Geelong rorting the system

[STPer18]

lulz.

That AFLW chick was the patsy, the decoy. The real rort will happen when we land Marshall, Curnow and Butters.

#Marshall2Butters2Curnow.

No doubt she'll be adequately compensated for taking the fall. Our entire AFLW program is essentially a dummy corporation.

 

[Xtreme]

so you think the rort is that Geelong also controls the multinational Big 4 accounting firm Ernst & Young?

Its Geelongs fault that Bambi's mother was shot!

 

[RPCB]

Um, no.

Unless you have information the media haven't reported.

The media have reported on all the relevant bits

“But it did find "a series of non-disclosures and/or late disclosures of arrangements with club associates and third parties, that were required to be reported to the AFL".”

That’s literally what Geelong supporters in here have conveniently left out of your posts. Unfortunately for you, that’s going to be quoted by opposition supporters for the rest of time.

 

[RPCB]

No doubt she'll be adequately compensated for taking the fall. Our entire AFLW program is essentially a dummy corporation.

Don’t joke. It probably is.

 

[AFaiL]

Classic fluff interview on SEN with SHocking and his mate Garry.... How perfectly timed all this has been

Never change AFL

Anybody care to look into Bisnella land sales? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

 

[RCAB]

Just a scummy cheat club.

Always have been. Had Dank associations and around the late 2007-2011 used to get a lot of umpiring assistance, they seem like they're starting to again.

 

[RCAB]

I’m sure Geelong would never do any dodgy AF third-party payments.

Don't bother replying

 

[Andyy]

I don't buy the bullshit from GFC.

Club has prior form here. There are clearly significant third party payments made to players to entice them to play for the club and they are ongoing and not reported. The financial sanctions are useless. The first one should have been 10x ($400k) and this subsequent one should come with draft sanctions as well.

If the AFL is in any way serious about TPP and transparency then all contracts should be public and all third party payments to all players should be included in TPP during the playing career.

Cats whacked with $40K fine for ‘inadvertent administrative error’

Cats whacked with $40K fine for ‘inadvertent administrative error’

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[joe444]

The media have reported on all the relevant bits

“But it did find "a series of non-disclosures and/or late disclosures of arrangements with club associates and third parties, that were required to be reported to the AFL".”

That’s literally what Geelong supporters in here have conveniently left out of your posts. Unfortunately for you, that’s going to be quoted by opposition supporters for the rest of time.

Oh dear. That's literally what we ARE quoting.

You're the one claiming they are third party player payments

 

[HairyO]

No doubt she'll be adequately compensated for taking the fall. Our entire AFLW program is essentially a dummy corporation.

Collingwood's netball team was the true dummy corp. Used the excuse of the netball team to spend a heap of money to make improvements which helped the AFL team but didnt have to be included in the soft cap. Then when the upgrades were done, they ditched the netball team.

Like in the NRL when Manly merged with North Sydney. As a part of the merger, Manly had all their crippling debts cleared by the NRL. Then after 2 years Manly split from North Sydney and went back to being a standalone team with zero debt.

This definitely wasnt managed by all the Manly people who were running the NRL at the time.

Its hilarious that people think anything anywhere is above board.

 

[FootyLad0]

“The Extended Audit found, on the basis of the information obtained and reviewed by the AFL, that the Club did not breach the AFL TPP Limit nor the AFL player movement rules in any season within the timeframe assessed.“

BUMP

 

[RPCB]

Oh dear. That's literally what we ARE

Good to see you haven’t had a stroke and ninja added the rest of your post.

quoting.

You're the one claiming they are third party player payments

 

[voorhees]

You think consulting firms are 3rd parties? How cute. You should check out this for a little education:

Brilliant show ...the finest Australia has to offer.

 

[joe444]

Smoking gun?

 

[joe444]

Good to see you haven’t had a stroke and ninja added the rest of your post.

I know, right? Pretty quick by you, too!

I'll add "ninja add" to my vocabulary, too.

 

[RCAB]

The media have reported on all the relevant bits

“But it did find "a series of non-disclosures and/or late disclosures of arrangements with club associates and third parties, that were required to be reported to the AFL".”

