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15.WB: Carlisle is their man apparently.

I can understand the attraction because he can play at both ends. Eade loves versatility in big men and we are light on for key defenders.

However, I am not sold on Carlisle. The last thing we need is another athletic big man who plays more like a flanker. I'd rather we secure a definite KPP (Talia, Black) or a midfielder with pace (Jetta, Bartlett).

The tweener types haven't treated us well over the journey and I have a few concerns about Carlisle, despite his talents.
 
I can understand the attraction because he can play at both ends. Eade loves versatility in big men and we are light on for key defenders.

However, I am not sold on Carlisle. The last thing we need is another athletic big man who plays more like a flanker. I'd rather we secure a definite KPP (Talia, Black) or a midfielder with pace (Jetta, Bartlett).

The tweener types haven't treated us well over the journey and I have a few concerns about Carlisle, despite his talents.

:confused::confused: Carlisle is 197cm with long arms and a good vertical leap and has predominantly played CHF/CHB for Calder.

If anything Talia and Black play more like floating tall utilities :eek:
 

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:confused::confused: Carlisle is 197cm with long arms and a good vertical leap and has predominantly played CHF/CHB for Calder.

If anything Talia and Black play more like floating tall utilities :eek:

Height doesn't always mean a player can effectively hold down a KP. Lloyd/Fevola are short in KP terms but were/are two of the best around.

Carlisle has a good skill set, but looks similar to the likes of Everitt in the way that he moves/plays. Even reminds me of Westhoff in a sense. IMO we really don't need another tall floating player with good skills.

We'd need a Talia type (Solid CHB) or a Griffiths type (Huge risk, though). Which is why I'd probably rather we draft for pace.
 
I hate these patronising arguments on BF, where people fill in their own gaps and pick to death incomplete posts, why I don't bother much anymore......thanks for the tip sherlock :)
 
I believe recent events have helped clarify Port's drafting intentions for the upcoming drafts.

First they upgraded 201cm 20yo forward/ruckman Daniel Stewart from the rookie list to the main list

Second they have now added 198cm 22yo Daniel Bass as an unregistered player to the rookie list, he's a medium-term ruck project who hails from Melbourne, so he has dabbled with Aussie Rules in his younger days.

Port now has Lobbe, Redden, Stewart, Trengove & Bass all 22 & under to help out Brogan

Due to the above I reckon there is no chance in hell that Port will take a ruckman at any of our National Draft picks, 8, 9 & 16. I believe we'll take best available midfielder & key position forward at picks 8 & 9, plus use pick 16 for best available midfielder.

This leaves Port with a Pre-Season Draft pick, around about pick 7 or earlier, to use on a mature, big bodied ruckman from any of the state or country leagues, like the Crows did when they took Ben Hudson. Doing this means Brogan has support from day 1, giving Port time to blood our junior rucks, without the weight of the whole team on their shoulders.

I also reckon Port will take a raw giant kid as a rookie, see if he could make it, or not.

Faith, do you agree with the stuff above that I wrote?

Cheers for the info
 
If I wanted to be sure of getting a definite KPP, I would much rather Carlisle than Black....
That's one of the reasons why I'm for Carlton taking Andrew Moore ahead of Black and Talia

Moore looks a better athlete and more versatile.

Moore's alround athleticism, intensity, versatility and size reminds me of Walker.

Houlihan and Scotland will leave Carlton within the next three to four seasons.

Carrazzo and Armfield might be not good enough.

A pacy mid or utility would be a good get for Carlton.
 
Some news from this years draft. (Updated everytime i hear some news)

Top 8 settled at this stage:
1Melb:Trengrove; (The best player)
2Melb:Scully; (clearly 2nd best player)
3Rich:Martin; (Rich are favoured to get Martin, but Morabitto is 3rd best player)
4Freo:Morabitto: (Queries on his work rate. 3rd best player, but Rich maybe scared off and go for safe option, freo will snap him up. The next Headland. Would go 1 if his work rate was better.)
5NM:Cunnington (from what im told clearly the best 5 players. NM want him).
6.Syd:Rohan (gun attributes but doesnt get involved enough. Whispers he may slip further down, but shouldnt. Unlikely to go top 5) ;
7.WC:Jetta; (They want him more than Lucas. Certainly a top 12 pic)
8.PA: Butcher (too big a talent not too get here and PA need someone like this);

The next 7 will be between these players. Its hard to know which way port will go.
9. PA: Melksham(Have been linked heavily to him recently, complements their midf well);
10.Ess: Koby Stevens (very good prospect, suits Essendon's style of play);
11.Melb: Daniel Talia (Looks like a very good forward and defensive prospect);
12.Carl: Black (Shot up recently, Mixture of Danger/Otten/Burton. Carlton want Talia but i think Melb will take him);
13.Adel: JMP (inside info. They want him or Talia bad......Id rather have Sheppard or Bartlett);
14.Syd: Lucas (They have been heavily linked to him recently);
15.WB: Carlisle is their man apparently.

