EDFL moves

[Deefer4]

apparently no offers as yet. keilor want a high profile coach that will bring a couple of high priced recruits as part of the package. ryan pagan was approached but apparently keilor could not match an offer from St Albans

Keilor have not approached Ryan Pagan. A number of ex AFL players in the mix, and some former EDFL ex coaches also interested. More to the point, does Pagan want to stay at St Albans? Hear that he is unhappy, as well as a one other key player.

 

[Deefer4]

Mate I know this is just your opinion and I think it is great to have a helathy discussion. I understand where you are coming from in regards to North Coburg as I played their 10 years ago but what I am just trying to think about is the following:

Would playing C Grade in EDFL be any worse than playing B Grade WRFL?
Would the club want to travel all over the place in the Amateurs?

Like you said these are just my thoughts and personally I wouldnt mind seeing the NCS in the VAFA but I think it would be great to have a C Grade in the EDFL. Although these clubs may never have the money and juniors to get to A Grade the same can be said for clubs in D4 of the VAFA and that is a very successful comp!

Look forward to your comments!

Unless the EDFL can get some more teams into the comp, can't really see a third division working all that well with six teams. Personally, I would prefer to see the South Australian (Adelaide), model implemented, which is virtually the same as our Ammos. Metro A grade, with the best ten clubs, Metro B grade, etc, etc. Would end the squabbles I have seen on various posts over which is the best league outside VFL.

 

[caveman]

Unless the EDFL can get some more teams into the comp, can't really see a third division working all that well with six teams. Personally, I would prefer to see the South Australian (Adelaide), model implemented, which is virtually the same as our Ammos. Metro A grade, with the best ten clubs, Metro B grade, etc, etc. Would end the squabbles I have seen on various posts over which is the best league outside VFL.

I totally agree and would love to see that. Will it ever happen? I doubt it!

 

[Grandale]

I'll speak with 'Boonga' in a fortnight's time when I see him on the annual golf trip, I'll tell you exactly whether he is going to be coaching there or not.

Who is ``Boonga''? I can absolutely guarantee Dave Callander is not coaching ar Keilor next season.
Apparently he announced that to the playing group after their prelim final loss.
No word on who is replacement is yet, though.

 

[---tagger---]

What is the price range of the A Grade clubs in the EDFL. What do the best players at the club get each week???

Do clubs just get the money from sponsorship? What happens when the major sponsor leaves

 

[Deefer4]

What is the price range of the A Grade clubs in the EDFL. What do the best players at the club get each week???

Do clubs just get the money from sponsorship? What happens when the major sponsor leaves

Very interesting question and it depends on who you ask. Quick answer, it varies between clubs. Popular opinion has Greenvale paying out heeps, again if you believe rumours, Paxman is getting anywhere from $800 to $1200 per game. Strathmore raised the ante this year with some of the imports reportedly on $600-$900 per game. Drops away quite a bit after that. Most of the other clubs have budgets in the $50k to $100k bracket, with the payments obviously being lower.

Are you looking for a game Tagger? If so what is your background?

Money comes from sponsorship, bar canteen fund raiser. If a major sponsor leaves, it can cause a problem. We have seen a number of teams over the years go from chocolates to 100's and 1000's, not even boiled lollies, because they have lost a major sponsor.

Heard a rumour during the finals that Greenvale would be losing major funding and players next year, but heard a similar rumour last year as well.

 

[Bulldog1954]

It would take a lot to push North Coburg into the WRFL, 3 and 4 years ago they had merger meetings with Coburg Districts as they wanted to come into the EDFL, they were voted against and since then they have become far more competitive and run at a profit

 

[caveman]

Very interesting question and it depends on who you ask. Quick answer, it varies between clubs. Popular opinion has Greenvale paying out heeps, again if you believe rumours, Paxman is getting anywhere from $800 to $1200 per game. Strathmore raised the ante this year with some of the imports reportedly on $600-$900 per game. Drops away quite a bit after that. Most of the other clubs have budgets in the $50k to $100k bracket, with the payments obviously being lower.

Are you looking for a game Tagger? If so what is your background?

Money comes from sponsorship, bar canteen fund raiser. If a major sponsor leaves, it can cause a problem. We have seen a number of teams over the years go from chocolates to 100's and 1000's, not even boiled lollies, because they have lost a major sponsor.

Heard a rumour during the finals that Greenvale would be losing major funding and players next year, but heard a similar rumour last year as well.

How do you see the same question but regards to the B grade clubs? Can you give us a rundown? I know it is only opinion but am curious.

 

[caveman]

It would take a lot to push North Coburg into the WRFL, 3 and 4 years ago they had merger meetings with Coburg Districts as they wanted to come into the EDFL, they were voted against and since then they have become far more competitive and run at a profit

They have definitely come along way in the last few years. Hopefully they can keep their playing squad and maybe improve on it for season 2006!

 

[My North]

How do you see the same question but regards to the B grade clubs? Can you give us a rundown? I know it is only opinion but am curious.

Again depends on the club.

 

[caveman]

Again depends on the club.

CAn you go through the clubs with your opinion. If not what kind of position do you see West Coburg in for recruiting and even North Coburg?

 

[Pantsless]

Craigieburn would be doing alright money wise. A soon to be massive club now they're in A Grade. Would make alot of money over the bar as there is only two places to drink in Craigieburn, the fooball club and the golf club. Together with massive amounts of juniors and the massive housing growth up there.

 

[My North]

Craigieburn would be doing alright money wise. A soon to be massive club now they're in A Grade. Would make alot of money over the bar as there is only two places to drink in Craigieburn, the fooball club and the golf club. Together with massive amounts of juniors and the massive housing growth up there.

