Geelong – most loved to most disliked?

[JUBJUB]

I used to like the Geelong team, but now they come across as arrogant, some of their kids are yet to achieve something and yet display the same arrogance. I heard a stat that animal abuse cases go up in Geelong, when the team loses, surely not cats

Who ?

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Plenty of people had the Cats as their second-favourite team during the flag era of 2007-11 and rightly so.

nope. not me. especially after some of the geelong fans here went beyond belief in some of the shit theyd say as well as ones i knew personally. their arrogance was sickening considering they hadnt won a flag in decades and they were our bitches throughout the nineties. i disliked them the minute they smashed us in 07 and absolutely hated them after the 2008 thrashing.

success does that to people though, people will be jealous of those who succeed and it coincided with our downfall which made the pain even worse.

dont worry geelong i didnt hate you as much as the blues especially from mr judd. visy and pratt. that was another level reserved simply for them.

i still has this bit of disdain for them but respect for them for what theyve achieved. they shouldve done a three peat but the likes of the hawks who i dont mind, collingwood (that was a grand final and more) and sydney (gained a lot of respect from them after 09 still i hate losing to them) made it a lot more interesting. if geelong won it every year since 07 i wouldve stopped watching the game

 

[Art Vandelay_]

No. We didn't play the man. Take your hooped glasses off. Where's your evidence?

I agree the frees don't have to be split down the middle. But they should be awarded based on play and not based on what jumper is being worn.

See below the quote from umps boss Kennedy sums up the free kick count quite accurately. By jumper worn I hope you aren't implying we recieve favouritism, we are middle of the road for frees for this season.

Secondly in terms of the frees for and against differential over the course of the season. Fremantle are 18th.. So maybe there is a valid reason as to why you lose the free kick count so regularly... Crowley, Ballantyne spring to mind.

It's quite sad that Geelong resorted to playing for frees, rather than trying to win legitimately. That was the difference in the game. They are not a better team. They are cheats.

Yes Geelong missed some chances towards the end. Fremantle missed more.

Face it,after the last two minutes, Geelong had the control of the umpire's whistle for the first two quarters. It was the most one sided display of free kicks being awarded since 2001. IMO.

The fact we led for at least 90% of the game suggests we were the better team, yes you could of pinched it.... but we're not as inept as Carlton in that department.

Rather than trying to win legitimately you say... hmm.. we beat you on the outside hence the +30 in uncontested possessions. We beat you in disposals and yet while having the ball more often.... still beat you in tackles.

While you won hitouts and clearances... which would be expected with Sandilands.

In the end though only a couple of numbers really matter Geelong 81 Def Fremantle 79

How can we be cheats for getting free kicks within the rules, your argument doesn't stack up as, in case you haven't noticed Geelong players don't pay the free kicks... the umps do and the quote below gives an insight into how free kicks are awarded.

I didn't mention Selwood. Christensen, Johnson, Bartel, Mackie. They were the worst ducking and diving offenders.

lol just lol.

Selwood doesn't duck as much as shrug the shoulders and draw contact. He would continue to do it even if he never got a free from the action, as it is an effective way to get out of a tackle. So not cheating, for mine. But he shouldn't get a free if he initiates contact to his head.

I actually don't think he ducks, he generally gets high frees in 2 ways.

A: by lifting the shoulders as you say.
B: by getting in and under for the hardball get etc etc

regardless both scenarios, players should learn how to tackle properly

The umpires boss actually conceded that overall, Geelong got one more free that it deserved; this could be 10 undeserved frees and nine missed. Similarly Fremantle should have got four more; this could be 8 missed and 4 undeserved. he supports my argument, that the umpires interpretation of Geelong's simulation was the difference between the teams. They certainly changed the way they adjudicated the game after half time. So face it, your team of cheats are a disgrace. You need to change your song. This is not the club that JK Watts wrote the song about.

The afl umps boss Hayden Kennedy didn't make reference of the breakdown, but simply he said you should have received 4 more free kicks, us 1 less. However he didn't specify which ones they were.

He also made mention that "if you get your head in first you generally get a free kick, we don't go by free kick counts we go by what happens on the ground"

 

[Sttew]

I used to like the Geelong team, but now they come across as arrogant, some of their kids are yet to achieve something and yet display the same arrogance. I heard a stat that animal abuse cases go up in Geelong, when the team loses, surely not cats

To be honest, arrogance is the last thing I'd accuse the Geelong team collectively of. As Jub Jub asked, to who do you refer out of the youngsters?

Arrogance is an offensive display of superiority. Despite the success GFC has enjoyed everyone in recent times, I reckon the players have displayed humility

 

[Collingwoodity]

I don't like Scarlett. Seems like a dog of a bloke.

Johnson is a sniper.

Selwood is a professional diver.

Harley is a bigger flog than Darcy, Dwayne Russell, Eddie, Maher and Wayne Carey put together.

Their coach in Scott is a whinger also.

The rest are ok.

Rooke was my favourite. Loved the way he went about it.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

there's more coming from the opposing VIC teams, seems to be all those ladder predictions pre season of Geelong struggling to make the 8, or sliding, has caused a lot of vitriol as the team looks set to have another crack at a premiership.

