Freo's trading and drafting

[Kram]

We are going to get Bootma in the PSD and unleash him forward.

 

[ep2018]

Yeo wanted to come to Fremantle.

No he didn't. Wanted to come to West Coast because he thought he would be starting 22 here (which he is). Massive freo fan though.

 

[Sweetback]

Keep talking about how "Ross" has a secret plan ripe for finals, or how good Taberner is...

Reality is, this group has missed a flag. I'm about the only one who'll admit it on there.

Did you go through my posting history to dig that up, you sad little bastard.

 

[Kram]

OP is also a pencil necked hipster.

 

[DrEvil_]

I'm not someone who subscribes to the nuff nuff mentality of 'support means blind support for your team.' I think fans should be angry at losses and be vocal about their disappointment in players, coaches, management, and decisions. No good will ever come from idly sitting by and accepting all club decision as positive, or excusing poor performances or inadequate coaches.

I sit here as a Fremantle supporter after two weeks of trading. This comes after a few years of consistent top four finishes, one lost Grand Final, a straight-sets exit in 2014, and a pretty flat 2015 campaign. The ultimate insult comes via the Eagles – the cross-town rivals with a lesser coach, who only a few years ago were spooners, making the Granny this year.

The most obvious issue for anyone with eyes and Channel 7 is our forward line. It's too small. There is one key forward, Pav, who has been an undeniable stalwart and hero for the club. At 33, he's the sole target, and cops double teams and constant attention, despite carrying shit-to-average teams for 15 seasons.

This is no new revelation. Pavlich isn't jumped from age 25 to 30 in one year. Freo's poor scoring hasn't existed for one year.

So, why, in 2015 does Fremantle go after an in-contract player belonging to a club who staunchly say no to him leaving?

Why would a recruitment team, in their last year of premiership mode, go after a single target in their biggest problem area?

Why has Bond, or as Dockers sycophants call him, "Bondy," pulled absolutely 0 key forwards in the last five years? There's been Buddy, Cloke, Jack Riewoldt, probably Cameron, for a little while Dixon. These guys have all been offered the luuudicrous rarity of a premiership contender and at least a million bucks a season. Yet no one has come and no one has even looked like coming. There's clearly a negative perception regarding Freo, and its lack of success is paramount in that, and the club has no one to blame.

But ******* seriously... why the **** did this club spend its energy and man power going after a player who was never going to get to leave?! How is this acceptable? There were lesser options in Black from North and Casboult from Carlton. They weren't even touched on.

In any other job, if you fail to succeed in your one target area, you are sacked.

How can Bond and Fremantle co-exist for so long?

It's not just that but its trading... Colin ******* Sylvia. No one else. It misses out on Yeo and Jetta to the Eagles – even WA boys don't like Fremantle.

What is the issue with Freo? Will anything ever aide them in being able to pull Victorians? Is the club too arrogant and happy with its membership numbers and Fyfe Brownlows to look at itself and where it stands? Basically – has their ever been a shitter set of recruiters at a 'successful' club?

Trust me, you don't want to touch that one.

 

[Back One Out]

I'm not someone who subscribes to the nuff nuff mentality of 'support means blind support for your team.' I think fans should be angry at losses and be vocal about their disappointment in players, coaches, management, and decisions. No good will ever come from idly sitting by and accepting all club decision as positive, or excusing poor performances or inadequate coaches.

I sit here as a Fremantle supporter after two weeks of trading. This comes after a few years of consistent top four finishes, one lost Grand Final, a straight-sets exit in 2014, and a pretty flat 2015 campaign. The ultimate insult comes via the Eagles – the cross-town rivals with a lesser coach, who only a few years ago were spooners, making the Granny this year.

The most obvious issue for anyone with eyes and Channel 7 is our forward line. It's too small. There is one key forward, Pav, who has been an undeniable stalwart and hero for the club. At 33, he's the sole target, and cops double teams and constant attention, despite carrying shit-to-average teams for 15 seasons.

This is no new revelation. Pavlich isn't jumped from age 25 to 30 in one year. Freo's poor scoring hasn't existed for one year.

So, why, in 2015 does Fremantle go after an in-contract player belonging to a club who staunchly say no to him leaving?

Why would a recruitment team, in their last year of premiership mode, go after a single target in their biggest problem area?

Why has Bond, or as Dockers sycophants call him, "Bondy," pulled absolutely 0 key forwards in the last five years? There's been Buddy, Cloke, Jack Riewoldt, probably Cameron, for a little while Dixon. These guys have all been offered the luuudicrous rarity of a premiership contender and at least a million bucks a season. Yet no one has come and no one has even looked like coming. There's clearly a negative perception regarding Freo, and its lack of success is paramount in that, and the club has no one to blame.

But ******* seriously... why the **** did this club spend its energy and man power going after a player who was never going to get to leave?! How is this acceptable? There were lesser options in Black from North and Casboult from Carlton. They weren't even touched on.

In any other job, if you fail to succeed in your one target area, you are sacked.

How can Bond and Fremantle co-exist for so long?

It's not just that but its trading... Colin ******* Sylvia. No one else. It misses out on Yeo and Jetta to the Eagles – even WA boys don't like Fremantle.

