Opinion First Captain under Walsh?

[Donkey Magoo]

At the end of the day, VB didn't even make the 22 for one game last year.

 

[NTRabbit]

At the end of the day, VB didn't even make the 22 for one game last year.

But the year before he made nearly every game, and Tex made it into the 22 only five times!

 

[King Elvis]

There were patches of games in 2013 where, had he not held the captaincy, his place in the side would have been under scrutiny, such was his form. Surely you acknowledge that?

That's the 'gold pass' that he enjoyed by having the C against his name.

He should've been dropped in 2013; as you say, Captaincy (and Sando) saved him from it.

I think VB has a place in the side as our medium sized defender - stop the Ziebell types for carving us up - but outside of that, I'm not sure if he does; and the recruitment of Cheney clouds even that. As a midfielder, I don't think he has a spot in our side - we already have too many quality juniors who are struggling for a spot, most of whom have arguably gone by him in the last 12 months.

Lyons, Crouch, Grigg - all should be playing most games this year, and they didn't last year, VB is behind all 3 of them as a midfielder, IMO.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Lets be honest. If VB was not captain in some of the games in 2013, he would have been dropped. He was always going to get replaced with the new coach. I think they might have already thought about replacing him last year but with the injury, it would have been a bit of a PR disaster in their eyes, when in reality it would have been a perfect time to replace him

 

[King Elvis]

Lets be honest. If VB was not captain in some of the games in 2013, he would have been dropped. He was always going to get replaced with the new coach. I think they might have already thought about replacing him last year but with the injury, it would have been a bit of a PR disaster in their eyes, when in reality it would have been a perfect time to replace him

Bingo.

Sando/Trigg didn't make hard decisions, hence VB stayed on.

 

[NTRabbit]

Nevermind, I was thinking of the wrong year

 

[Pdub]

Rory had some interesting comments in this article by Caro.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...developing-into-a-stayer-20150220-13kuje.html

The early signs are that Sloane and his new coach will develop a frank and trusting relationship. Walsh was honest with Sloane regarding the reasons he appointed Taylor Walker as captain – an appointment that took most football observers by surprise and yet had been on the cards since November last year.

"To his (Sloane's) credit, he didn't agree with some of my observations," said Walsh, "and he said: 'I'll show you what a good leader I can be.'

"Tex, for me, was the obvious choice. I need leaders who impact games, change direction of games and Tex has that quality more than the others. I also need an element of 'follow me' and he's outstanding at it."

Sloane, who is well known for his ability to demand commitment from his teammates, denied he had been disappointed in missing the Adelaide captaincy and said he was aware of some off-field behaviours he needed to improve on.

"I won't go into detail, but I think it's not so much game-day stuff," he said. "I think I could do more work mentoring our younger kids. But I'm really comfortable with Tex and I've said this to Tex – he's got the ability to stand up and influence games and you want your captain to stand up in games like that. You just have to go back to that (second semi) final against Fremantle (in 2012) to see how much influence he can have on a game."

You see Tex and Danger taking in the new draftees to live with them, but you don't see this from Rory. I think Tex and Rory have everything on-field that Walsh wanted, Rory has the 'follow me' element, his shoulders never drop, he always acts as if the team can still win, Rory just didn't have the off-field mentoring that the other 2 blokes did. Danger doesn't really have the 'follow me' element, he tries but for whatever reason his big moments don't seem to lift the team, it's almost as if he's so freakish, when he starts doing the extraordinary the team thinks "danger will get us home" rather than "let's do what danger is doing" not sure if that is his fault or their fault.

So that's what it came down to, Danger is not as good on-field as Rory and Tex, Rory is not as good off-field as Danger and Tex, Tex gets the job.

 

[TrainRoo32]

Rory had some interesting comments in this article by Caro.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...developing-into-a-stayer-20150220-13kuje.html



You see Tex and Danger taking in the new draftees to live with them, but you don't see this from Rory. I think Tex and Rory have everything on-field that Walsh wanted, Rory has the 'follow me' element, his shoulders never drop, he always acts as if the team can still win, Rory just didn't have the off-field mentoring that the other 2 blokes did. Danger doesn't really have the 'follow me' element, he tries but for whatever reason his big moments don't seem to lift the team, it's almost as if he's so freakish, when he starts doing the extraordinary the team thinks "danger will get us home" rather than "let's do what danger is doing" not sure if that is his fault or their fault.

So that's what it came down to, Danger is not as good on-field as Rory and Tex, Rory is not as good off-field as Danger and Tex, Tex gets the job.

That is actually a very good post!