We'll fall one day Bobby... ****ed if I know what year that will be... It isn't this year and I'm confident it won't be 2015-16...too much talent in this group.

Imagine the party from opposition fans when we finally do miss the 8

 

[Sttew]

Selwood is a professional diver.

Now that's the first I've heard of this one.

As an aside, I think he rates golf as one of his hobbies

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I don't like Scarlett. Seems like a dog of a bloke.

you still upset at what he said about the extremely overrated Maxwell?? Surely punching Ballantyne is a mark in his favour??

Johnson is a sniper.

he does do stupid things, wouldn't think any of them are serious enough to warrant a Sniper tag.

Selwood is a professional diver.

Selsy has been accused of many things but he doesn't dive.... That's up Lindsey Thomas' alley that one.

Harley is a bigger flog than Darcy, Dwayne Russell, Eddie, Maher and Wayne Carey put together.

He's not great in the media, having met him though, he's a great bloke .

Darcy is only the 2nd worst on Saturday nights because he has BT (seriously feel sorry for Lingy).
Dwayne is annoying.
Eddie I don't mind as a commentator (provided its not a collingwood game, and he leaves his agendas at the door).
Maher and Carey are meh, I'm indifferent to them myself.

The rest are ok.

Rooke was my favourite. Loved the way he went about it.

Many cats fans are with you on that one. if I could clone 1 footballer Rooke would be the one I'd choose.

 

[Collingwoodity]

you still upset at what he said about the extremely overrated Maxwell?? Surely punching Ballantyne is a mark in his favour??

he does do stupid things, wouldn't think any of them are serious enough to warrant a Sniper tag.

Selsy has been accused of many things but he doesn't dive.... That's up Lindsey Thomas' alley that one.

He's not great in the media, having met him though, he's a great bloke .

Darcy is only the 2nd worst on Saturday nights because he has BT (seriously feel sorry for Lingy).
Dwayne is annoying.
Eddie I don't mind as a commentator (provided its not a collingwood game, and he leaves his agendas at the door).
Maher and Carey are meh, I'm indifferent to them myself.

Many cats fans are with you on that one. if I could clone 1 footballer Rooke would be the one I'd choose.

The Maxwell bit is part of it. Maxwell can't be overrated when so many people don't rate him. Scarlett seems like a shit bloke all round.

Selwood and Shuey are brilliant duckers and dodgers and divers.

Harley is nowhere near as indifferent to Geelong's performances as say Richardson is to Richmond's or even Ling is to Geelong. Also his comments are mudane and boring but should not be criticised for that so much.

Johnson is a bit of a sniper and a bit of a flog. Not as bad as some make out.

As I said, the rest are fine.

 

[Sttew]

Selwood and Shuey are brilliant duckers and dodgers and divers.

Give us ONE example where Selwood dived....just one. I'll even let you go back as far as 2007.....just one

 

[Art Vandelay_]

The Maxwell bit is part of it. Maxwell can't be overrated when so many people don't rate him. Scarlett seems like a shit bloke all round.

Selwood and Shuey are brilliant duckers and dodgers and divers.

Harley is nowhere near as indifferent to Geelong's performances as say Richardson is to Richmond's or even Ling is to Geelong. Also his comments are mudane and boring but should not be criticised for that so much.

Johnson is a bit of a sniper and a bit of a flog. Not as bad as some make out.

As I said, the rest are fine.

each to their own... but I won't accept the diving tag for Selwood, his peers consistently rate him for his courage, hence the 3 AFLPA most courageous player awards... if he dived like Thomas he wouldn't so highly respected amongst his peers.. Correct??

 

[Collingwoodity]

Give us ONE example where Selwood dived....just one. I'll even let you go back as far as 2007.....just one

each to their own... but I won't accept the diving tag for Selwood, his peers consistently rate him for his courage, hence the 3 AFLPA most courageous player awards... if he dived like Thomas he wouldn't so highly respected amongst his peers.. Correct??

I meant ducking and diving his head. Not staging.

Stupid and Courageous.

 

[JUBJUB]

Selwood is a professional diver.

Perhaps he could dive down and rescue Collingwoods season as that's drowning at a fast rate

BTW according to the Bigfooty nuffies he's a ducker,not a diver

 

[Collingwoodity]

Perhaps he could dive down and rescue Collingwoods season as that's drowning at a fast rate

BTW according to the Bigfooty nuffies he's a ducker,not a diver

No offence but if Pendlebury can't do it it is unlikely Selwood or even Ablett could.

 

[Borussia Teeth]

Perhaps he could dive down and rescue Collingwoods season as that's drowning at a fast rate

BTW according to the Bigfooty nuffies he's a ducker,not a diver

That's actually pretty funny - good call. For what it's worth, I'd love Joel Selwood at Collingwood.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Selwood is a professional diver.

That's what she said

 

[GeelongFTW]

It was an incorrect decision and luckily for Geelong he didn't convert his set shot. What's that got to do with anything? What was your take on the SJ dive which resulted in a goal?

maybe you should have left mackie all alone 50m from goal?

