Eagles to Trade

[QL 21]

Interested to hear from an opposition supporter.

Who would prefer? Carrazzo or Bentick?

I'm probably not the best person to answer that, haven't watched many Carlton games this year.

From what I've seen (I could be thinking of another player) Bentick is a tough midfielder who loves to lay a tackle. A player like that could be very handy once Murphy and Gibbs reach their peak. With Judd, Murphy and Gibbs in the middle, you'll want a player not afraid to get their hands dirty and do the unrewarding acts like blocking, tackling etc. I know when WC were at their peak, players like Stenglien, Chick and Rojo weren't rated very highly, but they were vital to our team because they made the space for Judd, Cousins and Kerr.

Carrazzo seems like a good little ball magnet, not sure about his kicking though. Will be good for rotations, but I think a player like Bentick could be more valuable for Carlton in the future.

And all of what I wrote could be completely irrelevant if I'm not thinking of the right players.

 

[Murph is baby Judd]

There was a reason Bentick got no game time...

and that reason was pagan

if you look at the games post pagan (the ones we tanked )... where bentick actually got game time... he was outstanding. even got a brownlow vote somewhere in there

and carrots was... carrots

 

[Just Kreuzing]

I'm probably not the best person to answer that, haven't watched many Carlton games this year.

From what I've seen (I could be thinking of another player) Bentick is a tough midfielder who loves to lay a tackle. A player like that could be very handy once Murphy and Gibbs reach their peak. With Judd, Murphy and Gibbs in the middle, you'll want a player not afraid to get their hands dirty and do the unrewarding acts like blocking, tackling etc. I know when WC were at their peak, players like Stenglien, Chick and Rojo weren't rated very highly, but they were vital to our team because they made the space for Judd, Cousins and Kerr.

Carrazzo seems like a good little ball magnet, not sure about his kicking though. Will be good for rotations, but I think a player like Bentick could be more valuable for Carlton in the future.

And all of what I wrote could be completely irrelevant if I'm not thinking of the right players.

Probably sums up where these 2 are at when no one knows who they are,lol.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

If we touch him, we have a new Ackland.

If Ackland is not the worst player in the AFL, Mark Seaby is.

If that's your actual opinion then you should shut the ____ up and enver pretend you know anything about football again.

Seaby can play good football when given the opportunity and if he did come up as a trade option i'm sure many clubs would be interested in his services.

Which would further prove what a muppet you are.

 

[Beloved]

Yes but an outside midfielder is supposed to be able to kick the football.

Sigh... I wish I didn't have to do this comparison!

Andrew Carrazzo
Disposal Efficiency: 78%

Nick Stevens
Disposal Efficiency: 69%

 

[WeninRome]

If that's your actual opinion then you should shut the ____ up and enver pretend you know anything about football again.

Seaby can play good football when given the opportunity and if he did come up as a trade option i'm sure many clubs would be interested in his services.

Which would further prove what a muppet you are.

Lol, righto.... I stand by what I say, Seaby is a dud

An absolute dud. You are the muppet champ.

 

[Beloved]

and that reason was pagan

if you look at the games post pagan (the ones we tanked )... where bentick actually got game time... he was outstanding. even got a brownlow vote somewhere in there

and carrots was... carrots

Key words being "The ones we tanked."

We brought in a bunch of players pre-maturely... Guh, I hate speaking of this!

 

[Blue Dimension]

Kade Simpson - How do you feel about him?

Gun, not going anywhere.

My opinion is - Soft at times, can run like a mother ____er, but ends up too wide at times, poor kicking skills doesnt finish enough, tackling needs work as a few slip through him.

Want to see him get back to the level of desperation he showed last year when he was captain for a while and maybe steady a bit before kicking as he is a bit like Walker at times and is running too fast at the point of kicking, develop right foot skills also.

Think he has some good stuff to work with but again is not indispensible and wouldnt be too upset if he was used as trade bait for more of the type we need.

One of the only players who provides constant run in our team and you think he's dispensable?



Some people honestly.

 

[WeninRome]

Gun, not going anywhere.

hope so

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

Lol, righto.... I stand by what I say, Seaby is a dud

An absolute dud. You are the muppet champ.

You use "lol".

That says alot about you.


And the fact you compare Seaby to Ackland says it all about your football knowledge.

