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[mighty_lions]

Yes, they Aboriginal community need to work on something positive for the site which they are doing
A bit of give and take will happen but find a suitable solution.

Utilize part of the site/studium outlying the Aboriginal history so people can be educated including their own people.
A total history of the site should be included elsewhere.
I am sure something of this nature will happen.

A protest camp of this nature was bound to happen as it is fairly usual. Maybe SVP ex Brisbane Lord Mayors will join in

Just a matter of how the Government responds.
A calm response rather than a rant from the Premier is needed.
Easy enough for the LNP to state that negotiations are underway with one agreement already signed.
Or maybe the LNP leave it up to GIICA to handle as i think they have handed to site over to them

haha no chance Campbell Newman and co are roughing it in a tent

 

[Perrip]

Ffs

They have an instagram account. Found out a few things: They've been told only 75% of the park will be closed come June 1, Yorks Hollow won't be one of the areas closed off (which is different to what stadium opponents have long claimed), and GIICA are doing cultural heritage testing on site.

 

[weevil]

They have an instagram account. Found out a few things: They've been told only 75% of the park will be closed come June 1, Yorks Hollow won't be one of the areas closed off (which is different to what stadium opponents have long claimed), and GIICA are doing cultural heritage testing on site.

Just for some perspective on how completely out of touch with reality some of the discussion is.

Here is a picture from Herston to the Brisbane CBD across Victoria Park, looking south, circa 1936.

See the city hall clock tower off in the distance. Herston Rd is in the immediate foreground. Just up from that is Gilchrist Av, and up from that the Ekka train line. And you can see Gregory Tce along the ridge at the top of the park.

Notice how the park wasn't actually a pristine untouched forest, and that it looks abso****ingloutly nothing like it does today?

That rough bit of dirt the red arrow is pointing at? That's a very special - some would even say new age cosmic spiritual spot. Because when they built the ICB they needed somewhere to collect the runoff water. So they dug that section out and sealed it with concrete and called it...York's Hollow...

As you can tell from the very special nature of its creation, it's a very precious, magical place, and its cultural value to Brisbane is off-the-charts incalculable. Of course, it must be protected at all costs.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Just for some perspective on how completely out of touch with reality some of the discussion is.

Here is a picture from Herston to the Brisbane CBD across Victoria Park, looking south, circa 1936.

See the city hall clock tower off in the distance. Herston Rd is in the immediate foreground. Just up from that is Gilchrist Av, and up from that the Ekka train line. And you can see Gregory Tce along the ridge at the top of the park.

Notice how the park wasn't actually a pristine untouched forest, and that it looks abso****ingloutly nothing like it does today?

That rough bit of dirt the red arrow is pointing at? That's a very special - some would even say spiritual spot. Because when they built the ICB they needed somewhere to collect the runoff water. So they dug that section out and sealed it with concrete and called it...York's Hollow...

As you can tell from the very special nature of its creation, it's a very precious, magical place, and its cultural value to Brisbane is off-the-charts incalculable. Of course, it must be protected at all costs.

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You're right. York's Hollow actually referred (part tense) to the entire gully - a string of waterholes. Not the single waterhole left over from subsequent development.

I don't for a second downplay the indigenous peoples connection to land. I've been lucky enough to meet and talk with some Aboriginal elders and when they talk of that connection they truly believe it. But part of the irony is that one of the main claims to indigenous history of the area was that it was used as a gathering place, which is exactly what it will be. And I can't see a way in which whatever Arup come up with won't acknowledge the indigenous history of the place.

 

[weevil]

You're right. York's Hollow actually referred (part tense) to the entire gully - a string of waterholes. Not the single waterhole left over from subsequent development.

I don't for a second downplay the indigenous peoples connection to land. I've been lucky enough to meet and talk with some Aboriginal elders and when they talk of that connection they truly believe it. But part of the irony is that one of the main claims to indigenous history of the area was that it was used as a gathering place, which is exactly what it will be. And I can't see a way in which whatever Arup come up with won't acknowledge the indigenous history of the place.

