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Rumour GFC 2020 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt2

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Two Planks said:
PSD no chance

Trade up in the National Draft for instance picks 11 and 13 to Hawthorn for pick 4. Adelaide and North Melbourne are rebuilding and will not use a top 2 pick to select a 28 year old that doesn't want to be there. That leaves Sydney at pick 3, will they pick him, maybe, probably. So then its up to GWS, do they let him go to their cross town rivals or take pick 9 as compensation. Then we use pick 4 on Bruhn or Phillips and happy days. We are going to have to give up 11 and 13 to get him anyway, so hopefully this way we can get the young player we want and Cameron for free and still have pick 18 and our future 1st in hand as well as not losing young players we want to keep.
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Hawthorn will never trade pick 4 to us, not in a million years.
 
Mad_Hatter said:
DoEs GeElOnG eVeN hAvE a SaLaRy CaP

Nekminit pay average players 800k per year.
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Dunkley doesn’t deserve 800k yet but he will, he is an absolute jet, wins his own ball, can rack it up, elite over head for a mid & can go forward & impact as well, he’s what you’d want Constable to be in the future.

I’d happily give up our 2 higher first round picks & Esava for him, not that that is remotely on the cards.
 

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Leeds17 said:
Dunkley doesn’t deserve 800k yet but he will, he is an absolute jet, wins his own ball, can rack it up, elite over head for a mid & can go forward & impact as well, he’s what you’d want Constable to be in the future.
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Which is exactly my point.... Teams over-paying on "potential" and promise are the same ones who cry how easily we bring in other players.
We don't over-pay period, but we certainly don't over-pay on potential.
 
Worst part of this is that it’s coming from Jay Clark

We can’t afford to lose a ruck or a Clark

CAMERON DEAL

This one appears the hardest nut to crack of the three, and people close to the deal are still uncertain which way it goes.

Trenches are being dug, as we speak.

In a nutshell, the Giants are slated to receive pick No. 10 as free agency compensation.

It is a selection the Cats strongly believe the Giants should accept for a man who will be 28 early next season.

But GWS want more, and will bank on the Cats pulling off a similar deal to the Dangerfield transaction with Adelaide in 2015.

In that deal, the Cats gave up No. 9, No. 28 and Dean Gore, who never played, for Brownlow Medal winner Patrick Dangerfield.

To solve the impasse, the Giants could accept pick No. 10 from the AFL as free agency compensation and then the Cats could help look after the Giants in another way, if they can.


Had GWS not already committed to Braydon Preuss, perhaps ruckman Rhys Stanley could have been the man to help solve the Giants’ ruck issues in a win-win trade.

It is why Esava Ratugolea, 22, and 202cm Cat Sam De Koning, 19, loom large for the Giants, even though the Cats have no plans at this stage to release them.

But there could be another three-club solution involving Fremantle’s Jesse Hogan.

The Cats could send gun young defender Jordan Clark to the Dockers in exchange for a high-end pick swap.

In turn, the Dockers give Hogan to GWS on the cheap. It means the Giants essentially receive pick No. 10 as free agency compensation and key forward Hogan for Cameron.

While a lot of due diligence must be done to see if Hogan can fit in at GWS, and he may not, it is the kind of solution that might be required to suit both parties.

Out-of-favour Melbourne big man Tom McDonald is another option.

The Cats won’t want Cameron falling into the pre-season draft as Essendon and Sydney Swans, in theory, could both entertain taking him for nothing.

Geelong is adamant it won’t give up multiple first-round picks for Cameron, but the Cats will be pushed to satisfy the Giants in another way.

GWS wants to make a stand after another wave of player departures as it attempts to secure more money in its salary cap to make up for higher house prices in Sydney.

Seventy per cent of the Giants list hails from interstate.
 
Kyuss said:
Yep. IF Cockatoo goes to Brisbane and plays most games it's because we did the rehab and got him right. Not them.
But everyone will say it's Brisbane that can manage their injuries better. We will get no reward out of this unfortunately.
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Same with Vardy & McCarthy

Both were injury free prior to leaving Geelong for new homes - it wasn't like they spent their last 12 months with the club doctors & no one else

Look, I don't blame those who have had a shit run with things such as injuries to want a fresh start & especially once they get their body right. Just wish people would stop with the narrative that they left us broken & it's the new club that fixed them

Look at someone like Fogarty - played a good number of games in his first year before being injured and having injuries impact his next couple of years; squeezed in the is odd game but no continuity. This year we saw him get over the injuries & actually string together games, so clearly our medical staff can do something right
 
UnitedWarrior93 said:
Pretty poor seeing Narkle partying and dancing with Richmond players, especially after we lost the GF to them. I know he is good mates with Bolton, but nota good look and tbh I’m expecting him to actually request a trade to the tigers.
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Where did you see that? If thats true then the club should sanction him, definitely a good way to lose friends at the club.
 
Give him Narkle a break. He does so much at the club and our players love him. Even gave Ablett a special retirement gift. In a weird year staying at the same hotel of all years if you can’t have a beer with the other team after all that’s happened. I’m not sure how that spells he’s not committed.
 
BigCat1 said:
Give him Narkle a break. He does so much at the club and our players love him. Even gave Ablett a special retirement gift. In a weird year staying at the same hotel of all years if you can’t have a beer with the other team after all that’s happened. I’m not sure how that spells he’s not committed.
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When you play for the losing club its a big deal, if we weren't involved then yeah go nuts.
 
