Its one month mandatory charity and volunteer work. This has what to do with nationalism?
Emmanuel Macron, President of the French Republic
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How exactly is lack of popularity a defence against the claim that nationalism was a driver behind the world wars? Nationalism is only a thing because its popular with the irrational and uneducated. Most nationalists are popular.
You get entertained by poor arguments and the use of primary school level bullying tactics? Most adults laughed at how childish his tweets are. If you dont see it then that suggests a lot about your mental maturity.
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It’s explicitly mandatory service in the interests of French national good. Macron says it right there!
And charity and volunteer work is in the national good. Again, what has this got to do with nationalism and the demonisation of foreigners as being second class to domestic residents?
Doing charity and volunteer work is not nationalistic. It doesnt demonize citizens from other countries or make them worse off. Even training with the military is not automatically nationalistic if its about defense when a credible threat has presented itself such as Russia is currently. Cracking down on immigrants, purging your country of undesirables, putting up barriers to trade, capital and labour mobility and demonising products simply because they are imports is blatant nationalism. Is Macron doing any of this? If so you may have a case.
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You have no idea what nationalism is.
Apparently you think its about charity and volunter work. In that case all countrys are nationalists. In the end you can broaden the term nationalism to mean whatever you want it to. Its just semantics.
However, when someone criticizes nationalists the only definition of nationalism that matters is the one used by the person making the criticism as its their definition that they are denouncing. Not yours.
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Macron has always run centrist campaigns though, I don't think he would reject the neoliberalism tag if he was among the elites.
You socialists need to understand that being procapitalist and neoliberalism is not the same thing.
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Seeds, you are wrong. You are always wrong.
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Nationalism played very little part in the First World War. They were empires pitted against one another, a struggle between elites and royal families.
Look at a map of Europe now compared to 1914. Many more different independent nations now with their own national identity.
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Tbh it did, Serbian nationalism against the Austro-Hungarian Empire kicked it off. But that means we should bring back imperialism imo
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I disagree. What happened in Sarajevo was just an event used by the elite to force a war. With all the different alliances it was inevitable. Countries with the strongest nationalism now, aka Poland, Czech Republic, etc were not even allowed their own sovereignty then and were divided up amongst the different empires.
Macron wants a return to Europe under empires. Except this time the empire is the EU, without ethnic and religious traditions. This is the same outcome wanted by all globalists and needs the complete destruction of national identity. It's no surprise that these countries are also the ones not signing away their sovereignty with the latest UN migration pact. AKA the destruction of identity pact.
Gees you respond like a toddler. Use argument. Be better then a 3 year old.
That cultural influence smokingjacket mentioned has consequences for the French, at any rate.
Currently, they have one of the lowest retirement ages in the EU, coupled with one of the most generous pension arrangements.
Unfortunately an ageing population is affecting them as much as it is everyone else in the developed world, but successive efforts to address the issue have met with little success. As far as I'm aware, they've only just managed to raise their retirement age from 60 to 62 in recent years, and even that was met with significant resistance.
They have the same problems looming on the horizon as most of the developed world has, but the French, in particular, might have more problems addressing those issues. The only real answers anyone has in the short term are increased taxation and (particularly youth) immigration, but both of those solutions come with problems of their own.
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Another globalist installed by the elite.
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Eh? Whatever you think of Macron's milquetoast liberal politics, his centrist party won a crushing democratic victory over the traditional elite parties.
Not quite how I'd characterise it, given the traditional elite parties came third and a very distant fifth, and he had 24%.
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It's a multiparty system, 24% is a very strong first round result and even more so for a first time candidate. En Marche went from 0 to 304 seats or 53% of the house. He reduced the Socialist Party to just 30 seats and and the Republicans to 112, under 20%. That's a paddling in any type of democracy.
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Why is globalism a bad thing?
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Can the French be globalists? As a rule they think every other culture is beneath them.
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When people deride globalists, does that mean they think there should be no such thing as international law? How should war criminals be tried? How should we arbitrate overlapping claims in the South China Sea?
How do you do that if we dismantle international institutions on the grounds they're "globalist"?
How do you do that if we dismantle international institutions on the grounds they're "globalist"?
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You can be a pain in the arse and still be a globalist, presumably.
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