Geelong vs pies final should not be at the mcg.

[Corn Cobbers]

But you can deny the team that finished first from having a large quantity of the Geelong supporter base who attend all GMHBA home games from attending.

No-one seems to like the fact that we have our own home ground but it doesn't change the fact that we do. We finished first, it should be our home game.

How exactly is this Geelong supporter base denied a chance to attend the MCG?

 

[dangerwood]

Well mate, what response were you after, I said there was an article, was there or not?

The rest of what you said is just gibberish.

Apologies mate. Maybe you're not aware but there is an ongoing dialogue that is often used on big footy declaring that Hocking has rigged the competition in Geelongs favour, I was making a joke that if Hockings happy for us to play at the G then that contradicts the usual debate most opposition supporters make about him rigging the comp.

You confused me with your response by saying "well if he is rigging the comp why are you arguing with him?" Because I do not think he is rigging the comp.

Takes the wind out when you have to explain.

 

[AndyD]

But you can deny the team that finished first from having a large quantity of the Geelong supporter base who attend all GMHBA home games from attending.

No-one seems to like the fact that we have our own home ground but it doesn't change the fact that we do. We finished first, it should be our home game.

Why would Geelong be treated any different to any other Victorian club and have their reserved seat members keep their seats for the finals? Melbourne members don’t get to keep their reserved seats this week, so why would Geelong be any different if they got to play there?


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[Perth Cat 11]

Do we train there? Is it painted black and white? MCG belongs to everyone, and in a final both sides have the same access to tickets

Yes it is. You choose to sell 9 home games to another stadium, like Hawthorn choose to sell 4 games to Tasmania. Obviously you still play finals at your home ground, the MCG.

Geelong ask for 11 home games at KP and get 9 including the country game which is at the MCG- with one exception. Don’t hold up to any level of scrutiny.

 

[dangerwood]

How exactly is this Geelong supporter base denied a chance to attend the MCG?

Because it is a pain in the ass going compared to home games in Geelong.

I don't really care that much. I don't even know why I'm arguing, probably because it's a long two weeks. It's just personally annoying, I live 800m from GMHBA so I love home games, I get to have few beers. My team finished first so I personally want them to play at home because it suits me.

It sucks balls catching the train to the G.

I suspect the experience may be similar for some of the players. You guys train across the road every day so it's a very easy and normal process for them to walk over to the G. In Geelong the players would have a similar level of comfort/routines for our home games.

It's just a bit irritating that we finished first but it feels like we have to come to you.

 

[dangerwood]

Why would Geelong be treated any different to any other Victorian club and have their reserved seat members keep their seats for the finals? Melbourne members don’t get to keep their reserved seats this week, so why would Geelong be any different if they got to play there?


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I'm referring to those living in Geelong, surf coast and Bellarine. It's a lot more difficult to get to the game as opposed to our home games.

 

[maskmcgee]

Geelong themselves declared they want to play their finals at the MCG, case closed.

 

[dangerwood]

Geelong themselves declared they want to play their finals at the MCG, case closed.

I am Geelong. I do not declare this.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Because it is a pain in the ass going compared to home games in Geelong.

I don't really care that much. I don't even know why I'm arguing, probably because it's a long two weeks. It's just personally annoying, I live 800m from GMHBA so I love home games, I get to have few beers. My team finished first so I personally want them to play at home because it suits me.

It sucks balls catching the train to the G.

I suspect the experience may be similar for some of the players. You guys train across the road every day so it's a very easy and normal process for them to walk over to the G. In Geelong the players would have a similar level of comfort/routines for our home games.

It's just a bit irritating that we finished first but it feels like we have to come to you.

Where exactly do you think most of our supporters live? East Melbourne?

No, they live in far-flung places like Pakenham, Belgrave and Epping and it takes just as long to get to the ground from there as it does from Geelong

Stop being a sook and be grateful you get 9 × 800m walks to games every year and a true home ground atmosphere

I'd give a pinky toe to have our Vic Pk home games back

 

[dangerwood]

Where exactly do you think most of our supporters live? East Melbourne?

No, they live in far-flung places like Pakenham, Belgrave and Epping and it takes just as long to get to the ground from there as it does from Geelong

Stop being a sook and be grateful you get 9 × 800m walks to games every year and a true home ground atmosphere

I'd give a pinky toe to have our Vic Pk home games back

Calm down mate. I was conceding. It is fantastic having games so close to me that's why I want it at home.

