Football Related Random Thread - PART 2

[BuntonRules]

Enough of these draws. Just keep playing . Flash it up on the scoreboard or what, but just keep going till there is a score.

 

[MacMum]

Disagree.....I like the unexpected and disruption it plays out on the ladder. Can benefit some and completely displace another's position. Also, 2pts are better than none after a great game.
Like throwing a cat amongst the pigeons scenario

It adds another aspect to the game which is uniquely ours.

I do think it is necessary during the finals though

 

[KissKiss]

Regular season draws are great. Think its fitting to have two teams throw everything at each other and come out even

 

[MSB ROYS]

Regular season draws are great. Think its fitting to have two teams throw everything at each other and come out even

Agree 100%. Do need the draw song played though...

 

[Nathan Barley]

So much talent in one photo

 

[Elixuh]

I take slight issue with the Pies/Lions example. It’s borderline but Neale is already in the process of being tackled prior to gaining possession. Broadly, I’d like to see the time given for prior reduced but also a crack down on scragging and holding. I’d pay that holding against the Pies rather than HtB. Otherwise I think players will err on the side of pre-emptively holding and on the flip side other players won’t want to pick up the ball.

 

[Nathan Barley]

I take slight issue with the Pies/Lions example. It’s borderline but Neale is already in the process of being tackled prior to gaining possession. Broadly, I’d like to see the time given for prior reduced but also a crack down on scragging and holding. I’d pay that holding against the Pies rather than HtB. Otherwise I think players will err on the side of pre-emptively holding and on the flip side other players won’t want to pick up the ball.

Yeah I just look at those videos and see all the missed free kicks

 

[Tom14]

I take slight issue with the Pies/Lions example. It’s borderline but Neale is already in the process of being tackled prior to gaining possession. Broadly, I’d like to see the time given for prior reduced but also a crack down on scragging and holding. I’d pay that holding against the Pies rather than HtB. Otherwise I think players will err on the side of pre-emptively holding and on the flip side other players won’t want to pick up the ball.

The sheezel one is so funny - no HTB.

OF COURSE THERE IS NO HOLDING THE BALL HE NEVER HAS THE BALL AND HE IS TACKLED WITHOUT IT.

 

[Mr Ripper]

I take slight issue with the Pies/Lions example. It’s borderline but Neale is already in the process of being tackled prior to gaining possession. Broadly, I’d like to see the time given for prior reduced but also a crack down on scragging and holding. I’d pay that holding against the Pies rather than HtB. Otherwise I think players will err on the side of pre-emptively holding and on the flip side other players won’t want to pick up the ball.

First one: Holding the ball. Probably should be called even sooner.

Second: Arguably holding the man on Neale (there are more egregious examples of this at every second stoppage that absolutely should be penalised), but fair decision when that is disregarded

Third: Absolutely holding the ball. Wish they'd picked an example where the tackled player is the one who is actually holding the ball in himself.

Fourth: Should be holding the man to Sheezel wtf.

Fifth: Play on a fair decision, but wouldn't want to keep possession for too much longer.

A way, way overdue "redefinition" of the HTB no prior law.

Now, for holding the man and push in the back.

 

[Elixuh]

First one: Holding the ball. Probably should be called even sooner.

Second: Arguably holding the man on Neale (there are more egregious examples of this at every second stoppage that absolutely should be penalised), but fair decision when that is disregarded

Third: Absolutely holding the ball. Wish they'd picked an example where the tackled player is the one who is actually holding the ball in himself.

Fourth: Should be holding the man to Sheezel wtf.

Fifth: Play on a fair decision, but wouldn't want to keep possession for too much longer.

A way, way overdue "redefinition" of the HTB no prior law.

Now, for holding the man and push in the back.

Ok razor ray

 

[Tom14]

First one: Holding the ball. Probably should be called even sooner.

Second: Arguably holding the man on Neale (there are more egregious examples of this at every second stoppage that absolutely should be penalised), but fair decision when that is disregarded

Third: Absolutely holding the ball. Wish they'd picked an example where the tackled player is the one who is actually holding the ball in himself.

Fourth: Should be holding the man to Sheezel wtf.

Fifth: Play on a fair decision, but wouldn't want to keep possession for too much longer.

A way, way overdue "redefinition" of the HTB no prior law.

Now, for holding the man and push in the back.

I am totally fine with the change in interpretation if they ever crack down on holding the man. Which they won't!

 

[Sherrinator]

The issue isn’t holding the ball, it’s the tackle call needs to be sooner. Half those examples was no prior. It’s the umpire lets it go on when the guy with the ball was being tackled straight away. Whoever made that slide show is going to create a massive shitstorm. No one is going to be first to the ball anymore because they’ll be called holding!!

 

[AFLQLD]

I am excited to be able to watch a whole round that we aren’t playing in where umpires all butcher a new interpretation of a rule in such a way that no one knows what is and isn’t OK. Each interpretation will be randomly right or wrong depending on your viewpoint.

