Engagements!

[Docker_Brat]

Originally posted by Bee


I understand what you are saying with that Spidey, but isn't that the fault of the girl for being so bloody stupid and gullible to accept that behaviour?

What is it with women who seem to enjoy being treated like that?

 

[Docker_Brat]

Originally posted by Dan26


Depends what else I can offer her.

It would have to be impressive and you'd have to be a Jedi master in it's wielding to be able to get away with being cheap.

 

[Bee]

Originally posted by Docker_Brat

What is it with women who seem to enjoy being treated like that?

Buggered if I know. They are either desperately lonely or stupid.
It's akin to women who stay in abusive relationships.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Dan26


Why can't your commitment instead be total and utter devotion to your partner every day, without a $1000 rock on her finger? Why do you have to be engaged to "justify" commitment to your partner? If you love the other person, you should be committed no matter what.



Because they feel they have to. They feel it is something they should do, because the rest of society does it.

Dan its both you big numbskull.

The day I proposed to my fiance was one of the happiest days of our lives - we got so much out of it - it was well worth the money.

Its not a matter of justification its a matter of showing your commitment to the world

You wear the ring to say - hey I am taken - I have a partenr who I have committed to sharing the rest of my life with.

My partner bought me a watch as a present the next day which is my symbol of the same thing.

I didn't do it cause I felt I had to - I did it because I wanted to and have not regretted it.

I wouldn't expect you to understand as its not all based on logic.

Emotion and romance come into it.

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Jars458


Dan its both you big numbskull.

The day I proposed to my fiance was one of the happiest days of our lives - we got so much out of it - it was well worth the money.

Its not a matter of justification its a matter of showing your commitment to the world

You wear the ring to say - hey I am taken - I have a partenr who I have committed to sharing the rest of my life with.

My partner bought me a watch as a present the next day which is my symbol of the same thing.

I didn't do it cause I felt I had to - I did it because I wanted to and have not regretted it.

I wouldn't expect you to understand as its not all based on logic.

Emotion and romance come into it.

Emotion and romance come into it do they? In my mind emotion and romance can be shown every day, and it doesn't have to be shown with something tangible like a ring. That ring doesn't actully prove anything.

If you are "taken", you certainly don't need a ring to say it.

I mean, if you and your fiance never actually got engaged but you both planned to live with each other for the rest of your life anyway, would it make any difference to your happiness? No.

 

[Docker_Brat]

Originally posted by Dan26


Emotion and romance come into it do they? In my mind emotion and romance can be shown every day, and it doesn't have to be shown with something tangible like a ring. That ring doesn't actully prove anything.

If you are "taken", you certainly don't need a ring to say it.

I mean, if you and your fiance never actually got engaged but you both planned to live with each other for the rest of your life anyway, would it make any difference to your happiness? No.

It would make a difference to your happiness Dan, you'd be nagged to death about being a tightarse. Being nagged is not a happy existence.

 

[Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk]

Originally posted by Dan26
In my mind emotion and romance can be shown every day, and it doesn't have to be shown with something tangible like a ring. That ring doesn't actully prove anything.

Thats kinda wot my relos say in regards to christmas and birthday presents. They r bloody jehovas whitnesses and say that u should show your love all year around and not only on one day so they give me presents and money and stuff a couple of times a year just when they feel like it and not on actual days that say u r supposed to.

 

[Docker_Brat]

Originally posted by Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk
They r bloody jehovas whitnesses

Now everything makes sense. I honestly feel for you Spidey.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Dan26


Emotion and romance come into it do they? In my mind emotion and romance can be shown every day, and it doesn't have to be shown with something tangible like a ring. That ring doesn't actully prove anything.

If you are "taken", you certainly don't need a ring to say it.

I mean, if you and your fiance never actually got engaged but you both planned to live with each other for the rest of your life anyway, would it make any difference to your happiness? No.

So you would never buy a gift for a partenr to express love or affection????

Love and affection are shown in many ways, and yes you do it every day, no-one is arguing that.

An engagement ring is only one - but it is a durable visible symbol

You don't have to buy a scarf and a jumper to show you support Essendon - but you do - same thing on a smaller scale.

I know you won't even agree its POSSIBLE that such a thing is ok to do because its like talking to a brick wall.

If millions of people told you being engaged meant a lot to them - you would say its only because society made them say that - ignoring the evidence in favour of your own views.

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by Jars458


Everyone is different

IMO Your wedding day should be the most special day of your life

So you surround yourself with friends, family, good food and drink, a string quarter, a dj, etc etc. This costs money but how do you measure the feeling it gives you in monetary value.



32 days away for me.

I trust your future better half is not standing behind you with a loaded rolling pin Jars while you was writing this?

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Jars458


So you would never buy a gift for a partenr to express love or affection????

Love and affection are shown in many ways, and yes you do it every day, no-one is arguing that.

An engagement ring is only one - but it is a durable visible symbol

You don't have to buy a scarf and a jumper to show you support Essendon - but you do - same thing on a smaller scale.

I know you won't even agree its POSSIBLE that such a thing is ok to do because its like talking to a brick wall.

If millions of people told you being engaged meant a lot to them - you would say its only because society made them say that - ignoring the evidence in favour of your own views.

Normal presents you might buy are differnent. A ring, on the other hand doesn't actually do anyting - it is just a symbol. And I'm perplexed why one needs such a symbol if they already know they love the other person.

