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Yes
Was there
Clapped the boys off at 1/2 time
But to just roll over was so utterly absolutely pathetic
Sure they are better but the complete inability to sustain pressure to just basically compete
Soft does not describe what these clowns are putting up
Disgraceful

I was close to leaving at HT. We were getting smashed. For some reason we constantly overlook the way games are played across there 120 minutes.
 
Two reasons.

1. We do not have speed coming off HB to challenge opposition defences. Been saying it for 16 years now, but we are living in the age of speed and agility and we are left behind.

2. We do not trust our players to win one on one matchups or split the contest to be able to turn it into a positive outcome. Again, on the ground, a lack of speed and agility to get to position, defend position and create havoc.

3. Our half forwards and wings are a shambles. They don't present and don't spread to break the zone, meaning we have to methodically and torturously draw out a lead and short hit up every time.
 
I was waiting till midday today for the media leak that the team had up to 18 players suffering from serious illness on Saturday night. The fact it hasn’t come out concerns me.

Did it impact their brains?




Like most, was waiting to cleanup a few things at half time. That first 5 minutes of the third quarter killed that idea.
 

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More like this yeah? Its because we are a weak club and instead of giving a metaphorical back hander, we give cuddles. Its a joke

I agree. And the Suns are growing up and we are stagnating again and still being too lovie dovie. I also noticed the smiling faces in the club rooms after the latest debacle. Its only a game but really ?
 
I agree. And the Suns are growing up and we are stagnating again and still being too lovie dovie. I also noticed the smiling faces in the club rooms after the latest debacle. Its only a game but really ?
Noble was sacked because he would lose it. Would have to be a direction from the board.
 

North Melbourne v Sydney​


9 Will Hayward (SYD)
7 Riley Bice (SYD)
6 Brodie Grundy (SYD)
3 Joel Amartey (SYD)
2 Tom McCartin (SYD)
2 James Rowbottom (SYD)
1 Harry Sheezel (NMFC)
 
It’s never going to be a linear rise, there will be hurdles along the way with a young talented side. I was shocked at the second half as i genuinely felt you guys could take it right up to the swans. Best bit is that next week they get to atone for it and they are absolutely good enough to do that. Good luck in gather round up at the barossa, make sure to check out rockfords winery and st hugo to any red wine drinkers heading over.
What has been very linear is the Mighty NMFC finishing bottom 2 for the last 5 years and I don’t think that’s very fair. :stern look
 
We don't 'appear lazy'. We are lazy.
I was vocal about this post game, but looking at the tracker today we actually ran as far and as much as the swans.

The diff is offence vs defence. We are busting arse when we have the ball, not enough when we don’t.

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Here’s the attack vs defend

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So Sydney run as hard in defence as we do in attack, then take the foot off in offence and we just go with them.

In the Melbourne game our defence matched their offence.
 

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I was vocal about this post game, but looking at the tracker today we actually ran as far and as much as the swans.

The diff is offence vs defence. We are busting arse when we have the ball, not enough when we don’t.

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Here’s the attack vs defend

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So Sydney run as hard in defence as we do in attack, then take the foot off in offence and we just go with them.

In the Melbourne game our defence matched their offence.
Ask any champion of the game which side of this graphic they'd prefer their team to be on, and I reckon 100% would say Sydney's side. This actually disgusts me
 
3. Our half forwards and wings are a shambles. They don't present and don't spread to break the zone, meaning we have to methodically and torturously draw out a lead and short hit up every time.
its so frustrating to watch, given the middle the ground is the widest its the hardest to zone yet we can never find space to lead into, like clockwork bomb down the line or a dump kick or retreat putting ourselves under pressure where we cough it up and concede.

wash rinse repeat....


And dont get me started on how we never exploit the rule that has been in for years now that the marker on the kick out has to stand so far back, yet we always skip sideways out of the square and never take the 5 meters on offer and get extra penetration. drives me mad.
 
The putrid performance I watched on Saturday night has happened 100’s of times throughout my North Melbourne supporting experience. We have copped embarrassing losses like that in the Pagan, Laidley and Scott eras.