Yeah, that’s not at all to dismiss the cultural significance of Barrambin. It is real and deserves genuine respect.

The statutory consultation process with the legally recognised traditional owners is progressing. Blaklash is there specifically to guide First Nations engagement through the entire project. GIICA has committed to Country-centred design, with the Turrbal and Jagera people determining the cultural narratives expressed throughout the precinct.

The York's Hollow we see today is in a broadly similar location to the original waterholes, but is not those waterholes. The original waterways were progressively diverted and the old waterholes were used as rubbish dumps. The current body of water is a concrete stormwater detention basin constructed to manage ICB runoff.

Claims about ancient springs and natural waterways bear no resemblance whatsoever to what is actually there.

 

[Section 5]

Brisbane council signs historic Sister City deal with Los Angeles - Inside Local Government

Brisbane City Council has announced a new landmark Sister City partnership with the world’s next host of the Olympic and Paralympic Games, Los Angeles. The Council says the agreement with Los Angeles will be critical in helping build a lasting legacy for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic...

insidelocalgovernment.com.au

“This is a big deal and Brisbane now has an incredible opportunity to work with a global economic powerhouse and build a better Brisbane for today, the Games and beyond.”

Under the agreement, Brisbane and Los Angeles will share information about policy operations and innovation, undertake joint research and projects to build organisational capacity, facilitate business delegations and joint tourism promotions and share cultural and educational programs.

The nine key focus areas of the new Brisbane-Los Angeles agreement are:

• Civic administration
• Urban planning and mobility
• International and multicultural engagement
• Economic development, trade and investment
• Digital and technology innovation
• Liveability and community development
• Cultural, educational, youth and sporting initiatives
• Major events and tourism promotion
• Resilience and Sustainability

The new partnership will mark Los Angeles’ first and only Australian Sister City relationship.

 

[Section 5]

Apparently, Albion is going to be 2nd biggest interchange hub behind Roma Street

Any posters catching a train via Albion notice lots of preparation work being carried out the last few years

The below project is only set to commence Q1 of 2026.
I assume it does not include the major track works needed that are probably well underway by QR
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Below from Transport and Main Roads

Albion Train Station Precinct Redevelopment​

The department owns a number of properties in Albion which were acquired for the Northern Transport Corridor in the 1970s. These properties are no longer required and TMR undertook an open market process to identify a developer to deliver transport infrastructure improvements and transit oriented development on the sites. The tender process is now complete and the successful developer – Albion TOD Pty Ltd represented by Geon Property, is working with TMR to progress the project.

The project scope will see the developer:

• design and construct a mixed-use transit oriented development integrated with Albion Train Station and the wider area
• work with the state to optimise the design and location of commuter car parking (to ensure no net loss of park'n'ride) and undertake construction of the necessary works
• integrate with a section of North Brisbane Bikeway through the precinct
• integrate with the New Albion Station rail-to-rail interchange project.

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Albion TOD Pty Ltd represented by Geon Property awarded the $1 billion project

Albion Exchange

Shaping the Extraordinary

geon.au

 

[weevil]

Apparently, Albion is going to be 2nd biggest interchange hub behind Roma Street

Any posters catching a train via Albion notice lots of preparation work being carried out the last few years

The below project is only set to commence Q1 of 2026.
I assume it does not include the major track works needed that are probably well underway by QR
............................................................................................
Below from Transport and Main Roads

Albion Train Station Precinct Redevelopment​

The department owns a number of properties in Albion which were acquired for the Northern Transport Corridor in the 1970s. These properties are no longer required and TMR undertook an open market process to identify a developer to deliver transport infrastructure improvements and transit oriented development on the sites. The tender process is now complete and the successful developer – Albion TOD Pty Ltd represented by Geon Property, is working with TMR to progress the project.