Nobody else would be so ____ing dumb as to make such a comparison.

 

[Murph is baby Judd]

Sigh... I wish I didn't have to do this comparison!

Andrew Carrazzo
Disposal Efficiency: 78%

Nick Stevens
Disposal Efficiency: 69%

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460854&page=2
edit: post no.17




that is all

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Sigh... I wish I didn't have to do this comparison!

Andrew Carrazzo
Disposal Efficiency: 78%

Nick Stevens
Disposal Efficiency: 69%

So you honestly think Carrazzo has better footskills than Nick Stevens?

I knew you were pretty clueless, but this takes the cake.

You genuinely believe that Andrew Carrazzo is effective as an outside midfielder, despite constantly murdering the football?

Did you ever consider that maybe Nick Stevens' kicking efficiency is slightly down because he kicks the footy running at full tilt through the middle of the ground, in heavy traffic, and has to hit leading forwards?

Carrazzo, on the other hand, casually chips the ball around in the backline to a teammate in an acre of space, and as such it isn't really that difficult to find his man (although he still makes it look like rocket science at times). If Carrazzo was subject to the same pressure as Stevens when he kicked the footy, the results would be scary (if his kicking could actually be any worse).

Your crusade is just making you look foolish mate. Please spare us your ignorance.

 

[WeninRome]

You use "lol".

That says alot about you.


And the fact you compare Seaby to Ackland says it all about your football knowledge.

Nobody else would be so ____ing dumb as to make such a comparison.

Really? and how many West Coast games do you watch? Do you notice that he has struggled to stay in the eagles side this year?

I'm not going to bite back, or attack you personally, but keep going if it makes you feel good.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

So you honestly think Carrazzo has better footskills than Nick Stevens?

I knew you were pretty clueless, but this takes the cake.

You genuinely believe that Andrew Carrazzo is effective as an outside midfielder, despite constantly murdering the football?

Did you ever consider that maybe Nick Stevens' kicking efficiency is slightly down because he kicks the footy running at full tilt through the middle of the ground, in heavy traffic, and has to hit leading forwards?

Carrazzo, on the other hand, casually chips the ball around in the backline to a teammate in an acre of space, and as such it isn't really that difficult to find his man (although he still makes it look like rocket science at times). If Carrazzo was subject to the same pressure as Stevens when he kicked the footy, the results would be scary (if his kicking could actually be any worse).

Your crusade is just making you look foolish mate. Please spare us your ignorance.

Stevens is usually heavily tagged and belted from pillar to post also, game set and match with that comparison.

 

[Beloved]

So you honestly think Carrazzo has better footskills than Nick Stevens?

I knew you were pretty clueless, but this takes the cake.

You genuinely believe that Andrew Carrazzo is effective as an outside midfielder, despite constantly murdering the football?

I posted statistics, not my personal oppinion, w***er.

Did you ever consider that maybe Nick Stevens' kicking efficiency is slightly down because he kicks the footy running at full tilt through the middle of the ground, in heavy traffic, and has to hit leading forwards.

And that's Carrazzo's fault, how?

Carrazzo, on the other hand, casually chips the ball around in the backline to a teammate in an acre of space, and as such it isn't really that difficult to find his man (although he still makes it look like rocket science at times).

Rattens gameplan, not Carrazzo's.

If Carrazzo was subject to the same pressure as Stevens when he kicked the footy, the results would be scary (if his kicking could actually be any worse).

I seem to recall year 2007 when Nick Stevens wasn't even in the team and Andrew was left to do the role Nick is playing now, where Carrazzo won the B&F.

Your crusade is just making you look foolish mate. Please spare us your ignorance.

Us or you? How about we all agree on this and we can trounce around the garden with fairies and rose pettles flowing through the air?

 

[RiCHii]

We've got options, my word we do, and if you get out the match against Port Adelaide you'll see how we were able to get back into the match, and it wasn't from Fevola kicking 8 goals.

Cameron Cloke CAN play Centre Half Forward aswell as Full Forward, as can Fisher, and in all honesty, I don't think either of them are being given a fair go to lock themselves in that position because the coaching staff are still busy changing who plays there week after week. One week it's Cloke, the next it's Kreuzer, then it's Hampson... You get where I'm coming from.


