all fit and firing? He would be wasted up front and as sub like they have been doing with Tunbridge.

McGinnity, Hill and Butler all played a number of games. No reason why we couldn't shuffle our current mids around to give Colledge some more game time.

Plus, didn't someone here say we had one of the worst injury lists this year? I would have thought we could find some room for him.

 

[Keys]

McGinnity, Hill and Butler all played a number of games. No reason why we couldn't shuffle our current mids around to give Colledge some more game time.

Plus, didn't someone here say we had one of the worst injury lists this year? I would have thought we could find some room for him.

My recollection might be off but it seemed to me that when injuries to senior players opened up a spot colledge was also injured. It was the same with tunbridge to an extent as well.

 

[Chris_6678]

McGinnity, Hill and Butler all played a number of games. No reason why we couldn't shuffle our current mids around to give Colledge some more game time.

Plus, didn't someone here say we had one of the worst injury lists this year? I would have thought we could find some room for him.

Butler played mainly down back, Hill up front and Mginnity yeah could easily make room. Yeo, Scooter & Wellingham will all back in if they are fine from their injury/form concerns from 2014. I just hope he is tried out in the center during the NAB cup for all games so he can force his way into the team if he is doing it well.

 

[Marlin01]

My recollection might be off but it seemed to me that when injuries to senior players opened up a spot colledge was also injured. It was the same with tunbridge to an extent as well.

Yeah. When he broke his jaw in the clash with Lycett.

 

[SpaceClef]

Butler played mainly down back, Hill up front and Mginnity yeah could easily make room. Yeo, Scooter & Wellingham will all back in if they are fine from their injury/form concerns from 2014. I just hope he is tried out in the center during the NAB cup for all games so he can force his way into the team if he is doing it well.

Yeah but there's no reason why Butler down back couldn't be replaced by Selwood or Hutchings, or why Hill up front couldn't be replaced by Masten (or Colledge).

We're supposed to be about flexibility and rotations - our midfield doesn't need to be the same handful of people every single game.

But I get your point.

It just seems like the attitude on here is often:
"We need better midfielders!"
"Ok why don't we give player x a try?"
"But who would he replace?"

 

[Keys]

B: Bennell, mckenzie, McGovern
HB : hurn, brown, yeo
C: gaff, Priddis, rosa
HF : masten, darling, cripps
F: lecras, kennedy, Lycett
R: naitanui, selwood, shuey
I: Schofield, Ellis, Sheppard, wellingham

Not selected:
Waters - comes in if fit replacing Sheppard or wellingham
Butler - depth only now to cover injury
Sheed - needs to be given game time if other mids are injured and WAFL form warrants selection
Tunbridge - same as sheed
Colledge- same as sheed
Sinclair - plays if either Naitanui or Lycett are unavailable
Mcinnes - cover for kennedy and darling
Mcginnity - I'd be happy if he played the year for the royals. Younger players should be given preference
Karpany - needs to focus on getting regular games in the seniors at east perth. Would love to seem him earn a couple of games in Eagles colours
Waterman - same as Karpany
Main - like Karpany needs to hold a place in the royals league team
Barass - hopefully is over his injuries and strings some games together
Hutchings - decent depth and will be fighting with the likes of sheed for game time
Hill - cover for lecras really and competition for cripps
Pick 11,32,51,69, adamson, Brophy - focus should be on consistent WAFL form

Newman - needs a big preseason and reestablish himself at WAFL level
Maginness - hopefully can continue on his progression from last year
Powell - needs game time even if most of it will likely be in east perth ressies

There's not really much in the way of established quality outside of the 22

 

[SpaceClef]

My recollection might be off but it seemed to me that when injuries to senior players opened up a spot colledge was also injured. It was the same with tunbridge to an extent as well.

That's the thing though - it takes the planets aligning for a kid to get a call up, and even then they usually end up as the emergency.

We are not debuting enough players for our position in the competition. Maybe I'm being hysterical about it. But our senior players are not even helping us make the 8, so why should they be so immune to being replaced that it takes an injury to give a kid a shot?