 

[Clems Knee]

See below the quote from umps boss Kennedy sums up the free kick count quite accurately. By jumper worn I hope you aren't implying we recieve favouritism, we are middle of the road for frees for this season.

Secondly in terms of the frees for and against differential over the course of the season. Fremantle are 18th.. So maybe there is a valid reason as to why you lose the free kick count so regularly... Crowley, Ballantyne spring to mind.


The fact we led for at least 90% of the game suggests we were the better team, yes you could of pinched it.... but we're not as inept as Carlton in that department.

Rather than trying to win legitimately you say... hmm.. we beat you on the outside hence the +30 in uncontested possessions. We beat you in disposals and yet while having the ball more often.... still beat you in tackles.

While you won hitouts and clearances... which would be expected with Sandilands.

In the end though only a couple of numbers really matter Geelong 81 Def Fremantle 79

How can we be cheats for getting free kicks within the rules, your argument doesn't stack up as, in case you haven't noticed Geelong players don't pay the free kicks... the umps do and the quote below gives an insight into how free kicks are awarded.

lol just lol.

I actually don't think he ducks, he generally gets high frees in 2 ways.

A: by lifting the shoulders as you say.
B: by getting in and under for the hardball get etc etc

regardless both scenarios, players should learn how to tackle properly


The afl umps boss Hayden Kennedy didn't make reference of the breakdown, but simply he said you should have received 4 more free kicks, us 1 less. However he didn't specify which ones they were.

He also made mention that "if you get your head in first you generally get a free kick, we don't go by free kick counts we go by what happens on the ground"

You clearly received favouritism in that game. The week before Leigh Fisher adjudicated in a prejudicial manner against Fremantle and for Carlton, in particular Marc Murphy. There is a problem in the umpiring ranks, the umpires boss may not want to expose it, but he has given hints of his concern. Ballantyne had three kicks paid against him in the Geelong game, but has averaged one free for the last 5 years. Have a look at the frees, and decide for yourself if they were all warranted. Hint: they weren't. Crowley also had three kicks paid against him, compared to an average of 1 or 2 frees against in the last 5 years.

Fremantle often get beaten in disposals, or tackles, but find ways to win. Funnily enough, they often don't win the clearances, this was a real problem against Carlton.

But you didn't get free kicks within the rules. You got free kicks despite the rules. Bartel ducked his head so as to cause contact to the tackler. The correct decision is play on, but. Bartel got his first goal. His second goal also came as a result of a duck, but this time the Fremantle players avoided contact and Bartel threaded the goal. The AFL addressed this situation clearly at the end of last season, but the umpires chose to ignore the rules.
Same goes for Christensen and Mackie. Johnsons head duck was comical. Johnson was also guilty of staging for free kicks on a number of occasions. That is not within the rules. It is cheating.

I have already said that I don't think Selwood cheats in the same manner, although I don't think he should get a free kick for his patented shoulder shrug. Should be Play on, tried to draw head contact. But that is not the current interpretation, so it's not cheating.

Nice quote by Kennedy. But there is a difference between putting your head over the ball, and leading with your head. The real danger is that AFL or lower grade players playing the Geelong way will suffer serious neck or head injuries. We saw an Adelaide player doing the Geelong duck and almost break his neck.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

I could ask you the very same question in regards to Clarke on Johnson behind the ball?

. . . the kind of crap he was copping all night long, which the media preferred not to highlight.

I'm astonished a Geelong supporter posted that gif.

Pathetic from SJ. Guys have been chesting up to each other all day long for ever. That was a pure dive from SJ.

Terrible look.

 

[Dazb86]

I quite like Geelong still. It's amazing they are still a quality side despite the host of players that are the wrong side of 30 + the quality of the players that have left/retired.

 

[estibador]

I'm astonished a Geelong supporter posted that gif.

Pathetic from SJ. Guys have been chesting up to each other all day long for ever. That was a pure dive from SJ.

Terrible look.

One of many.

 

[manboob]

Harley is a bigger flog than Darcy, Dwayne Russell, Eddie, Maher and Wayne Carey put together.

Rooke was my favourite. Loved the way he went about it.

You call Harley a bigger flog than Darcy - and then go drop that line on us...

 

[Hawkforce]

I'm astonished a Geelong supporter posted that gif.

Pathetic from SJ. Guys have been chesting up to each other all day long for ever. That was a pure dive from SJ.

Terrible look.

Jordan Lewis publically apologised after pulling a similar stunt. Looks like the serial kicker, kneeler and diver Stevie J gets away with another one

 

[manboob]

Got away with what? Did he get a free kick? Lewis only apologised cause the media turned the heat up on him, not cause "he's a good bloke"... FFS

 

[Hawkforce]

Got away with what? Did he get a free kick? Lewis only apologised cause the media turned the heat up on him, not cause "he's a good bloke"... FFS

Precisely - and yet again the media didn't turn the heat up on Sj cos "he's just like that"

Yep - he's exactly like a diving, cheating, sniping prick...