Craigienurn still has no pub, what a a crap, something to do with the bottle shop owner being on the council and gets all council mates to voter with him to knock back everytime a hotel is proposed.

 

[My North]

CAn you go through the clubs with your opinion. If not what kind of position do you see West Coburg in for recruiting and even North Coburg?

Dont know really much about all the clubs in B Grade expect for my club Maribyrnong Park.

West Coburg cannot recurit anyone because of majority of the players culture background. Anyone who follows the EDFL knows this. North Coburg have better in there recruiting in the last 2 seasons, they could not have got any worse than what they were, winning something like 4 games in 5 years. Have done okay but nothing special in the last 2 years. North Coburg clubrooms and ground are crap.

 

[caveman]

Dont know really much about all the clubs in B Grade expect for my club Maribyrnong Park.

West Coburg cannot recurit anyone because of majority of the players culture background. Anyone who follows the EDFL knows this. North Coburg have better in there recruiting in the last 2 seasons, they could not have got any worse than what they were, winning something like 4 games in 5 years. Have done okay but nothing special in the last 2 years. North Coburg clubrooms and ground are crap.

Yes I realise West Coburgs cultural backgrounds but in this day and age it is sad that you think that is why they cant recruit anyone. Would West Coburg have the finances to recruit heavily?

 

[Deefer4]

Yes I realise West Coburgs cultural backgrounds but in this day and age it is sad that you think that is why they cant recruit anyone. Would West Coburg have the finances to recruit heavily?

I think West Coburg were banking heavily on winning the B Grade flag and getting back into A grade, making them a more attractive proposition for players. As I said in an earlier post, they were targeting some of their former players, Houcher, Rosios, Kaakour and Flavell. Those four alone would probably cost $1200 to $1500. Of their existing players, Cudmore was paid a bit to come back as was Vizzini. So if you look at that group of players, gets to say $2000 per game, plus $1500 for the rest, would put their budget at around $mid 60's. Thats if they were in A grade. Probably cost quite a few bob more to attract better players into B grade, to get them back in A grade.

Apart from Marby Park, who appeared to be cashed up this year and did get some names, the rest of B grade is probably not paying much more than the $50K to $60k.

Craigieburn, the proceeds of the Sporting club are pretty well split over a number of affiliated clubs, football cricket, bowls. Whilst it does generate money, not as much, at the moment, as people think. Big danger now that they are in A grade is additional money coming in and making them a power. This was the fear of most EDFL clubs when they were admitted a few years back.

 

[caveman]

I think West Coburg were banking heavily on winning the B Grade flag and getting back into A grade, making them a more attractive proposition for players. As I said in an earlier post, they were targeting some of their former players, Houcher, Rosios, Kaakour and Flavell. Those four alone would probably cost $1200 to $1500. Of their existing players, Cudmore was paid a bit to come back as was Vizzini. So if you look at that group of players, gets to say $2000 per game, plus $1500 for the rest, would put their budget at around $mid 60's. Thats if they were in A grade. Probably cost quite a few bob more to attract better players into B grade, to get them back in A grade.

Fair point but it would be great if even a couple of these players showed a bit of loyalty and comeback to help the club and not just cash in when they are back in A grade!

 

[My North]

Yes I realise West Coburgs cultural backgrounds but in this day and age it is sad that you think that is why they cant recruit anyone. Would West Coburg have the finances to recruit heavily?

well people wont go there because of there cultural background

 

[caveman]

well people wont go there because of there cultural background

Mate I apologise if my message came across as I was having a go at you because I wasnt. I suppose I am just used to all the different cultures as I lived all my life in Coburg up until 20.

Sorry mate! I do understand what you are saying!

 

[My North]

Fair point but it would be great if even a couple of these players showed a bit of loyalty and comeback to help the club and not just cash in when they are back in A grade!

I doubt that they would go back to West Coburg. West Coburg have a bad history of being promated to A Grade only to go back down to B Grade the next year.

 

[caveman]

I doubt that they would go back to West Coburg. West Coburg have a bad history of being promated to A Grade only to go back down to B Grade the next year.

Cant disagree with that!

 

[My North]

Cant disagree with that!

Lately West Coburg have made the last couple B Grand Finals only to lose them, it looks like that this will be West Coburg habit from now on.

 

[caveman]

Lately West Coburg have made the last couple B Grand Finals only to lose them, it looks like that this will be West Coburg habit from now on.

Mate I think that is being a bit harsh on the mighty West. Although they have lost their past 2 grand final appearances, the last one was against a Craigieburn team that had a great season and West Coburg made it from 4th.

We beat Westmeadows, Taylors Lakes, Maribyrnong Park and only lost by 9 points. Although we lost the big one overall it was a great effort. Definitely should be top 3 next season!

 

[roge_3]

Was speaking to a player from the WRFL side Seddon Yarraville on the weekend Ben Goggins who is looking at a move to Strathmore after an offer. Has anyone seen him and if so how do you think he will go in the EDFL?

 

[Aussie_dude]

Some EDFL moves i have heard:

Avondale Heights have lost the battle to sign Ryan Pagan, but are still recuiting. The loss of David Weston will hurt dearly. Additionally, Coburg listed player John Damian looks set to play the entire year for the heights.

Winter has left Strathmore, but this is old news now

Also heard that the youngest and most talented of the Kent boys has had a falling out with Steve MacPherson and may part with Greenvale. He has been injured the last two years with leg complaints and Glandular fever. Looks to move well and is young, but is still an unknown quantity. IMO he looks set to blossem and has been linked with Old Essendon, Doutta Stars and Marby Park.

Doutta Stars have signed Kade Carey for $700 a game. He will be a good addition as the Stars really lack height up foward.