 

[SpaceClef]

B: Bennell, mckenzie, McGovern
HB : hurn, brown, yeo
C: gaff, Priddis, rosa
HF : masten, darling, cripps
F: lecras, kennedy, Lycett
R: naitanui, selwood, shuey
I: Schofield, Ellis, Sheppard, wellingham

Not selected:
Waters - comes in if fit replacing Sheppard or wellingham
Butler - depth only now to cover injury
Sheed - needs to be given game time if other mids are injured and WAFL form warrants selection
Tunbridge - same as sheed
Colledge- same as sheed
Sinclair - plays if either Naitanui or Lycett are unavailable
Mcinnes - cover for kennedy and darling
Mcginnity - I'd be happy if he played the year for the royals. Younger players should be given preference
Karpany - needs to focus on getting regular games in the seniors at east perth. Would love to seem him earn a couple of games in Eagles colours
Waterman - same as Karpany
Main - like Karpany needs to hold a place in the royals league team
Barass - hopefully is over his injuries and strings some games together
Hutchings - decent depth and will be fighting with the likes of sheed for game time
Hill - cover for lecras really and competition for cripps
Pick 11,32,51,69, adamson, Brophy - focus should be on consistent WAFL form

Newman - needs a big preseason and reestablish himself at WAFL level
Maginness - hopefully can continue on his progression from last year
Powell - needs game time even if most of it will likely be in east perth ressies

There's not really much in the way of established quality outside of the 22

That's because most of it is 'cover for injuries', which is something you'd expect from Freo or Hawthorn.

It's not just an issue of not giving players a crack early enough, but it's that combined with holding onto the C-grade injury cover for too long, and the two feed into one another.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

B: Bennell, mckenzie, McGovern
HB : hurn, brown, yeo
C: gaff, Priddis, rosa
HF : masten, darling, cripps
F: lecras, kennedy, Lycett
R: naitanui, selwood, shuey
I: Schofield, Ellis, Sheppard, wellingham

Not selected:
Waters - comes in if fit replacing Sheppard or wellingham
Butler - depth only now to cover injury
Sheed - needs to be given game time if other mids are injured and WAFL form warrants selection
Tunbridge - same as sheed
Colledge- same as sheed
Sinclair - plays if either Naitanui or Lycett are unavailable
Mcinnes - cover for kennedy and darling
Mcginnity - I'd be happy if he played the year for the royals. Younger players should be given preference
Karpany - needs to focus on getting regular games in the seniors at east perth. Would love to seem him earn a couple of games in Eagles colours
Waterman - same as Karpany
Main - like Karpany needs to hold a place in the royals league team
Barass - hopefully is over his injuries and strings some games together
Hutchings - decent depth and will be fighting with the likes of sheed for game time
Hill - cover for lecras really and competition for cripps
Pick 11,32,51,69, adamson, Brophy - focus should be on consistent WAFL form

Newman - needs a big preseason and reestablish himself at WAFL level
Maginness - hopefully can continue on his progression from last year
Powell - needs game time even if most of it will likely be in east perth ressies

There's not really much in the way of established quality outside of the 22

Your analysis nailed it in 1. The side you picked is based too heavily on history and past perceptions. When you manage a portfolio (and a list of 40 players into 22 is like a portfolio), you need to think further ahead and not just for this week.

Your interchange is full of 4 half back flankers! Let's face it, Schofield can only handle the 3rd tall so ignore his height, he is a flanker. Who the Flocks sake selects an interchange of 4 half back flankers?

B: Bennell, McKenzie, McGovern
HB: Hurn, Brown, Shepperd
C: Gaff, Priddis, Rosa
HF: Masten, Kennedy, Darling
F: Lecras, Lycett, Colledge
R: Naitanui, Yeo, Shuey
I: Sheed, Ellis, Selwood, Development

Schofield is not needed as much with McGovern down back– depends who we are playing
Cripps and Hill are cover for Lecras or a possible depth as interchange/small forward
Waters – let’s see if he can stay fit
Wellingham – let’s if he can stay fit and focussed and out of the fashion parades
Selwood is the sole tagger of the team – a role he does very well
Lycett/NicNat – play high when resting and they will have less time on the bench since we got two of them
Yeo as a much needed genuine mid with pace. He was being eased into the Lions team as a HBF while most of his earlier football was as a mid
Sheed – now is the time to give more time
Colledge – same as Sheed
Development options
- McInnes – start giving him chances
- Karpany – give him the taste
- Tunbridge – chances but only 3rd in line
- Newman – if elevated and if switched on
Sinclair – cover for rucks
Hutchings – cover for Selwood
Others too early to say

 

[dajesmac]

B: Waters - Mackenzie - Bennell
HB: Hurn - Brown - Schofield
C: Cockatoo - Shuey - Yeo
HF: Masten - McGovern - Newman
FF: LeCras - Kennedy - Darling

R: Naitanui - Priddis - Selwood

I: Gaff - Rosa - Ellis - Lycett

E: Sheppard - Hutchings - Wellingham