 

[AndyD]

I'm referring to those living in Geelong, surf coast and Bellarine. It's a lot more difficult to get to the game as opposed to our home games.

I’m not sure that’s a serious argument and certain that it should not be a real consideration for a fully professional sporting comp. Having the greatest amount of people possible being able to go to a final is way more important to the AFL than the convenience of people attending games from the surf coast.


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[dangerwood]

I’m not sure that’s a serious argument and certain that it should not be a real consideration for a fully professional sporting comp. Having the greatest amount of people possible being able to go to a final is way more important to the AFL than the convenience of people attending games from the surf coast.


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Yeah but it's the AFL not a fully professional sporting comp.

 

[CrowToon]

HGA is not a thing because of crowds, it's due to ground dimensions. Crowds can influence umpiring somewhat but let's be clear, the idea that the GF is neutral is a fallacy.

 

[AndyD]

What rubbish. Geelong playing in melburne aint neutral. our fans are always dramatically downed out by the opposition in melbourne. Even against teams with little supporters like north. Home fan support has been found to have a massive positive impact on results. It sways umpires and it helps motivate teams and reduce mental pressure. This always works against geelong in melbourne. And theres is also added travel factor as well. It may not be interstate travel but it aint nothing,

You know you’re grasping at the thinnest of straws when claiming travel from Geelong is a factor for professional athletes.

It is truly bizarre to see someone portray their fan base/club in such a negative light in an attempt to gain sympathy for your “plight”. Tickets are allocated evenly to finals matches at the MCG. So you are only being drowned out (and from my experience in 08/09, it certainly didn’t feel that way as a supporter of a low drawing team) because not enough of your supporters care enough to attend and would rather make excuses about the distance instead. 72k mostly Geelong supporters showed up to the 1st Semi Final against West Coast in 1992 (an increase of 20k from the previous year when the same two teams played @ Waverley in the prelim on a miserable wet day), when it was much harder to travel between Geelong and Melbourne. Given how much easier it is to get between the two now, it seems like it is just lazy Geelong supporters complaining and not really a valid issue at all.

 

[AndyD]

HGA is not a thing because of crowds, it's due to ground dimensions. Crowds can influence umpiring somewhat but let's be clear, the idea that the GF is neutral is a fallacy.

I think crowds can influence umpires in certain situations, but certainly agree with you re ground dimensions. However teams who base a game plan around ground dimensions for any ground other than the MCG are setting themselves up for failure in September.


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[Carringbush2010]

Yeah but it's the AFL not a fully professional sporting comp.

You should follow the top league then................. oh wait!

 

[Carringbush2010]

Here's a thought, coz really one can throw all the toys out of the cot as much as they want and still won't get their impractical wish.

Like it or lump it.

End thread/

 

[dangerwood]

Here's a thought, coz really one can throw all the toys out of the cot as much as they want and still won't get their impractical wish.

Like it or lump it.

End thread/

Well then what are we going to argue about? Who has the better mascot?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Here's a thought, coz really one can throw all the toys out of the cot as much as they want and still won't get their impractical wish.

Like it or lump it.

End thread/

They never used to talk like this before the King of Excuses Chris Scott took over

 

[dangerwood]

They never used to talk like this before the King of Excuses Chris Scott took over

I liked his excuse about the 2011 GF

 

[Corn Cobbers]

I liked his excuse about the 2011 GF

That they ran on auto-pilot all year?

That was Bomber's flag

 

[Perth Cat 11]

Wrong.

The Tiggers didnt have 8 games in a row.

By chance where do you expect these games to be played?

Melb v Rich
Coll v Rich
Rich v Carl
Haw v Rich

Do you think Rich have any advantage in them?

How am I wrong? I said the games were at the MCG.

 

[dangerwood]

That they ran on auto-pilot all year?

That was Bomber's flag

I'm surprised you think that as a pies supporter. The 2010 prelim would suggest otherwise.

The talent might of been there but it still takes a good coach to turn that result around and get the best out of the players.

 

[PhatBoy]

They never used to talk like this before the King of Excuses Chris Scott took over

That’s interesting.

I’ve never heard him make an excuse. I’ve heard him once say that we had a handful of Ill players before last year’s preliminary final and follow it by saying ‘it made no difference to the result.’

Can you find me links to other excuses he’s made please

 

[PhatBoy]

That they ran on auto-pilot all year?

That was Bomber's flag

So when Steve Johnson said, and I quote ‘there is no way we win that flag without Chris Scott’ he was lying.

That’s nice to know.