The project scope will see the developer:

• design and construct a mixed-use transit oriented development integrated with Albion Train Station and the wider area
• work with the state to optimise the design and location of commuter car parking (to ensure no net loss of park'n'ride) and undertake construction of the necessary works
• integrate with a section of North Brisbane Bikeway through the precinct
• integrate with the New Albion Station rail-to-rail interchange project.

.....................................................................................................
Albion TOD Pty Ltd represented by Geon Property awarded the $1 billion project

Albion Exchange

Shaping the Extraordinary

geon.au

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The old "You build us a fancy station, and we'll gift you some land to build fancy apartments" public-private partnership. TMR have five of them on the boil atm.

I doubt there is time left for any mega new games-focused P-P-P infrastructure announcements like this. But I'm hopeful that there may be some related to building the pedestrian and active travel corridors around Victoria Park and across the city. They are the final part of the transport puzzle we need.

I think giant platforms spanning train lines in the concept below are way too ambitious. But I think it’s probably highly likely they give a developer some apartments and get them to build something like the walkway on the bottom left that follows the path of the Normanby Bikeway down to Roma Street.



That would be some pretty awesome legacy for Brisbane. It would give people a 25-minute, fully grade-separated, flat walk from the stadium/park to the Roma Street Station platforms. That would be a legitimate game day tradition for many people.



The pedestrian corridor to Fortitude Valley Station is the much harder problem. The constraints of the dense urban environment are very real. It’s a super important artery, and I haven't seen a convincing solution yet.

But if anyone can find one, it's Arup. They are legit the best of the best when it comes to complex transport engineering stuff, and their ability to fix these sorts of issues is presumably exactly why they are getting the big bucks.

 

[Keays2myBeamas]

Huge amounts of residential development will go into that area of the Valley over the next 10-20 years.

If we actually wanted to be a world class city, the proper long term solution for that horrible section of Brunswick St is to drop all the through traffic down into a trench (between Gregory & St Paul’s Tce) and pave over the top it, pedestrianising the whole section from Wickham St to Gregory Tce - extending the Brunswick St mall all the way to Gregory Tce and creating a proper sub tropical mall well connected by rail stations at either end. (The private retail potential would help fund some of it of course).
Something that would actually get done if we were a Vienna or an Amsterdam, but won’t because we’re Brisbane.

 

[weevil]

Huge amounts of residential development will go into that area of the Valley over the next 10-20 years.

If we actually wanted to be a world class city, the proper long term solution for that horrible section of Brunswick St is to drop all the through traffic down into a trench (between Gregory & St Paul’s Tce) and pave over the top it, pedestrianising the whole section from Wickham St to Gregory Tce - extending the Brunswick St mall all the way to Gregory Tce and creating a proper sub tropical mall well connected by rail stations at either end. (The private retail potential would help fund some of it of course).
Something that would actually get done if we were a Vienna or an Amsterdam, but won’t because we’re Brisbane.

Yeah, that whole stretch needs to be blown up, or we are going to end up with two great precincts right next to each other with a toilet in between.

Pending a tunnel they could complete from scratch in six years, I’m not sure what they are going to do.

There just isn’t room for the pedestrian corridors, and even without a tunnel, I can’t see how they get the urban transformation they need done in time to make it work.

 

[Perrip]

Huge amounts of residential development will go into that area of the Valley over the next 10-20 years.

If we actually wanted to be a world class city, the proper long term solution for that horrible section of Brunswick St is to drop all the through traffic down into a trench (between Gregory & St Paul’s Tce) and pave over the top it, pedestrianising the whole section from Wickham St to Gregory Tce - extending the Brunswick St mall all the way to Gregory Tce and creating a proper sub tropical mall well connected by rail stations at either end. (The private retail potential would help fund some of it of course).
Something that would actually get done if we were a Vienna or an Amsterdam, but won’t because we’re Brisbane.