I'm with you here, and I think the club is trying to get him his own position in the back pocket. On the weekend, he was able to create contests aswell as gather up 20 odd disposals, good clearances I might add.

I'm sure we've got blokes on our list that we could dispose of instead of Carrazzo. If had the chance to trade someone for Kennedy, we could use someone like say, Ryan Jackson (if they're looking for youth), or if we had to, Ryan Houlihan, as he adds experience to the deflated Eagles. As much as i'd hate to see both of them leave, I think they're easily disposable.



Adam Bentick...

Sorry!

So you would trade our number 1 tackler and arguably our 2nd best ball winner , for an outside midfielder , that needs to be played in the back pocket because of hes disposal ???

 

[Beloved]

So you would trade our number 1 tackler and arguably our 2nd best ball winner , for an outside midfielder , that needs to be played in the back pocket because of hes disposal ???

*Sigh*

Read through the pages, please. I've already backed up my opinion with stats.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

I posted statistics, not my personal oppinion, w***er.


And that's Carrazzo's fault, how?


Rattens gameplan, not Carrazzo's.


I seem to recall year 2007 when Nick Stevens wasn't even in the team and Andrew was left to do the role Nick is playing now, where Carrazzo won the B&F.


Us or you? How about we all agree on this and we can trounce around the garden with fairies and rose pettles flowing through the air?

If Carrazzo was following our game plan and was as critical to Carlton as you seem to think then why has Ratten nearly throttled him the past 2 weeks???

 

[RiCHii]

Also in your last post , where you state carrots won a b&f before stevo came along ....

Can you name the best 22 from that year??

 

[Beloved]

If Carrazzo was following our game plan and was as critical to Carlton as you seem to think then why has Ratten nearly throttled him the past 2 weeks???

Change in gameplan, Ratten realising the fans hate to see that chi-chip game? Carrazzo can't exactly chip the ball to himself 20 times to waste the clock so I can hardly see how this is being thrown upon him.

Also in your last post , where you state carrots won a b&f before stevo came along ....

Can you name the best 22 from that year??

I can, and right up the top of the list is Andy Carrazzo.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

Really? and how many West Coast games do you watch? Do you notice that he has struggled to stay in the eagles side this year?

I'm not going to bite back, or attack you personally, but keep going if it makes you feel good.

Uh how about we go with he's stuck behind the #1 ruckman in the competition who plays around 85% of the game time.

If you watched games like you claim you'd notice alot of their tall backs are now playing forward more frequently. Which in turns means Grayham is now back in the team to cover height down back and when Cox is off they throw the dud Lynch in as a pinch hit ruckman because he's being squeezed out of the forward line.

Seaby's shown when Cox has missed games he's got far better tap ability than Ackland, competes well when the ball hits the ground and can go forward and kick a goal.

As I said if he comes up for trade i'm sure more than a few clubs will bid for his sevices.

And show your opinion to be a load of shit.

 

[Silvagnis]

EBIAC, quit while you're behind and stop embarassing yourself further.

Carrazzo murders the ball and isn't a better footballer and kick than Stevens just because he won the B & F.

 

[Beloved]

EBIAC, quit while you're behind and stop embarassing yourself further.

Carrazzo murders the ball and isn't a better footballer and kick than Stevens just because he won the B & F.

Hah! Twist the words mate, twist the words!

Go back and quote me where I said Andrew was a better football than Nick Stevens, I dare you to.

F*cking moron.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

*Sigh*

Read through the pages, please. I've already backed up my opinion with stats.

Nice contradiction. Didn't you just say that the statistics weren't reflective of your opinion?

Lol.

And yes, you are making yourself look foolish - very foolish, in fact.

It doesn't appear that many here are agreeing with you, either.

Carrazzo - who isn't good enough to get his own footy to be an inside mid, or dispose of the footy well enough as an outside mid, is very tradeable.

And if you think his Best and Fairest win means anything, please take a look at some of the recent winners - Teague and McKernan were sensational footballers too.

Your opinions on this issue are so simplistic it's laughable. Just because Carrazzo gets lots of possessions doesn't make him a good footballer - please try and understand this.

I tire of you and your 'sighing' - do us all a favour and desist.

That is all.

 

[Just Waite]

Carrazzo will not be traded. The only trade bait we have are:

Houlihan
Walker
Russell
Jackson