Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists... Part II

[And_ROOS]

It's a big question because he looked strong, composed and classy at VFL level. There didn't look any reason why he couldn't play a Tuohy type role. But his biggest strength would be his disposal off both feet. If he's not hampered long term I'd be picking him up as a rookie.

Could he play the Caleb Daniels role? If he can kick both sides of the body thats a massive skill to have.

 

[Leeds17]

Is there any chance that with a 4 year deal on the table from Freo thar Clark & management are waiting on / negotiating an extension here?

 

[Wellsy35]

Menegola out, as well as gifting you a half decent pick, allows you to introduce Nick Stevens to play on a wing. Holmes and Smith other options.

Clark I think, in the unlikely event he stays, just needs continuity and to be settled in one position. He should start the year in the 22 if we are serious about wanting to retain him.

And if at this point we aren't super serious about retaining him, just cut him loose now. Freo clearly want him while he's contracted (which seems to be going over the heads of quite a few on the Freo board), so unless he explodes next year, his highest value is now, and it's honestly cruel to string him along for another year if we aren't serious about playing him.

 

[year of the cat]

And if at this point we aren't super serious about retaining him, just cut him loose now. Freo clearly want him while he's contracted (which seems to be going over the heads of quite a few on the Freo board), so unless he explodes next year, his highest value is now, and it's honestly cruel to string him along for another year if we aren't serious about playing him.

Completely agree. But get maximum value on the way out.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It will be interesting to see/know if we get asked about any of our players this trade period. I do think the emphasis on our list management now squarely needs to be geared towards looking towards the future more than it has been the past 10 years.

If you could trade out Menegola to GC for pick 19 (or even 22) allowing you to get hold of Chesser or Taylor or Knevitt - which that pick almost certainly would - I’d do it in a heartbeat. I rate Menegola reasonably highly but he’s expendable.

No way. Reputation means a lot.

We are a destination for FA's because we treat players right. Start turfing best 22 players as soon as they become 'expendable' just to grab a pick for a draftee that could be a bust and that goes out the window.

 

[catstorm]

A pointless whinge - that table highlights how weak our ND stocks are by comparison to just about every other team, perhaps with the exceptions of Magpies (but who have Daicos F/S) and Demons (who have good depth- and a flag!). Very ‘sobering’.

We probably expected both the Essendon and GWS 2nd rounders to be mid to high 20s, Those two over-preforming has definitely hurt our draft hand.

such is the case with speculative future picks unfortunately.

 

[sherrif]

With the possibility of retirements and delistings next year being rather hefty, hanging onto our picks next year makes sense. However if we are looking to get up the pointy end of this year's draft then I think our future first might come into play.

Would Freo consider trading 8 (from Carlton) and a later pick for Clarke and our future first?

Two of our 2nd rounders may be appealing for points for the dogs in exchange for 17.

Either sets us up with a strong draft hand this year or perhaps something that we can chat to the Giants about if they are sold on sliding down the order a bit to grab Mac Andrew without reachingby using number 2.

Alternatively do we ask the Pies what they need in points this year to secure Daicos and see if their future first is available. Remember if they don't get enough points this year, their first pick could drop several spots as they'll be in deficit (eg. Pies finish 10th next year and their pick 8 could slide to pick 22 if the Roos bid on Daicos using pick 1 as the points stand atm)

Hopefully Krueger can be swapped for either Lynch or a future pick as the Pies won't shuffle out picks in this year's draft.

If Fort leaves (on the cards), then look for a future pick. If we don't secure Lynch then we need another ruckman on the list. I'd prefer someone that will be fighting Stanley for the number 1 role (Sweet, Ladhams, Lynch, Briggs all in the right age bracket) and we've seen average rucks become regular AFL rucks when given the opportunity.

I'm a Fremantle fan here. You are rumoured to be keen on Darcy Tucker over here. He'd actually be a good get as he is a very talented player who looked looked being a very good player until he got injured. His best position is onball. I could see a trade of Tucker and our future second. For Clark and your future 3rd or 4th. happening. You could then trade Kreuger to Collingwood for a future second too. Then from there you could trade two future seconds to Gold Coast for pick 19 if you wanted as that would help them sort out their list issues this year with too many players contracted.

 

[CatRiot]

Tucker has some good attributes but I wouldn’t want to trade for him. Happy to take him as a delisted FA. I’d have him in front of a number on our list. He’s got good speed and is a nice, long left foot kick. Wouldn’t be the worst pick up.

