List Mgmt. Fyfe - Signed until 2023!!

[Allikat]

What if it's 1.5 million?

You pay it!

 

[meima]

You pay it!

Nope negotiate . 1.3 m is the highest , if he loves the club money should not be the only motivation for him . 200k should share among Weller , Blakely and langdon contract extension or 3 rookie list players.

 

[Sweetback]

I didn't get dumped, I dumped him!

- St Kilda

Or
'He isn't as good as he used to be.'

 

[Docker82]

I think we can forget losing Fyfe anyway. His lack of form is being completely overstated IMO. He's not going to win Brownlows playing like this but he has had injury interrupted pre seasons the last two years. Neale is the only player we have that comes close to Fyfe for current output and consistency. Fyfe isn't as fit as he once was IMO and that's not through a lack of effort. Assuming any injuries he's carrying have low recovery times and he doesn't pick up any major injuries before seasons end I'm confident he can with a full pre season get back to the form where he contending for Brownlows and hopefully helping Freo contend for finals (on next year just being realistic - few big holes to fill before we aim higher).


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[JohnW]

He could get around that, and fortunately Freo has a relatively young list (and will get younger as guys like Dawson/D.Pearce/Griffin are cut at the end of the season) and should have cap space to accommodate.

That's exactly what I said

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[JohnW]

Is Collingwood projected to have cap space?

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[scon]

Soon to be 75 pages to say he'll sign for Freo.

 

[Allikat]

Is Collingwood projected to have cap space?

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Yes. They have a heap of capspace after trading cloke & losing swan last year

 

[wild side]

Certainly reads to me like St Kilda asked the question at the start but were rejected straight away so moved on. Martin will sign as well so it's Kelly or much lesser players for St Kilda.

Kelly aint lesser nothing.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Is Collingwood projected to have cap space?

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Possibly but they're in absolute no mans land list wise. Signing Mayne and Wells would suggest they think they can win a flag in the next couple years when there's 0 chance of that.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

You pay it!

Nope. He's not deserving of 1.5 Million. If Nat loves the club as much as he likes to let on, he'll know 1.5 is way overs for him. He hasn't shown he's worth that much anymore.

 

[wild side]

True he's not worth $1.5 at the moment

 

[JohnW]

Yes. They have a heap of capspace after trading cloke & losing swan last year

You wouldn't put it past Eddie going all in and trying to pinch a flag with pendelbury (sp?) He has the nuts to try and pull that off.

Not saying I think nat will end up there

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[Moist Biscuit]

True he's not worth $1.5 at the moment

2015 Fyfe no problem I would pay it. I just can't help bit get a little disappointed when looking at Nats while situation, No offence to Fyfe but the way this whole contract saga has played out has given me a Fyfe-FIGJAM vibe.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

You wouldn't put it past Eddie going all in and trying to pinch a flag with pendelbury (sp?) He has the nuts to try and pull that off.

Not saying I think nat will end up there

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I don't think he's what they need at all though. The 1.5 a year that will be necessary to get him over would be better spent on something more for their average forward line. It's legit up there with ours as the worst in the league.

 

[JohnW]

I don't think he's what they need at all though. The 1.5 a year that will be necessary to get him over would be better spent on something more for their average forward line. It's legit up there with ours as the worst in the league.

I may be off but I'm really bullish or Moore. And think Fasolo Is good as well. I think they are ok if the midfield is fantastic.

If they got Fyfe as a free agent (massive offer) then trade this year's pick for a more developed forward?

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[Moist Biscuit]

I may be off but I'm really bullish or Moore. And think Fasolo Is good as well. I think they are ok if the midfield is fantastic.

If they got Fyfe as a free agent (massive offer) then trade this year's pick for a more developed forward?

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Yeah but Moore isn't going to dominate for another 2 or 3 years, I'm not sure spending all this cap space is essential right now. I just think Fyfes the wrong age profile for Collingwood and they're not that far ahead in terms of list profile for him to think they're that much closer to a flag. Just won't happen imo.

 

[Docker82]

Kelly aint lesser nothing.