But every single time you could count on the fellas coming out the week after and absolutely smashing it. And I don’t think it come from the coach (well, maybe Pagan), but the players had too much pride and were embarrassed by their poor display, that they would give it all the next week. Our backs against the wall wins after terrible losses was legendary. Shinboner spirit stuff.

I have absolutely no faith at all that our boys were embarrassed by what they dished up. And in fact I’m tipping another belting.
 
I haven't read the thread yet, deliberately stayed away from Bigfooty and all footy media since leaving that debacle at 3/4 time. I don't want to comment on the game itself, as it's pretty obvious what most North supporters could say about it. But what has really pushed me over the edge was Clarko's press conference. FFS.

I was expecting some answers, some honest admissions and maybe even an apology. Coaches have to be mindful that they aren't just talking to annoying journos during those pressers. They are talking to the fans and members.

If Clarko came up with that rubbish during half time interview, I would have been ok with it, even though all the rubbish about Swans being more polished, us going too wide and allowing them to own the corridor is really ought to be on him. How the Fukk did he allow them to own the corridor? They had a very young team out there. And to be fair we did play with some endeavor in the first half and if not for a few mistakes and some rubbish umpiring could well have been in front.

But his presser was at the end of the game, not at half time. He completely failed to address the second half, and that wasn't about the corridor or polish. It was about us giving up, showing no effort and bringing disgrace to the jumper.

Now after that disgraceful performance and the shameful press conference I want to hear from the club. Maybe from the CEO who has been even less noticeable than our onfield improvement. Maybe from Sonja. Maybe from Todd Viney. But after Clarko failed to address that debacle, somebody damn well should.
That response from him was the first time I have really begun to doubt him. Even my other half, who never comments on these sorts of things, asked the same question. Is he the coach for us? Should we go after Simmo?

It was so not the right tone to have after THAT performance, which I am still angry about. HE should be angry. He wasn't. Why not???
 
That response from him was the first time I have really begun to doubt him. Even my other half, who never comments on these sorts of things, asked the same question. Is he the coach for us? Should we go after Simmo?

It was so not the right tone to have after THAT performance, which I am still angry about. HE should be angry. He wasn't. Why not???
I can only assume he says different things to the media and behind closed doors would be ripping them to shreds. Who knows...
 

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That response from him was the first time I have really begun to doubt him. Even my other half, who never comments on these sorts of things, asked the same question. Is he the coach for us? Should we go after Simmo?

It was so not the right tone to have after THAT performance, which I am still angry about. HE should be angry. He wasn't. Why not???

Why do people keep jumping to Simmo?

He's been good in the media but West Coast were horrible by the end of his tenure and tbh underperformed even when they were good.
 
Why do people keep jumping to Simmo?

He's been good in the media but West Coast were horrible by the end of his tenure and tbh underperformed even when they were good.
Simmo would be ideal as a head of strategy or opposition analyst or midfield coach or stoppages coach or something along those lines
 
From reports of some who were in the rooms, he did go off. Gave them a roasting.
I think more people need to understand that roasting your side in public does nothing to assist the side growing at this point. If anything, it continues to have the media focus on Clarko and away from the team, which any good leader understands. When the side is further along, like GC and Freo last year, then you can start to change the public messaging.

What is said behind closed doors is a totally different thing, and I have no doubt that the players aren't hearing "we need more polish" and "Sydney are great" on repeat.
 
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I think more people need to understand that roasting your side in public does nothing to assist the side growing at this point. If anything, it continues to have the media focus on Clarko and away from the team, which any good leader understands. When the side is further along, like GC and Freo last year, then you can start to change the public messaging.

What is said behind closed doors is a totally different thing, and I have no doubt that the players aren't hearing "we need more polish" and "Sydney are great" on repeat.
WE ARE THE STAKE HOLDERS. We are the ones that front up, pay hard earned money and have copped this bullshit year after year. I want him to publicly slay them or he can **** off.

I want to see him make a statement at selection or the club is pissing all over us
 
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