It almost looks as if they're convincing themself that they love the other perosn through a physical item, when both people should know their feelings towards one another anyway - even without a bit bit of legal paper and a ring. But hey, if it does it for you, that's great.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Dan26


Normal presents you might buy are differnent. A ring, on the other hand doesn't actually do anyting - it is just a symbol. And I'm perplexed why one needs such a symbol if they already know they love the other person.

It almost looks as if they're convincing themself that they love the other perosn through a physical item, when both people should know their feelings towards one another anyway - even without a bit bit of legal paper and a ring. But hey, if it does it for you, that's great.

As I said, I wouldn't expect you to get it.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by noddy


I trust your future better half is not standing behind you with a loaded rolling pin Jars while you was writing this?

LOL!

No, its one of many things we see eye eye on!!

However, horror of horrors, she is a Port supporter. So you can never have everything.

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by Jars458



However, horror of horrors, she is a Port supporter. So you can never have everything.

THAT IS NOT FUNNY Jars!!!!

 

[Bee]

Originally posted by Jars458



However, horror of horrors, she is a Port supporter. So you can never have everything.

Don't worry Jars, my man supports anyone who plays Carlton! Like you said you can't have it all!

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by Dan26


Normal presents you might buy are differnent. A ring, on the other hand doesn't actually do anyting - it is just a symbol. And I'm perplexed why one needs such a symbol if they already know they love the other person.

It almost looks as if they're convincing themself that they love the other perosn through a physical item, when both people should know their feelings towards one another anyway - even without a bit bit of legal paper and a ring. But hey, if it does it for you, that's great.

But an engagement ring is not the end of it, then comes the wedding ring & if your lucky you can even buy one of those for yourself,
Then comes an eternity ring & after that they expect another bloody ring with different stones ie= Rubys,Sapphires & whatever else takes their fancy every 2 or 3 years, & all i ever get is jocks & socks so tell me where is the justice in all that??

 

[Rohan_]

Marriage is just a piece of paper. My brother recently got married with the girl he has lived with for years.

There is no difference before he was married to after he got married.

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Rohan_
Marriage is just a piece of paper. My brother recently got married with the girl he has lived with for years.

There is no difference before he was married to after he got married.

Exactly my point.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Rohan_
Marriage is just a piece of paper. My brother recently got married with the girl he has lived with for years.

There is no difference before he was married to after he got married.

legally there are differences ( very small ones these days I admit)

Is that your view or his????



If Rohan and Dan agree. Then I must be right.

 

[blackdiamond]

Re: Re: Engagements!

Originally posted by Badger


I dont exactly have a knight in shining armour at the moment. I havent for a long time, and it gets pretty lonely sometimes. But enough of my sympathy story.

I've always had a dream that my future husband would propose to me in the middle of a football field, after a game. He wouldnt necessarily have to be a football player, [although it would be nice *dreamy sigh*] just the right man, I guess. Yeah, so he would propose, with everyone watching, yada yada, yeah right, it'll happen when Kylie is Prime Minister.

Im sure you will find your knight in shining armour, you are not even 17 yet so you have plenty of time in front of you. Before you know it you will have found your man.

My girlfriend would kill me if our engagement had anything to do with football. Don't get me wrong, she loves her footy and is a mad Port fan like myself but sometimes you have to know where the line ends with footy otherwise you become too one dimensional although I think I already am.

 

[gbear]

Originally posted by Jars458


Dan you are a very boring, one dimensional person. (from the only evidence available to me)


Perhaps when you see the joy in the eyes of your partner and the happines she feels because you have made an effort to show her what she means to you, you might understand.

But I doubt it.

you just stay at home with mum and dad and collect footy stats.

I could not agree more. I pity anyone that enters into a relationship with you.

 

[Rohan_]

Originally posted by Dan26


Exactly my point.

And most people think once you are married you won't be trueful to anyone but your husband/wife. It's a load of bollocks.

No wonder so many people cheat. They are bound and tied down to values that are outdated..

 

[Docker_Brat]

Originally posted by gbear


I could not agree more. I pity anyone that enters into a relationship with you.

You reckon that's going to happen?

 

[gbear]

Originally posted by Jars458


Everyone is different

IMO Your wedding day should be the most special day of your life

So you surround yourself with friends, family, good food and drink, a string quarter, a dj, etc etc. This costs money but how do you measure the feeling it gives you in monetary value.



32 days away for me.

Congratulations and good luck Jars.

 

[blackdiamond]

Originally posted by ant
I'm with Nic on this one, show her how much you care by making a complete and utter fool of yourself

How musically talented are you Scott? How are your vocals? Women love to be serenaded, so I suggest you surprise her by combining the proposal with a song.

Here's the plan: Organise a girls' night out for your gal and some of her closest friends at a nice restaurant.....towards the end of the evening, ask the owner to dim the lights, after which you make a dramatic entrance into the room, rose and microphone in hand. Now proceed to belt out a nice romantic tune (maybe you two have a special song?) Once you've finished, get down on bended knee and pop the question, but before you do, add some of your own words, telling her how much she means to you. Trust me, she will absolutely melt, she will love all the trouble you've gone to!

Anyway Scott, good luck with all that, all the best to you and your future bride

Thanks Ant!

I wouldn't say that I am that musically talented although I think I have a rather good voice.

With Port winning so many games over the past two years I have had heaps of practice with the Port theme song and she tells me I sing that well.

All I need to do now is find a song and practice it hard, seriously though I can't see that happening.