BigCat1 said:
Give him Narkle a break. He does so much at the club and our players love him. Even gave Ablett a special retirement gift. In a weird year staying at the same hotel of all years if you can’t have a beer with the other team after all that’s happened. I’m not sure how that spells he’s not committed.
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fair call
 
BigCat1 said:
GWS wants to make a stand after another wave of player departures as it attempts to secure more money in its salary cap to make up for higher house prices in Sydney.

Seventy per cent of the Giants list hails from interstate.
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If they want talk retention then we can discuss that...but house prices in Sydney being an excuse is fallacy to me ...

Try finding a reasonable house under 1M in Newtown Geelong. .. they should not get extra money to live on the harbour or the beach..

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BigCat1 said:
Worst part of this is that it’s coming from Jay Clark

We can’t afford to lose a ruck or a Clark

CAMERON DEAL

This one appears the hardest nut to crack of the three, and people close to the deal are still uncertain which way it goes.

Trenches are being dug, as we speak.

In a nutshell, the Giants are slated to receive pick No. 10 as free agency compensation.

It is a selection the Cats strongly believe the Giants should accept for a man who will be 28 early next season.

But GWS want more, and will bank on the Cats pulling off a similar deal to the Dangerfield transaction with Adelaide in 2015.

In that deal, the Cats gave up No. 9, No. 28 and Dean Gore, who never played, for Brownlow Medal winner Patrick Dangerfield.

To solve the impasse, the Giants could accept pick No. 10 from the AFL as free agency compensation and then the Cats could help look after the Giants in another way, if they can.


Had GWS not already committed to Braydon Preuss, perhaps ruckman Rhys Stanley could have been the man to help solve the Giants’ ruck issues in a win-win trade.

It is why Esava Ratugolea, 22, and 202cm Cat Sam De Koning, 19, loom large for the Giants, even though the Cats have no plans at this stage to release them.

But there could be another three-club solution involving Fremantle’s Jesse Hogan.

The Cats could send gun young defender Jordan Clark to the Dockers in exchange for a high-end pick swap.

In turn, the Dockers give Hogan to GWS on the cheap. It means the Giants essentially receive pick No. 10 as free agency compensation and key forward Hogan for Cameron.

While a lot of due diligence must be done to see if Hogan can fit in at GWS, and he may not, it is the kind of solution that might be required to suit both parties.

Out-of-favour Melbourne big man Tom McDonald is another option.

The Cats won’t want Cameron falling into the pre-season draft as Essendon and Sydney Swans, in theory, could both entertain taking him for nothing.

Geelong is adamant it won’t give up multiple first-round picks for Cameron, but the Cats will be pushed to satisfy the Giants in another way.

GWS wants to make a stand after another wave of player departures as it attempts to secure more money in its salary cap to make up for higher house prices in Sydney.

Seventy per cent of the Giants list hails from interstate.
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So despite the jarring it might cause to some. , Clarke's name raised again. Winning the GF sprint did not hurt his value.

so the deal as above is

Geelong/ Cameron & p10
GWS/ comp pick & Hogan
Freo / P18 & a late pick & Jordan Clark

It would leave geelong with P10, P11, P13 ... in a position to trade up into a higher pick... if its true that Haw, GWS etc have asked about a deal
 
Two Planks said:
They approached us to discuss it, so did Gold Coast for pick 5 and Carlton for pick 7.
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Be interesting to see what GCS & Hawthorn would do with those picks. No doubt they'd go after ready made players.
As long as we're left with Cameron and 11 and we ship off 13 and 17 leaving us with 4 or 5 11 Cameron.
 
Drunkcat said:
Now we are interested in Jasper Pittard lol
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Witherden or Pittard? 🤔 No brainer really
 
BigCat1 said:
Give him Narkle a break. He does so much at the club and our players love him. Even gave Ablett a special retirement gift. In a weird year staying at the same hotel of all years if you can’t have a beer with the other team after all that’s happened. I’m not sure how that spells he’s not committed.
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Diffierent cultures... in cricket they used to all have beers in the room after play didn't they?

If all of the geelong players had landed in the rich rooms ..it might be understandable..but I wonder what would be said of Dangerfield in that situation.

I think the players seperate actual playing the game and living the life now more than ever ..there seems a camaraderie amongst afl players being a part of the system .... I cant imagine too may Geelong supporters happy to be in and around richmond parties. Just another example of how players and suppoirters see it differently. To be out of contract probably just accentuates the situation.
 

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No chance we’ll trade Clark.

When he’s mentioned in the media it’s the definition of lazy journalism.

I suspect we hold gws hand in another way that gets them a player they want (McDonald from Melbourne).

Eg Constable to gws, pick 33 to Melbourne, McDonald to melb and a future Third from gws to us
 
strauchnyy said:
No chance we’ll trade Clark.

When he’s mentioned in the media it’s the definition of lazy journalism.

I suspect we hold gws hand in another way that gets them a player they want (McDonald from Melbourne).
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This is the problem once we go down the path we have. If Clarks name keeps coming up ... then there is a chance he gets traded.

MY preference would be to get Cameron for almost zip ..or not at all , we keep Clark etc... but I fear that he will continue to get mentioned becuase he is a chance to be used in a side deal.

What sort of deal do you see McDonald involved in?
 
strauchnyy said:
No chance we’ll trade Clark.

When he’s mentioned in the media it’s the definition of lazy journalism.

I suspect we hold gws hand in another way that gets them a player they want (McDonald from Melbourne).

Eg Constable to gws, pick 33 to Melbourne, McDonald to melb and a future Third from gws to us
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Melbourne wont let McDonald go for pick 33, they will want more.
 
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