Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists... Part II
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Hey, mine wasn't disrespectful
Fair enough, stats look much better.
But I’d love to see some vision of knevitt. It’s how they use the footy and athletic traits on field. Not disagreeing with you, he might be completely different to Constable.. but until I see his style I don’t know for sure. Maybe after Jansen, Constable I’m unfair on this kid.
To me, Impact per possession is the most important thing to look for when assessing draft prospects. Class, a spark. Fitness can be trained, class can’t.
Hopefully the afl website releases more vision
Considering my original post was about the comparison in Footy Smarts
between the Triple Premiership Squad and the current crop of players
where I noted Holmes among large group with low Footy Smarts/poor decision makers.
Being the reason for our recent poor final performance.
I recommended that when selecting late draft picks, where skills and physical attributes levelled out
Then Footy Smarts should be considered to determine the better choice.
Someone said Holmes will be a star.
I said I will reserve judgement until he improves his Footy Smarts
This triggered the pro Holmes lynch mob
Low Footy Smarts. Low Comprehension Smarts... and a Smart Ass.
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I reckon Blicavs on the wing makes more sense - he can still get back and help out ... but he will not be ask exposed with his very poor ability to handle pressure. This allows SDK to evolve (with help from the 3 mentioned above) and take on the
What constitutes footy smarts in your opinion?
Also, does anyone have any knowledge of who we might be targeting for the open CAT B spot?
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I read on the bulldogs board they want to get back into second round to get motlop, I think we can help.
23 for Geelong 2022r2,r3.
After Darcy is bid on,
We send 34 to them for Bulldogs 2022r2.
I realise could be complications around points defecits, we might need swap 34,50 for norths 41,42 and then do 23 for 41, geelong 2022r2
as the first trade.
If my first suggestion holds, we could end up with 22,23,30,32,50.
( and still have a 2022r2).
Mental acuity
Good decision making
Reading the play
Anticipating the kick drop zone
Knowing what to do with the ball before taking possession
Ability to lose a tag in traffic
Ability to find space
Ability to gather possessions
Protecting the marking teammate
Screening, blocking, to free up teammate
Linking up in play
Creating goal assists
Using voice and directing play
Using voice to encourage, focus, and motivate teammates.
Standing up under pressure.
Tap on, Toe poke when no time to take possession
Ability to draw a free kick
Skilled tackling to win free kicks
Not giving away dumb free kicks
Knowing your opponent's strengths and exploiting weakness
Goal awareness without looking
Reading the bounce of the ball
Having a jink, side step, shimmy, baulk and spin moves
Having a good fend off, don't argue
Breaking tackles with a hip twist
Knowing when to tackle and bump
Situational awareness and composure in heavy traffic
Having a reliable goal-kicking routine.
Knowing when to assist a teammate or stay wide
Knowing when and how to corral a bigger opponent
Using a nudge when marking.
Ability to take a high mark
Switching play effectively
Ability to play multiple positions well.
Making teammate lead to your kick
Adapting to the conditions wind and rain
Reading the wind when kicking and marking
Understanding kicking dynamics, foot velocity, point of contact above ground, kick distance
Understanding kicking dynamics, point of contact, curved and flight path and dribble kick.
Understanding physics, balance, centre of gravity, traction, momentum
Spatial awareness, good disposal while being slung or falling
Ability to annoy, distract and suck in opponents.
Ability to schmooze or con an umpire
Situational awareness game tempo and urgency
Ability to inspire teammates
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After bid point allocations, that 50 pick will be around 42ish I think.
Sounds like Knevitt, Brown, Van Rooyen, Z Taylor and Bhazzo will be thereabouts for either first or second selection. Though I just get this feeling, that if our picks in the 30s were in fact just 3-5 picks earlier, we would have an awesome draft hand. I just get this feeling we might be just off the mark with drafting in that range.
Not sure what's the go with Woewodin, he had some good stats at WAFL Colts, and has wheels to burn....
Not sure what's the go with Woewodin, he had some good stats at WAFL Colts, and has wheels to burn....
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He's 2cm off being Blicavs.
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Yeah I’d like to see all those disrespectful posts. All I read were posters disagreeing re the future prospects of Max Holmes. It is a forum after all.
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And we all should know by now that if history repeats Wells isn’t reading out any names mentioned in here.
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Isn’t he going to the draft? If so he doesn’t have a choice.
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Yep... that's exactly what i was thinking.
Wouldn't surprise me if Wells called out...
Cooper Beecken, Kai Lohmann, Bailey Rogers, Cooper Murley and Ronnie Frejo Jnr.
and we'll all sit back and say... Fook!! Didnt see any of that coming... LOL
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Nah he's a DFA. Can sign wherever he likes after Nov 1 i think. Just like Tyson Stengle.
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Moving Blitz out of the backline would make SDK the only KPD on the list currently. I know Henry has improved out of sight and filled the role sometimes last season but he isn't big enough to do it against the actual tall forwards - as the matchup with Max King showed last year.
I have high hopes for SDK like everyone else on the board, but I think we need to temper immediate expectations. He shouldn't be expected to be the number one KPD next year - or even expected to play every game - considering he's played one game as a secondary ruck at AFL level.