BCC is currently doing up a new precinct plan for the Valley.
Fortitude Valley Sustainable Growth Precinct Plan

 

[MSB ROYS]

BCC is currently doing up a new precinct plan for the Valley.
Fortitude Valley Sustainable Growth Precinct Plan

About time. IMO a lot of the problems lie with building neglect though. Clean it up and then encourage business to move back in - retail and office.

 

[Section 5]

There is plenty of room for a wide pedestrian walkway along this red path.
Under the bridge (or main road) also has plenty of width and height. I have checked out under this bridge.
The land required would be owned by QR, BCC and Energex so should not be a problem

Green also gets you under the bridge to Exhibition Station to break up the crowd.
Depending on the intersection lights if they are red or policed you have a choice

 

[weevil]

There is plenty of room for a wide pedestrian walkway along this red path.
Under the bridge (or main road) also has plenty of width and height. I have checked out under this bridge.
The land required would be owned by QR, BCC and Energex so should not be a problem

Green also gets you under the bridge to Exhibition Station to break up the crowd.
Depending on the intersection lights if they are red or policed you have a choice

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Oh yeah, I'm positive your entire red dot zone will have bombs dropped on it. That entire route to Ekka Station / King Street will be as wide, direct and flat as humanly possible.

Also, keeping in mind that according to the renders, the second ICB footbridge will be where the blue box is.



None of it can be average; the whole world will be watching. Entrances to the park can't just be a slapped-together bunch of half-arsed, crappy paths and ugly roads.

With the stadium and park redevelopment, the Ekka precinct redevelopment, the Valley revitalisation, the QUT redevelopment and all the connected walkways to join them all together, it's an absolutely phenomenal amount of work.

The entire area will be a massive construction zone for years.

 

[Section 5]

Interesting video on LA 2028

 

[mighty_lions]

Interesting video on LA 2028

I am a car guy, I drive everywhere, for the 3 weeks I was in Paris I didn’t miss have a car a single day, the metro system they have is incredible

They also had in venue maps in trains of where to go and signs all through the stations and volunteers

 

[Perrip]

Brisbane residents back ‘Green Grid’ of shaded pathways as top 2032 Games legacy

Brisbane residents have backed a plan to develop a network of shaded tree-lined pathways to connect key 2032 Games venues and inner city precincts as their top legacy project.
Nearly 20,000 people over six weeks cast their vote in Brisbane City Council’s Making Our Mark campaign to help shape the city over the next six years.
From 56 ideas the top five were: The Green Grid, connecting venues and destinations with safe, shaded links; The Low Line, transforming underused space into an activated precinct; 24-hour precincts, to boost the night-time economy, the Brisbane Metro expansion and Loving the Leftovers, creating urban sports parks from underused land.
...
Council will now incorporate the campaign’s feedback into the City of Brisbane Legacy Plan, set to be released later this year.
The plan will be a blueprint for developers, the private sector and governments to partner with council and invest in projects

 

[weevil]

Brisbane residents back ‘Green Grid’ of shaded pathways as top 2032 Games legacy

The #1 and #2 community picks for 2032 legacy are both about walkability, which pretty much says everything.

Extensions to Metro and other bus networks etc., are great and all. But the Green Grid is what will change the whole feel of Brisbane forever.

 

[M Malice]

The #1 and #2 community picks for 2032 legacy are both about walkability, which pretty much says everything.

Extensions to Metro and other bus networks etc., are great and all. But the Green Grid is what will change the whole feel of Brisbane forever.

I do a bucket load of walking around Brisbane City and nearby inner suburbs, there are some fantastic walking options already, but yes we can always do with more.

Walking from either the Story or Grey street bridge to the Olympic stadium site is all footpaths beside very busy roads walking so a lot to do in that space.

 

[peetoo]

Brisbane residents back ‘Green Grid’ of shaded pathways as top 2032 Games legacy

Wondering how they will treat separation of pedestrians and cyclists if large volumes are anticipated

We know the qld govt have got themselves in a pickle over e bike hoons

 

[M Malice]

Wondering how they will treat separation of pedestrians and cyclists if large volumes are anticipated

We know the qld govt have got themselves in a pickle over e bike hoons

I'd be for banning E bikes and scooters on footpaths, they are a bloody menace, some I see around the place are definitely not speed governed... I thought they had to be.