No one will be happy and after a few rounds the AFL will consider it all too hard and quietly tell umpires to make it up as they go along and stick with the “vibe” of the tackle so that it keeps the Vic media happy.

As a result, any Daicos, Bont, Danger or other media defined “superstar” who touches a player will get paid. Meanwhile two players from other teams will wrestle for ten seconds before the umpire loses interest and just balls it up.

In other words…same old.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Those more astute at footy than I, Grasshopper, may find this little snippet about how Collingwood plays compared to Hawthorn interesting. I tend not to notice these things until they’re pointed out and these small highlights are quite obvious once pointed out.

This is really interesting stuff, thanks for sharing. Hard to pick up on these things without being live at games or being able to access the behind the goals footage.

The way Mitchell is playing Ginnivan kind of reminds me of the way Richmond positioned Dusty Martin in his prime. How he would start as a midfielder, then after the centre bounce he'd drift forward and a team mate who started forward of the ball would exchange with him in general play to become a midfielder. Melbourne do something similar between Petracca and Neal-Bullen at times.

Ginnivan might not be playing as a midfielder per se. But it would be interesting to see if Hawthorn have someone covering for him, ie whether another forward is being instructed to always stay on the open side of the ground. Or whether they are happy to simply play in straight lines all the time.

It could simply come down to the fact that Collingwood wanted a guy like Elliott or Hill to play the role that Ginnivan is now playing at Hawthorn. Maybe some poor kid at Hawthorn right now is silently complaining about the "dark old days in our forward line" where he is constantly being told to "hold his width" and hardly ever getting a kick as a result.

 

[Dalions]

Those more astute at footy than I, Grasshopper, may find this little snippet about how Collingwood plays compared to Hawthorn interesting. I tend not to notice these things until they’re pointed out and these small highlights are quite obvious once pointed out.

I think it might be something more often referred to as ‘holding your width’.
Something that Collingwood do very well and something we don’t.
Their wingers and forwards held their width far better than us in the Grand Final and ultimately, what won them the game imo.

 

[dlanod]

I am excited to be able to watch a whole round that we aren’t playing in where umpires all butcher a new interpretation of a rule in such a way that no one knows what is and isn’t OK. Each interpretation will be randomly right or wrong depending on your viewpoint.

No one will be happy and after a few rounds the AFL will consider it all too hard and quietly tell umpires to make it up as they go along and stick with the “vibe” of the tackle so that it keeps the Vic media happy.

As a result, any Daicos, Bont, Danger or other media defined “superstar” who touches a player will get paid. Meanwhile two players from other teams will wrestle for ten seconds before the umpire loses interest and just balls it up.

In other words…same old.

Umpires: E Schrödinger, W Heisenberg, A Einstein

 

[AFLQLD]

Umpires: E Schrödinger, W Heisenberg, A Einstein

Shrodinger both does and doesn’t hate the Lions.

 

[BuntonRules]

As a fan watching games this season, I have seen a shift to give players so much time to dispose of the ball. I reckon this whole thing is something of the AFL's own creation - and the changes are just going back to how it has always been interpreted.

 

[BuntonRules]

AFL week as p..., as usual

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/oth...r&cvid=8af9fa1874f047f3b1a43bda0642eb19&ei=42

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/afl...r&cvid=8520165baecb45a1bb061d8e9c1c2cd8&ei=11

 

[martinson]

AFL week as p..., as usual

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/oth...r&cvid=8af9fa1874f047f3b1a43bda0642eb19&ei=42

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/afl...r&cvid=8520165baecb45a1bb061d8e9c1c2cd8&ei=11

Hard to see how you would use those words within clear earshot of the person whom you are aggrieved against and were apparently just directing it at thin air.

He's got a wrap sheet a mile long for the same thing but most people can't be bothered going through the aggravation and attention that accompanies a complaint.

Class A Bully Boy.

 

[martinson]

Without making too big a thing of this with all the talk the AFL has put out there about respecting umpires and trying to attract young people to taking it on when put to the test they've just folded like a deck of cards.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Leigh right again; more frees in a game equals more free flowing footy and less stoppages which so many people have been saying and have known for years, except the AFL and umpires department albeit a small sample size.

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Old mate Mr Rip only 25 years ahead of everyone else...

Umpiring - are they underdoing it??

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[Tom14]

Old mate Mr Rip only 25 years ahead of everyone else...

Umpiring - are they underdoing it??

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Rip can you make Ned Guy stop trying to fix the formula for his 2021 Collingwood List Strategy Excel sheet and bring in a "new" rule to make holding someone without the footy a free kick?

 

[Elixuh]

Old mate Mr Rip only 25 years ahead of everyone else...

Umpiring - are they underdoing it??

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Oh my its like reading Bigfooty if the posters on here were well adjusted and could speak in complete sentences. I want no part of that world.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Old mate Mr Rip only 25 years ahead of everyone else...

Umpiring - are they underdoing it??

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Always banging on about holding the ball. Why don't you change your name to that?