Mega Thread General MFC Discussion Part III

[00Stinger]

McDonald is way faster than Gus

Yeah what Bluelegs said, he's faster than Gus anyway which is the side I think he will rotate through. When I say marking options I mean on a quick turnover he can use his tank to get forward and help with a mismatch and he can also drift back and make it hard for the opposition.

Can you imagine the poor Oppo wingers having to chase Mcdonald and Langdon up and back. They'll be f’ed.

Wouldn't have thought he was faster than Brayshaw but I guess it wouldn't surprise me

Brayshaw played more off half back on Sunday, I reckon he will spend most of his time down there

I get your idea of him creating mismatches but that is effectively the role Gawn is playing at the moment

Like I said I am happy for him to be tried on a wing, I just dont know if it will be a long term option. happy to be wrong

 

[Topkent]

Wouldn't have thought he was faster than Brayshaw but I guess it wouldn't surprise me

Brayshaw played more off half back on Sunday, I reckon he will spend most of his time down there

I get your idea of him creating mismatches but that is effectively the role Gawn is playing at the moment

Like I said I am happy for him to be tried on a wing, I just dont know if it will be a long term option. happy to be wrong

Yeah I'm more so musing about how it would look, not sure if it's a good idea or not. I know that we don't have anyone screaming to be on a wing unless Bowie or Laurie step up but I don't expect them to really do much till next year.

 

[Meds]

Yeah what Bluelegs said, he's faster than Gus anyway which is the side I think he will rotate through. When I say marking options I mean on a quick turnover he can use his tank to get forward and help with a mismatch and he can also drift back and make it hard for the opposition.

Can you imagine the poor Oppo wingers having to chase Mcdonald and Langdon up and back. They'll be f’ed.

This is my best guess.

It'll be someone like a Jimmy Jordon that makes way. We start with BBB forward, TMac wing and Gus in the midfield rotation (might be in the square or off the bench). Gives us some flexibility within the game to swing TMac fwd and Gus to the wing, or Gus to half-forward if we want a different look with Koz/Trac/ANB through the middle on occasion

 

[Bluelegs]

Wouldn't have thought he was faster than Brayshaw but I guess it wouldn't surprise me

Brayshaw played more off half back on Sunday, I reckon he will spend most of his time down there

I get your idea of him creating mismatches but that is effectively the role Gawn is playing at the moment

Like I said I am happy for him to be tried on a wing, I just dont know if it will be a long term option. happy to be wrong

After Gus went back Jones took the wing so no speed lost there either.

 

[Headless]

That does seem strange, gotta be something we don't know about. Like maybe Pickett's GPS showed him doing a truckload of defensive work, Tmac a bit harder to fathom, maybe Scott thought Tomlinson was Tmac as well aye Gysberts2Bate

I was going to give Pickett votes again, and probably should have. At the ground, it felt to me like almost a majority of Geelong turnovers were directly attributable to Pickett pressure.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Now I'm slightly worried that Brown and Weid throw off our forward pressure. Unless we boot Brayshaw to the back flank and Tmac to the wing and then Brown for Tmac and Weid for Melk

Goody should keep Brown in the magoo's for the lols or throw him to full back while May is out.

 

[LeverPuller]

Yeah what Bluelegs said, he's faster than Gus anyway which is the side I think he will rotate through. When I say marking options I mean on a quick turnover he can use his tank to get forward and help with a mismatch and he can also drift back and make it hard for the opposition.

Can you imagine the poor Oppo wingers having to chase Mcdonald and Langdon up and back. They'll be f’ed.

Also ties into the flexibility of Jackson/Gawn. That mismatch is already causing issues.

 

[Dancing Potato]

I think Melk will be the one in trouble as Brown and Weid look to return. He's got another week or two to show something before he gets shown the door. Has zero presence once the ball hits the deck.

TMac rotating through the wing is a possibility. I'm open to seeing how it goes.

 

[Grimesy87]

Am I alone in thinking TMac is having squib efforts painted over by us winning? I really am not liking him in f50 at all. On the wing does a few good things, but I just don't think he hits the pack hard enough to get the ball to ground. Got pushed off the line by his man way too often

I thought tmac bounced back bloody well Sunday, and presented all over the ground.

The whole notion of "crash packs" is nearly outdated.

More and more, the smalls are asked to play big, and the bigs asked to play small. Tmac was rarely outmarked against Geelong, but took 9 of his own (to go with 23 disposals) in the wet and windy conditions.

He was horrific the week prior with certain efforts, but I think it's pretty questionable to knock anything he did on Sunday.

 

[Dory_77]

I was surprised by TMcs numbers but he did seem to be making it to plenty of contests and not getting outmarked. Took a couple of strong grabs in the 2nd half. Would be good if he could hit the scoreboard more often

 

[Russian Demon]

I thought tmac bounced back bloody well Sunday, and presented all over the ground.

The whole notion of "crash packs" is nearly outdated.

More and more, the smalls are asked to play big, and the bigs asked to play small. Tmac was rarely outmarked against Geelong, but took 9 of his own (to go with 23 disposals) in the wet and windy conditions.

He was horrific the week prior with certain efforts, but I think it's pretty questionable to knock anything he did on Sunday.

We have Kozzie and Spargo in that forward line, if the talls aren't crashing a pack to ensure the ball comes to ground (while also leaving their talls off balance) then we're toast.

McDonald's work on the wing was good, his work rate was excellent. But he was poor inside forward 50.I watched him get held out of those marking contests, watched him run to areas that blocked other forwards. All i'm saying is that Brown and Weidd probably a better job as forwards.