* Moore (has been linked to Ess(10) and Adel(13), is a 1st rounder);
* Sheppard is also a real possibility between 9(Port) and 14(Sydney);
Many of you will say what has Happend to Tapscott. Every year there is aa SA boy who is rated highly by outsiders but not by recruiters and slips.
Ive heard lately Tapscott will go early second. 18-22.
If i hear anythin else i'll let you know.

No he's not. If your info is correct on the picks before the Dogs, they will be picking Sheppard;).
 

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Port cant overlook Butcher. Too big a talent. Similar to Vickery.
They should take him with 8 or 9.
So therefore probably disagree with you.

Hang on a sec, I said

"Due to the above I reckon there is no chance in hell that Port will take a ruckman at any of our National Draft picks, 8, 9 & 16. I believe we'll take best available midfielder & key position forward at picks 8 & 9, plus use pick 16 for best available midfielder."

I was saying we wont take a ruckman, but will take as I highlighted above

So I'd be real keen on Butcher and whichever midfielder we reckon is best available
 
Hang on a sec, I said

"Due to the above I reckon there is no chance in hell that Port will take a ruckman at any of our National Draft picks, 8, 9 & 16. I believe we'll take best available midfielder & key position forward at picks 8 & 9, plus use pick 16 for best available midfielder."

I was saying we wont take a ruckman, but will take as I highlighted above

So I'd be real keen on Butcher and whichever midfielder we reckon is best available

I think they may take 2 kpp's and a mid. Or 2mids and KPP.
eg Melksh,Butcher and Sheppard/Carlisle
 
Many of you will say what has Happend to Tapscott. Every year there is aa SA boy who is rated highly by outsiders but not by recruiters and slips.
Ive heard lately Tapscott will go early second. 18-22.
Hope he goes to us at 20. Been a bit of a fan, I liken him a bit to Suban.
 
No way Port will pass on Lucas unless someone like Cunnington is still available but I agree about Morabito. I wont be surprised if Melbourne go Trengove/Morabito. No doubt Scully is a talent but the Dees may prefer the sheer size and upside of Morabito. I have only seen highlights of Scully but have seen a lot of Trengove and I have no doubt Trengove is the #1 player in this years draft.
 
Inside source. Yeah, okay.... :eek:

You may aswell not even include that because if you get it wrong like last year you just get bagged.

Might want to check the front page also, Morabito is spelt wrong.
Then don't take it seriously, don't read it....or don't post.

All viable options.
 

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So you'll go out of your way to be negative when Faith is providing what could be inside info, we don't know.

Yeah, okay....he/she has gone around to every single club and got the inside info on who they will draft ontop of the fact even some of the clubs wouldn't even be 100% sure yet. He/she got it completely wrong last year so why should we believe this one? All a load of crap. Pretty sus when they don't know how to spell players names either.
 
Inside source. Yeah, okay.... :eek:

You may aswell not even include that because if you get it wrong like last year you just get bagged.

Might want to check the front page also, Morabito is spelt wrong.

I don't often agree with you Barnzy, but on this I agree with you :thumbsu:. Also interesting that the OP said that Shaun McKernan was a 'certainty' to be taken in the first round last year :eek:

BTW, just heard from my inside sources that the Dees are strongly considering Scully and Trengove with their first two picks.
 
Faith isn't claiming to be an expert on the draft nor an A grade speller.

Just simply passing on knowledge given from an Adelaide based recruiter, who if true, knows more about this draft than anyone posting on here.

If you read the OP you'll see Faith points out this is info passed on upto pick 12 odd and then it's Faith's opinion following.

So it comes down to this.....

Faith is talking bs, oh well, this still provokes discussion.

Faiths sources is feeding bs, oh well thanks for passing on what you have

Faiths sources is passing on good info, awesome hooray.

Why do you give a shit, not happy with Martin?

Faiths draft wasn't any less right than anyone elses last year and was wrong re the Crows, who, like this year, don't believe anything they say about their own draft.
 
Last year his info was relatively reliable except for the Crows first draft pick, which they always keep a secret. No surprises there.

He hasn't gone around to each club, he's got a recruiter's opinion of what each club will do. Obviously he's not pretending he can predict the future, he's just posting what he's been told.


It might end up being crap but it's still info from a source. You can now read it and take from it what you will.


If nothing else we've learnt the last couple of years that if the Crows nominate people as their preferred choices for the first round pick that there is usually someone else they would prefer more that they haven't mentioned.


And yeah, coming on here and offering nothing but smug cynicism is pretty worthless dude.

Also, why is it questionable that he spells the names wrong? It's not like the recruiter he spoke to wrote him a letter, they spoke to each other. He's not pretending to be an expert, he just happens to know someone.
 

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