That’s literally what Geelong supporters in here have conveniently left out of your posts. Unfortunately for you, that’s going to be quoted by opposition supporters for the rest of time.

Precisely

“Non-disclosures and/or late disclosures of arrangements with club associates and third parties” that’s not some clerical oopsie about lunch receipts. That’s AFL speak for financial benefits linked to players that weren’t disclosed in time... or at all.

That is the definition of a TPP compliance breach.. not on cap limits, but on reporting integrity, which underpins the whole cap mechanism.

EY can only audit what it’s handed. If arrangements are deliberately off-book, or funnelled through club-adjacent entities (sponsors, farms, finance roles, AFLW shells), then the “no breach” line becomes performance theatre.

The outcome is the same:
- Players received benefits not transparently linked to their total remuneration
-These weren’t reported properly
-And the AFL’s “punishment” was a symbolic fine with no football consequence

You don’t have to say the word “rort” when the structure does it for you.

 

[joe444]

Precisely

“Non-disclosures and/or late disclosures of arrangements with club associates and third parties” that’s not some clerical oopsie about lunch receipts. That’s AFL speak for financial benefits linked to players that weren’t disclosed in time... or at all.

That is the definition of a TPP compliance breach..

Literally, mate, it's not. Unless you've come up with a new understanding of what "definition" is.

It was
(a) a bottle of wine (gift) not declared. Hardly something that can indirectly be siphoned to salary boosting.
(b) the training camp for academy players at a property owned by a club associate. Club should have declared the relationship.

We're also talking about a forensic audit involving phones, emails, laptops etc. Now, I know how this works. You'll find this as proof that Geelong wiped the laptops and, therefore, the very definition of a conspiracy.

 

[1990crow]

Adelaide fined 5x Geelongs amount
Lost 2 years of 1st and 2nd round picks
Lost an elite key forward for no return

Vs
Effectively no consequence.

This the VFL shit we are talking about

 

[Sttew]

I always think of this.

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Understandable. Not much else to think about when you follow WCE

 

[joe444]

Adelaide fined 5x Geelongs amount
Lost 2 years of 1st and 2nd round picks
Lost an elite key forward for no return

Vs
Effectively no consequence.

This the VFL shit we are talking about

Adelaide found guilty of draft tampering.

 

[DangerSloane]

But hey, let's not allow the facts to get in the way of the hysteria amongst posters.

My Top 5 'WTF' posts thus far, and forgive me for paraphrasing some of the posts:

1. What Geelong did is the same as Adelaide's draft tampering and salary cap breaches in 2012
2. Former Geelong employee finds Geelong has done no wrongdoing.
3. The AFL don't even try and hide their own biased corruption
4. The AFL said Geelong has been systematically cheating for six years not one offs.
5. I've never been less surprised to be here. This is the Carlton salary scandal all over again.

Interesting they are your 'wtf posts' but all of them are true, besides maybe the comparison to the Carlton salary scandal.

 

[voorhees]

Adelaide fined 5x Geelongs amount
Lost 2 years of 1st and 2nd round picks
Lost an elite key forward for no return

Vs
Effectively no consequence.

This the VFL shit we are talking about

Your club has every right to be angry.
Should also be making alot more noise about the issue.

 

[Do the Dew]

Adelaide fined 5x Geelongs amount
Lost 2 years of 1st and 2nd round picks
Lost an elite key forward for no return

Vs
Effectively no consequence.

This the VFL shit we are talking about

Ehh, Tigers got a 100k fine cause 2 players went to get kebabs.

 

[Erakor]

I honestly thought this was common knowledge ? Geelong using third party payments to lure players.

Running gag regarding cotton on etc

 

[Mr Meow]

When those threads are started, I am sure people will discuss those.




You’ve just proved my point.

“Geelong were found guilty of not having lodged some third party player payments and yet, Cats supporters in their posts where they’ve listed what the audit found, have completely left that one out.”

The paperwork with the woman's car was acknowledged right from the start. That was the initial breaking news. It turns out a few laptops and mobiles in the men's team were the big discovery to add onto that.

The early pages of this thread seemed to suggest systematic salary cap breaches and TPP cheats were about to be unravelled. Instead we got the equivalent of a teacher letting a kid take a pen home from school without making a note of it.