 

[Pugsley]

Rory had some interesting comments in this article by Caro.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...developing-into-a-stayer-20150220-13kuje.html



You see Tex and Danger taking in the new draftees to live with them, but you don't see this from Rory. I think Tex and Rory have everything on-field that Walsh wanted, Rory has the 'follow me' element, his shoulders never drop, he always acts as if the team can still win, Rory just didn't have the off-field mentoring that the other 2 blokes did. Danger doesn't really have the 'follow me' element, he tries but for whatever reason his big moments don't seem to lift the team, it's almost as if he's so freakish, when he starts doing the extraordinary the team thinks "danger will get us home" rather than "let's do what danger is doing" not sure if that is his fault or their fault.

So that's what it came down to, Danger is not as good on-field as Rory and Tex, Rory is not as good off-field as Danger and Tex, Tex gets the job.

Tex never forgets a supporters name and always greets you by name at the Alma. Top bloke.

 

[radiojake]

Tex never forgets a supporters name and always greets you by name at the Alma. Top bloke.

I wish I could say the same.. I forget people's names all the time....

 

[Paladin]

Rory had some interesting comments in this article by Caro.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...developing-into-a-stayer-20150220-13kuje.html



You see Tex and Danger taking in the new draftees to live with them, but you don't see this from Rory. I think Tex and Rory have everything on-field that Walsh wanted, Rory has the 'follow me' element, his shoulders never drop, he always acts as if the team can still win, Rory just didn't have the off-field mentoring that the other 2 blokes did. Danger doesn't really have the 'follow me' element, he tries but for whatever reason his big moments don't seem to lift the team, it's almost as if he's so freakish, when he starts doing the extraordinary the team thinks "danger will get us home" rather than "let's do what danger is doing" not sure if that is his fault or their fault.

So that's what it came down to, Danger is not as good on-field as Rory and Tex, Rory is not as good off-field as Danger and Tex, Tex gets the job.

I don't think that's quite right.

Tex has the onfield presence and follow me persona that's what it came down to for Walsh. Rory is easily as good as the others off field if not better no matter what he says. He just hasn't got that on field presence and game changing ability like Tex.

Tex has that Wayne Carey follow me and we win swagger. Just my opinion.

 

[1970crow]

I wish I could say the same.. I forget people's names all the time....

It's alright bro/chief/mate, I do it as well.

 

[1970crow]

I don't think that's quite right.

Tex has the onfield presence and follow me persona that's what it came down to for Walsh. Rory is easily as good as the others off field if not better no matter what he says. He just hasn't got that on field presence and game changing ability like Tex.

Tex has that Wayne Carey follow me and we win swagger. Just my opinion.

I very much like that he's comfortable knocking into opposition players at every available opportunity. It's that type of confidence in self and presence that gives your teammates around that little bit more confidence in themselves. My only concern with Tex is whether over-media training will result in the odd bit of tongue-tiedness. I'd prefer he answers honestly and frankly. It would be natural to not pot individuals, but I see no reason that he can't admit team disappointments and failings if asked. Not everything should be about doing some good things, but just not for long enough and we'll work on that on the track and be better next week. Sometimes it could be, yeh our goal-kicking was terrible, we won't win games of footy kicking like that. Next question. Yep, our defensive pressure across the ground was abysmal, we got cut up. Next question.

 

[Pdub]

According to a recent interview Walsh did, just re-played on 5aa, Sloane rang Walsh, after hearing Tex had been offered the captaincy, wanting the Job, gave him a list of things that he would bring to the club as captain. Walsh said he was very impressed that Sloane made the phone call but still went with Tex.

 

[SmegHead]

Walsh said the same to Hutchy on TSFS this weekend.

 

[ManInTheArena]

Is it just me or was Walsh a bit inappropriate disclosing that Sloane made "an impassioned phone call to plead his case for the role"?

It's not something I'd disclose and I feel a bit awkward for Sloane.

 

[CrowinNT]

I don't think it forms part of his man convo mantra.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Is it just me or was Walsh a bit inappropriate disclosing that Sloane made "an impassioned phone call to plead his case for the role"?

It's not something I'd disclose and I feel a bit awkward for Sloane.

Pretty sure that Sloane said it first on Sunday, so how can it be inappropriate if Sloane has already told the media about it?

 

[CrowinNT]

Was that on the AFL game day show ? Cant get it here.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Was that on the AFL game day show ? Cant get it here.

Yup thought it was on there. Someone has posted that up on Youtube and I think there was a link in a thread around here somewhere.

 

[Allefgib]

If sloaney had said it first... makes sense. In fact i'd say if they both said it.. pre-mediated.

 

[ManInTheArena]

Pretty sure that Sloane said it first on Sunday, so how can it be inappropriate if Sloane has already told the media about it?

Ah right. Didn't know that.

 

[Allefgib]

Ah right. Didn't know that.

If he said it first... I've seen no proof yet. Remain skeptical

 

[FR0GGY]

Looking at the paper today looks like tex has a tatt on his left calf/ankle. I thought we were cleanskins.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Looking at the paper today looks like tex has a tatt on his left calf/ankle. I thought we were cleanskins.

That's from his Broken Hill premiership.