What about Nathan Kru... oh, wait.
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The combination of strong overhead and good endurance is pretty classic, as well as the background (Sacred Heart).
So does that mean Esava has played 250 games?
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Definitely a possibility. But also possible that without us taking him Cat B he wouldn't have been on an afl list, and then not had his chance in the wafl. Also, he's from the region, has established relationships with the playing group, and actually might have left on good terms.
We'll see what happens
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What about Nathan Kru... oh, wait.
I'm still really surprised he moved. I guess he really wanted to be a forward (or was worried we'd worried we'd try to recruit Taylor, Harley, and Scarlett as DFAs) because you couldn't be any more guaranteed game time next season than he was with our list profile.
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I don’t understand the Blitz on the wing camp. I admire blitz but not sure he would get a game in many premiership sides as a pure wingman. He was well beaten as fullback in the prelim but the poor bloke hadn’t played much footy there. If we just ******* settle him there he will be fine! Harry T can mentor him - he has everything you need to be a dour reliable fullback- he is a great story but he just isn’t elite enough skill set and footy IQ to play wing- albeit he had a niche third man up in ruck loophole that’s been closed.
I’d love to stop seeing blitz as this creative secret weapon to deploy in big finals and have an edge and just let him play basic committed football that he is capable of.
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He wouldn't play as a pure wingman. He'd share ruck which means you don't need a 3rd giant in the forward line in a side that plays 9 home games at a ground that barely has room for 2
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GEELONG CATS
Draft picks (as of October 21): 22, 30, 32, 34, 50
The list needs they must address: The Cats may have an experienced list, but there’s a few holes to plug. A midfielder that specialises at stoppages for the long term would be handy, considering five of the Cats’ top six clearance winners this year were Patrick Dangerfield (31 years old), Joel Selwood (33), Cam Guthrie (29), Mitch Duncan (30) and Sam Menegola (29). The retirement of Lachie Henderson, departure of Nathan Kreuger to Collingwood and inability to land Daniel Talia has also left the Cats thin in the key defensive stocks, especially after they ranked 16th for intercept marks this year. The Cats could also do with a pressure forward – they ranked 14th in the all-important stat of forward-half intercepts this year – but that doesn’t seem as pressing a need as 2020 draftees Francis Evans and Max Holmes could fill that chasm.
The ideal draft prospects: There’s a slight chance South Adelaide midfielder Matthew Roberts, who played several SANFL league games this year, slips to Geelong’s first selection. But the pick could also line up with where Sam Butler sits on draft boards. A shrewd player with great strength at the contest, Butler — the brother of premiership Tiger and Saints forward Dan Butler — ranked first for contested possessions (9.2), tackles (4.8) and goals (0.8) among mid-forwards in the NAB League. Not only could he address the Cats’ pressure issue, he could also provide some grunt around stoppages. Midfielders that might be available later in the second round include Calder Cannons gun Zac Taylor, East Fremantle ball magnet Josh Browne, who won this year’s Jack Clarke Medal for WAFL colts best and fairest player, and East Fremantle’s Corey Warner. The romantic selection would be Mitch Knevitt, who won the Geelong Falcons’ best and fairest this year after averaging 24.3 touches. As for intercept defenders, Central District mature-age gun Leek Alleer and Swan Districts big man Rhett Bazzo would be around the mark.
GEELONG CATS
Draft picks (as of October 21): 22, 30, 32, 34, 50
The list needs they must address: The Cats may have an experienced list, but there’s a few holes to plug. A midfielder that specialises at stoppages for the long term would be handy, considering five of the Cats’ top six clearance winners this year were Patrick Dangerfield (31 years old), Joel Selwood (33), Cam Guthrie (29), Mitch Duncan (30) and Sam Menegola (29). The retirement of Lachie Henderson, departure of Nathan Kreuger to Collingwood and inability to land Daniel Talia has also left the Cats thin in the key defensive stocks, especially after they ranked 16th for intercept marks this year. The Cats could also do with a pressure forward – they ranked 14th in the all-important stat of forward-half intercepts this year – but that doesn’t seem as pressing a need as 2020 draftees Francis Evans and Max Holmes could fill that chasm.
The ideal draft prospects: There’s a slight chance South Adelaide midfielder Matthew Roberts, who played several SANFL league games this year, slips to Geelong’s first selection. But the pick could also line up with where Sam Butler sits on draft boards. A shrewd player with great strength at the contest, Butler — the brother of premiership Tiger and Saints forward Dan Butler — ranked first for contested possessions (9.2), tackles (4.8) and goals (0.8) among mid-forwards in the NAB League. Not only could he address the Cats’ pressure issue, he could also provide some grunt around stoppages. Midfielders that might be available later in the second round include Calder Cannons gun Zac Taylor, East Fremantle ball magnet Josh Browne, who won this year’s Jack Clarke Medal for WAFL colts best and fairest player, and East Fremantle’s Corey Warner. The romantic selection would be Mitch Knevitt, who won the Geelong Falcons’ best and fairest this year after averaging 24.3 touches. As for intercept defenders, Central District mature-age gun Leek Alleer and Swan Districts big man Rhett Bazzo would be around the mark.
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