I'm a Fremantle fan here. You are rumoured to be keen on Darcy Tucker over here. He'd actually be a good get as he is a very talented player who looked looked being a very good player until he got injured. His best position is onball. I could see a trade of Tucker and our future second. For Clark and your future 3rd or 4th. happening. You could then trade Kreuger to Collingwood for a future second too. Then from there you could trade two future seconds to Gold Coast for pick 19 if you wanted as that would help them sort out their list issues this year with too many players contracted.

I think we would want to get Tucker as DFA, and not dilute the Clark trade. We have mixed responses on here about Tucker. I do not oppose if its a bargain bin trade, or DFA. I think Tucker could work in our team, but he would be fringe best 22.

 

[sherrif]

I think we would want to get Tucker as DFA, and not dilute the Clark trade. We have mixed responses on here about Tucker. I do not oppose if its a bargain bin trade, or DFA. I think Tucker could work in our team, but he would be fringe best 22.

You won't get Tucker as a delisted free agent. He is already being talked about as part of the Clark trade. Tucker is a very good player when he's had a decent run with injury.

 

[Ceekers]

You won't get Tucker as a delisted free agent. He is already being talked about as part of the Clark trade. Tucker is a very good player when he's had a decent run with injury.

Are Fremantle re-signing him (re Tucker not being available as a DFA)?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

You won't get Tucker as a delisted free agent. He is already being talked about as part of the Clark trade. Tucker is a very good player when he's had a decent run with injury.

Lots of random stuff gets talked sit down part of trades. Cooney put up a Clark trade involving 4 teams. Most of the things take about never happen and the only talk about ticket is Sumich, was West article scratching for word count, and your board

 

[catempire]

I guess we are going to hear about Menegola trade speculation until he hangs up the boots. Just a player plenty of people don’t like.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

I'm a Fremantle fan here. You are rumoured to be keen on Darcy Tucker over here. He'd actually be a good get as he is a very talented player who looked looked being a very good player until he got injured. His best position is onball. I could see a trade of Tucker and our future second. For Clark and your future 3rd or 4th. happening. You could then trade Kreuger to Collingwood for a future second too. Then from there you could trade two future seconds to Gold Coast for pick 19 if you wanted as that would help them sort out their list issues this year with too many players contracted.

There won’t be any geelong fans who would want to do that trade. Tucker has shown he can be a solid midfielder but doesn’t have a high ceiling that we’ve seen. What would you say are his standout attributes?
Clark is contracted and a wanted player by the club Freo is going to have to give up more than that to get him. A future pick upgrade is insulting.

 

[sherrif]

There won’t be any geelong fans who would want to do that trade. Tucker has shown he can be a solid midfielder but doesn’t have a high ceiling that we’ve seen. What would you say are his standout attributes?
Clark is contracted and a wanted player by the club Freo is going to have to give up more than that to get him. A future pick upgrade is insulting.

Then no trade happens if Geelong want way more.. Highly likely that will be the case. Tucker's way better than you give him credit for and Geelong has already shown interest in trading for him. Bookmark it. Pick 25 ish will be the best case scenario for Geelong in this trade. Fremantle might end up with Carlton's second rounder that would be pick 25 if Tucker's involved then even less than that. Pick 27 and Tucker with a future pick swap in our favour will also get the deal done in my opinion. So no hard feelings bookmark my post and we'll see who ends up correct during trade week.

 

[sherrif]

There won’t be any geelong fans who would want to do that trade. Tucker has shown he can be a solid midfielder but doesn’t have a high ceiling that we’ve seen. What would you say are his standout attributes?
Clark is contracted and a wanted player by the club Freo is going to have to give up more than that to get him. A future pick upgrade is insulting.

When he played onball in 2020 Tucker was second in our team for clearance until getting injured. He's also played as a defensive wingman. Last year he was injured the entire preseason and the early rounds. He is way better than what he showed in 2021.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

Then no trade happens if Geelong want way more.. Highly likely that will be the case. Tucker's way better than you give him credit for and Geelong has already shown interest in trading for him. Bookmark it. Pick 25 ish will be the best case scenario for Geelong in this trade. Fremantle might end up with Carlton's second rounder that would be pick 25 if Tucker's involved then even less than that. Pick 27 and Tucker with a future pick swap in our favour will also get the deal done in my opinion. So no hard feelings bookmark my post and we'll see who ends up correct during trade week.