 

[peetoo]

I'd be for banning E bikes and scooters on footpaths, they are a bloody menace, some I see around the place are definitely not speed governed... I thought they had to be.

The issue is hooning. Do they limit access to cars because of hoons?

Pointedly it’s boomers who are revolting to the govt heavy handed approach

 

[M Malice]

The issue is hooning. Do they limit access to cars because of hoons?

Pointedly it’s boomers who are revolting to the govt heavy handed approach

I would not have much of a problem with them if they were speed governed, I walk a lot and a lot zoom past you at a scary speed, there have been bad injuries from bike/scooter pedestrian collisions, not sure on deaths.

I go to Melbourne regularly and I am pretty sure they have severe restrictions on them, last visit I did not see any on Melbourne CBD footpaths... Just googled it >

E-Scooters in Melbourne CBD

• Privately Owned Scooters: Legal to ride, but must comply with Victorian road rules.
• Shared/Hire Scooters (Lime/Neuron): Banned from the City of Melbourne municipality (including the CBD) as of September 24, 2024.
• Rules for Private E-Scooters:
  • NO Footpaths: It is illegal to ride on footpaths (fines exceed $300).
  • Where to Ride: Use bicycle lanes, shared paths, and roads with a speed limit up to 60km/h.
  • Speed Limit: Maximum speed is 20km/h.
  • Helmet: A helmet is mandatory.
  • Age: Riders must be at least 16 years old.
  • Alcohol: Drink/drug driving laws apply (0.05 BAC limit)
• _______________________________
• Are you a boomist?

 

[Section 5]

One of the submissions dated March 2026
I think we have seen something like this before. maybe it has been updated for this BCC feedback.

https://www.architecture.com.au/wp-content/uploads/RPT_GPGP_Brisbane_Making-our-Mark-Submission_FINAL_20250313.pdf

'Making our Mark' Green Grid submission strengthens call for a greener Brisbane legacy - Australian Institute of Architects

The Australian Institute of Architects, Queensland Chapter, together with the Australian Institute of Landscape Architects, Planning Institute of Australia and Design Institute of Australia, has lodged an a supplementary 2032 […]

www.architecture.com.au

 

[peetoo]

I would not have much of a problem with them if they were speed governed, I walk a lot and a lot zoom past you at a scary speed, there have been bad injuries from bike/scooter pedestrian collisions, not sure on deaths.

I go to Melbourne regularly and I am pretty sure they have severe restrictions on them, last visit I did not see any on Melbourne CBD footpaths... Just googled it >

E-Scooters in Melbourne CBD

• Privately Owned Scooters: Legal to ride, but must comply with Victorian road rules.
• Shared/Hire Scooters (Lime/Neuron): Banned from the City of Melbourne municipality (including the CBD) as of September 24, 2024.
• Rules for Private E-Scooters:
  • NO Footpaths: It is illegal to ride on footpaths (fines exceed $300).
  • Where to Ride: Use bicycle lanes, shared paths, and roads with a speed limit up to 60km/h.
  • Speed Limit: Maximum speed is 20km/h.
  • Helmet: A helmet is mandatory.
  • Age: Riders must be at least 16 years old.
  • Alcohol: Drink/drug driving laws apply (0.05 BAC limit)
• _______________________________
• Are you a boomist?

Punish the hoons not the devices.
I go slow past walkers especially the ones who look unpredictable. Families dogs etc
But on your own on stretches something like the lilydale Warburton rail trail with great visibility go for it
An empty path past driveways also needs caution. I hate roads the stats don’t favour cyclists

I’m just interested do know how these green pathways will handle congestion. Pedestrians bikes e-bikes scooters

As an aside I hope the Melbourne SRL stations also have active transport links. I guess there won’t be room for commuter car parks