Never said he wasn't. Only benefit of Martin or Fyfe over Kelly is the minimal chance that Richmond or Freo don't match the contract. He has benefits over either of them. In top form they are all hard to split. I said Kelly OR lesser players referring to guys like Hopper, Whitfield, Kennedy etc. These guys will still be very good players but they are not in the top 5-10 players in the league like Kelly is.

 

[JohnW]

Yeah but Moore isn't going to dominate for another 2 or 3 years, I'm not sure spending all this cap space is essential right now. I just think Fyfes the wrong age profile for Collingwood and they're not that far ahead in terms of list profile for him to think they're that much closer to a flag. Just won't happen imo.

Dat midfield tho

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[youmewe]

You can tell we just lost with some of the crazy trade Fyfe ideas in here.

The guy is our captain! Our brownlow medalist! He's given both shoulders and 2 broken legs to this club! He has shown he can be the best player in the comp, and has the potential to get to that level again. And you know he'll always play to the best to his ability because he wouldn't let himself play any less. When Fyfe's ready to sign, and comes to the club with a $$ figure, you just shut up and pay him what he wants.

Well he started it.
He said he'd die for Freo.
We're holding him to his word...piece by piece.

 

[G Mus]

St Kilda officially out of the race I'd say

Even if it is just them saving face

 

[Lach72]

"Ten players have averaged 25 disposals, five clearances, seven score involvements, and a dozen contested possessions in 2017. Name them #AFL"

"Head start: Nat Fyfe is one of them [emoji12] #AFL"

Now if he can hit his straps...

 

[Cobbler]

"Ten players have averaged 25 disposals, five clearances, seven score involvements, and a dozen contested possessions in 2017. Name them #AFL"

"Head start: Nat Fyfe is one of them [emoji12] #AFL"

Now if he can hit his straps...

It's interesting isn't it. A quick peak and the stats just show how brilliant Fyfe was previously, because there's no doubt he's nowhere near his best yet his stats are still excellent when compared to other mere mortals.

Here's a few of interest:
* 8th for contested possessions in the league. Ahead of that beast Martin.
* Out of all the top 20 players for contested possessions, he is second for 1%ers.
* Out of those same 20 players he is well ahead with contested marks at 15. Next best is the much lauded Dangerfield and Martin on a paltry 10 each.
* Out of those 20 players he is 5th best with disposal efficiency! Oliver, Neale, Selwood and Pendelbury are ahead of him. No one questions their disposal.

He is down on tackles and clearances, but both of those possibly attributed to the fact he spends some time forward.

I'd like more output from him when forward.

He's definitely lost that spring and explosiveness, but he did break a leg twice, so we could probably give him until next year to get back to his best.

 

[salim malik]

It's interesting isn't it. A quick peak and the stats just show how brilliant Fyfe was previously, because there's no doubt he's nowhere near his best yet his stats are still excellent when compared to other mere mortals.

Here's a few of interest:
* 8th for contested possessions in the league. Ahead of that beast Martin.
* Out of all the top 20 players for contested possessions, he is second for 1%ers.
* Out of those same 20 players he is well ahead with contested marks at 15. Next best is the much lauded Dangerfield and Martin on a paltry 10 each.
* Out of those 20 players he is 5th best with disposal efficiency! Oliver, Neale, Selwood and Pendelbury are ahead of him. No one questions their disposal.

He is down on tackles and clearances, but both of those possibly attributed to the fact he spends some time forward.

I'd like more output from him when forward.

He's definitely lost that spring and explosiveness, but he did break a leg twice, so we could probably give him until next year to get back to his best.

BF logic, if you can't walk on water you're stuffed.

 

[Rion]

"Ten players have averaged 25 disposals, five clearances, seven score involvements, and a dozen contested possessions in 2017. Name them #AFL"

"Head start: Nat Fyfe is one of them [emoji12] #AFL"

Now if he can hit his straps...

To be fair those stats there are literally his bread and butter. Similiar to calling Sandi one of the best ruckman this year solely based on his tap numbers.

To my eye he's pretty far off it and is playing a much more workhorse type role than when he is at his absolute best. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping like hell he gets back to it but playing as he is right now I would have a lot of midfielders in the comp ahead of him