You could be right that no trade happens because to get a player out who a club wants to keep you need to give more. And if Freo won’t give more then they won’t get the player.
Tucker isn’t a bad player and you point to form from a couple of seasons ago in which he was developing well. He is one of the last players for your club to sign, that’s usually a great indicator of how a club rates a player.
Whats been reported is geelong want more than pick 27 which will end up close to 30. What you have proposed doesn’t equate to enough of an upgrade on that.
We’ll see soon how it plays out, you can see the gap in how many Freo fans want Clark and that they are happy to see Tucker go.

 

[BORIS332]

Can we somehow get Jeremy Sharp from Suns. He looks quality. Spewing we didn't get him.

He is contracted to 2023... doubt it

Gold Coast actually selected him with our pick. We did a live trade on the night for their future first and they took Sharp.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Gold Coast actually selected him with our pick. We did a live trade on the night for their future first and they took Sharp.

Which helped us get cameron

 

[foodles05]

When he played onball in 2020 Tucker was second in our team for clearance until getting injured. He's also played as a defensive wingman. Last year he was injured the entire preseason and the early rounds. He is way better than what he showed in 2021.

This is a bit silly. If that's the case we will value Clark not on this year but on being taken pick 15 in the super draft and then being one of the top 5 or 6 best performed kids from that draft in their first year. Looked like had the potential to be a star. So like you we will cherry pick what we want to look at and demand your first round selection for our second and clark. So like 6 and clark for 30

 

[BORIS332]

I'm a Fremantle fan here. You are rumoured to be keen on Darcy Tucker over here. He'd actually be a good get as he is a very talented player who looked looked being a very good player until he got injured. His best position is onball. I could see a trade of Tucker and our future second. For Clark and your future 3rd or 4th. happening. You could then trade Kreuger to Collingwood for a future second too. Then from there you could trade two future seconds to Gold Coast for pick 19 if you wanted as that would help them sort out their list issues this year with too many players contracted.

Gold Coast are only taking three picks to the draft. They won’t trade out their early picks.

Can’t see us wanting Tucker, he wouldn’t be in our best 22.

 

[Drunkcat]

Then no trade happens if Geelong want way more.. Highly likely that will be the case. Tucker's way better than you give him credit for and Geelong has already shown interest in trading for him. Bookmark it. Pick 25 ish will be the best case scenario for Geelong in this trade. Fremantle might end up with Carlton's second rounder that would be pick 25 if Tucker's involved then even less than that. Pick 27 and Tucker with a future pick swap in our favour will also get the deal done in my opinion. So no hard feelings bookmark my post and we'll see who ends up correct during trade week.

I love silly season like fans from both sides, think they have a say what will happens loving reading this stuff lol

 

[Footy Smarts]

I guess we are going to hear about Menegola trade speculation until he hangs up the boots. Just a player plenty of people don’t like.

He frustrated me early but I admire him now. He's learnt to work his ass off defensively on a wing. It's more that his strengths and weaknesses mirrora lot of others in that he's got a great tank but is slow off the mark and around the contest he gets lost defensively because he's very much a see ball get ball player.

I'm not really advocating trading him just that he's about the only person of value who has some value and might be replaceable mainly because his best role (wing) is where we have good depth. I wouldn't trade him for pick 20ish alone. But if we really rate Clark and trading Menegola gives Clark the sign that he's going to get opportunity then I'd probably do it. There's a lot of ifs there though.

 

[Tackle_happy]

I guess we are going to hear about Menegola trade speculation until he hangs up the boots. Just a player plenty of people don’t like.

He is a good player ... but when he is off (mostly in big games) then he is a liability. He is not the only one though ... but we do need to not carry so many of them.

 

[Danger handballs we win]

What are people thoughts on Krueger and being walked to the preseason draft given Collingwood need points for Daicos…

Do you think Krueger believes Geelong have supported him and would want us to get compensated or at this stage would do anything to further his career and land at Collingwood.

I would u understand the above but Geelong took him from nowhere and he was injured all of this year and then played - his GWS game wasn’t getting many blokes a finals gig…





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[Grimoz]

Ceglar has been told to explore his options by the Hawks, you just know we will come up in conversation, id pass, he is 30, contracted and we need a young ruck.