What is the issue with Freo? Will anything ever aide them in being able to pull Victorians? Is the club too arrogant and happy with its membership numbers and Fyfe Brownlows to look at itself and where it stands? Basically – has their ever been a shitter set of recruiters at a 'successful' club?

Jeez mate… As Denis Pagan used to say… Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!


2015 ladder
Frem 17-5
WCE 16-5-1
Haw 16-6
Syd 16-6
Rich 15-7
W.B 14-8
Adel 13-8
NM 13-9
Port 12-10
Geel 11-9-1
GWS 11-11
Coll 10-12
Melb 7-15
St K 6-15-1
Ess 6-16
G.C 4-17-1
Bris 4-18
Carl 4-18



10 mins into the 4th qtr of the Prelim Final

Fremantle 9.6.60
Hawthorn 11.3.69

Hawks by 9 pts, but Freo with all the momentum.

 

[Tazzaye]

Cloke for Fyfe sanks

 

[La Dispute]

10 mins into the 4th qtr of the Prelim Final

Fremantle 9.6.60
Hawthorn 11.3.69

Hawks by 9 pts, but Freo with all the momentum.

Isn't that his main argument though? They can get near enough, but can't capitalise in the finals in part due to not having enough options in their forward line.

 

[peppy la pew]

Keep talking about how "Ross" has a secret plan ripe for finals, or how good Taberner is...

Reality is, this group has missed a flag. I'm about the only one who'll admit it on there.

You are such a maverick

Stick to sipping soy lattes in Fitzroy and wandering through the gardens soaking up the rich culture that Melbs has to offer, maybe lash out and grab a sixy.

 

[peppy la pew]

Cloke for Fyfe sanks

SA would probably do that

 

[coniglio_number1]

You are such a maverick

Stick to sipping soy lattes in Fitzroy and wandering through the gardens soaking up the rich culture that Melbs has to offer, maybe lash out and grab a sixy.

The gardens are beautiful. How is this an insult?

 

[The King!]

You got Gumbleton that time

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

The gardens are beautiful. How is this an insult?

No one understands the gardens like Hipsters though because they are campaigners.

 

[Andre]

Because other clubs also need key forwards, so they aren't going to let them leave easily?

Should have got Schulz imo. Don't know exactly what happened there but Freo being unable to get him is probably more indicative of any underlying problems than not getting Riewoldt/Cameron/McCarthy.

Schulz for 2016 and 2017, McCarthy for 2018 onwards, meanwhile try to find a Taberner/Apeness to improve to have a good duo up forward would have been reasonable.

Schulz was wavering, but in the end chose less money and years to stay in his home state and remain loyal to mates and club.

Yes, Freo need a KPF, but how often do they move clubs? Outside of Free Agency genuine quality KPFs (not rucks who play forward at times) once every few years. Share that 1 every few years amongst 18 clubs. Not getting KPFs is understandable, it's the general inability to attract class (without issues before Bennell is raised), that's the issue. Having Boyd last year and Dixon this year is a blue moon event to have two quality KPFs in subsequent years.

Though have Freo offered up quality players ever to lure a KPF? If not a direct swap then to get a top 2 or 3 pick the last 4-6 years to clubs with them? Freo could get a KPF, but won't pay the price - quality players in return. You can't blame them for that.

 

[g_TRAIN]

For starters, you're a flog.

Secondly, I suspect it's the gameplan that isn't that attractive to key power forwards.

But saying 'successful' as if we have no claim to the word, cast your eyes back just a decade and the growth has been phenomenal. No doubt due to the presence of Lyon. Not to mention you tried to pass off Fyfe's achievements as unimportant. Get real mate.

This

 

[adelaidecrows]

Isn't that his main argument though? They can get near enough, but can't capitalise in the finals in part due to not having enough options in their forward line.

Isn't the Ross way ultra defensive and score through turn overs. Ross only has himself to blame for not getting more forwards. He has had how many years to recruit?

 

[Kram]

Isn't the Ross way ultra defensive and score through turn overs. Ross only has himself to blame for not getting more forwards. He has had how many years to recruit?

He's the coach, not the list manager..

 

[adelaidecrows]

He's the coach, not the list manager..

Still needs to communicate the game plan to the recruiting staff. The recruiting staff aren't going to get certain types of players if they don't fit into the game plan.

 

[Van_Dyke]

He's the coach, not the list manager..

It's as if he shot someone to the way some of them go on.

 

[run jre]

Gotta admit with each passing off season I seem to lose a bit more faith with the current recruiting plan/team. Just feels like the KPP issue has been going on forever...

 

[SBYM]

I reckon it's those inflatable anchors scaring off the potential trades.

 

[GWBogan]

This is always a good read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremantle_Football_Club_drafting_and_trading_history

 

[Valleyboy9]

He's the coach, not the list manager..

Must have been coaching McArthy during today's trade period as he was over in Melbourne with the list manager.

 

[GroggSquad]

OP speaks truth. And it seems other delusional Freo fans in this thread arent prepared to stomach it.

Richmond are the same. Missing opportunity for contention through pathetic trading. Really disappointed in my club

 

[The Speaker]

This is always a good read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremantle_Football_Club_drafting_and_trading_history

Whose alias are you?