 

[ImissFrosty]

I can't wait to see Tmac on a wing, if he's got his fitness back to his best he should theoretically dominate, roaming up and down by himself, taking a bunch of intercept marks and providing a kick down the line so that Brown can sit up forward and lead into an open 50.

 

[Crusty Demon]

I can't wait to see Tmac on a wing, if he's got his fitness back to his best he should theoretically dominate, roaming up and down by himself, taking a bunch of intercept marks and providing a kick down the line so that Brown can sit up forward and lead into an open 50.

TMac is perfect for the wing tbh. Great endurance. Can take a decent mark. What he provides is a decent marking option down the line. It's something that is underrated about Langdon as well. He's a pretty damn good mark for his size. Courageous as well. I'd be more than happy to have TMac continue in the side. He bounced back well against the Cats. His game was very underrated (by me also until I watched the replay).

 

[Theseventhhamster]

Now I'm slightly worried that Brown and Weid throw off our forward pressure. Unless we boot Brayshaw to the back flank and Tmac to the wing and then Brown for Tmac and Weid for Melk

Kinda looked like he's already taken the spot as the marking other wing that was meant to Tomlinson's gig.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Here comes Clarry!

 

[Bluelegs]

Good news but Clarry really needs to work on his 90m torps.

 

[MartinPrince]

Channel 7 will be doing a double header on Sunday with VFL round 1 Box Hill vs Casey at midday.

 

[CTHORANGE]

TMac is perfect for the wing tbh. Great endurance. Can take a decent mark. What he provides is a decent marking option down the line. It's something that is underrated about Langdon as well. He's a pretty damn good mark for his size. Courageous as well. I'd be more than happy to have TMac continue in the side. He bounced back well against the Cats. His game was very underrated (by me also until I watched the replay).

No doubt Tmac has the endurance and marking ability to play on the wing, but his field kicking can be hit and miss, though his set shots are fantastic. Brayshaw a far better field kick than Tmac in my opinion.

I've always been a Tmac fan, but I wouldn't want to push Brayshaw off the wing now that he is finally finding his feet. It's up to Tom to keep Weid out I think.

 

[Simon_Says]

Since were winning games right now (just quietly our Defence is either conceding the least or second least amounts of points, not saying were the best team in the comp right now. Thats easily Footscray. They are winning games by a lot more than we are thus thier percentage
Our Defensive 6 are just doing the best to mitigate the damage.)
But wouldnt we have the best Midfield the comp right now since Collingwood are not playing as well or winning as much?

Grundy and Gawn 100% the top rucks in the AFL, but surely if were winning because of Gawn, Oliver and Co's dominance around the middle that should make Melbourne's mid depth the best right now in the comp.

 

[ImissFrosty]

B

Since were winning games right now (just quietly our Defence is either conceding the least or second least amounts of points, not saying were the best team in the comp right now. Thats easily Footscray. They are winning games by a lot more than we are thus thier percentage
Our Defensive 6 are just doing the best to mitigate the damage.)
But wouldnt we have the best Midfield the comp right now since Collingwood are not playing as well or winning as much?

Grundy and Gawn 100% the top rucks in the AFL, but surely if were winning because of Gawn, Oliver and Co's dominance around the middle that should make Melbourne's mid depth the best right now in the comp.

Bulldogs have the best midfield by far, then it might be us.
Martin English Bont Macrae Treloar Dunkley Liberatore Smith Hunter is way deeper than
Gawn Petracca Oliver Viney Brayshaw Jordon Sparrow Langdon Jones

 

[Optimistic Dog]

B

Bulldogs have the best midfield by far, then it might be us.
Martin English Bont Macrae Treloar Dunkley Liberatore Smith Hunter is way deeper than
Gawn Petracca Oliver Viney Brayshaw Jordon Sparrow Langdon Jones

Looks like a bulldogs V Dees Grand Final this has not happened for 67 years.

 

[00Stinger]

B

Bulldogs have the best midfield by far, then it might be us.
Martin English Bont Macrae Treloar Dunkley Liberatore Smith Hunter is way deeper than
Gawn Petracca Oliver Viney Brayshaw Jordon Sparrow Langdon Jones

The Bulldogs midfield would be ahead of ours, the forward lines similar but we have a much better backline

 

[Topkent]

No doubt Tmac has the endurance and marking ability to play on the wing, but his field kicking can be hit and miss, though his set shots are fantastic. Brayshaw a far better field kick than Tmac in my opinion.

I've always been a Tmac fan, but I wouldn't want to push Brayshaw off the wing now that he is finally finding his feet. It's up to Tom to keep Weid out I think.

Lol Brayshaw doesn't play 100% of game time. They can rotate.

 

[CTHORANGE]

Lol Brayshaw doesn't play 100% of game time. They can rotate.

With Brown but no Weid, then yeh there could be a rotation that involves Tmac going forward when Jackson rucking, and Tmac going to the wing when Jackson forward, but with Weid, I'm not sure that works as we need that high forward pressure game, wouldn't want too many talls there at once. Or was there somewhere else you'd consider rotating Tmac to?

 

[Topkent]

With Brown but no Weid, then yeh there could be a rotation that involves Tmac going forward when Jackson rucking, and Tmac going to the wing when Jackson forward, but with Weid, I'm not sure that works as we need that high forward pressure game, wouldn't want too many talls there at once. Or was there somewhere else you'd consider rotating Tmac to?

It's a bit more complicated than that, teams don't really play with 6-6-6 anymore. I probably don't even know the names of the roles but Tmac can do a bulk of work up and down the ground.