Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[Turbocat]

Not really sure to be honest. Haven’t looked into it. Maybe one of the young GWS’s rucks?

Fair enough.Id prefer to go after someone who has at least played AFL, perhaps someone who is a in a line of guys being over looked.

After watching Chol the other night I'd look at him. Very athletic and UFA. All he wants is regular games , probably a god contract and I suspect with games he will continue to get better. His body shap would indicate he may eventually be able to play down back. He could at least cover us while our younger guys develop and being UFA is something one could bank on happening.


I too like the young GWS rucks. Be happy to have a ping at Briggs, as another big body young ruck..who has been around for 4 years and has played at the level. Can the hold them all after adding Pruess?


After that then you are looking at the guys like Sweet at the Dogs. The will be bringing in Darcy. Not sure if he is good enough to be honest. Cameron at the Pies much the same.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

This is where the value of draft picks gets a bit inflated. I’d easily take those two players against the ones that GWS took last year. I’d even take them in front of the Henry boy that the Pies picked up.

Put it this way, when we traded for Ottens he was twice the player that Darcy was. And we only gave up Moloney and a pick in the teens from memory. Either inflation on rucks has gone insane or that scenario you’ve suggested is a little OTT.

Clark plus a future first should be enough. Maybe an exchange of second and a third rounder to their benefit as a sweetener if absolutely needed.

Melb traded 12 for moloney and we flipped 12 and 16 for Ottens which is pick3 on DVI. Funnily enough the darcy scenario i suggested is also pick 3 on DVI and id suggest thats fair given darcy is a similar age to ottens was at the time and is showing better form. Clark and an FR1 isnt equivalent unless you rate Clark at P12 and given he isnt best 22 atm id suggest he doesnt hold that value. Which is why i said youd need clark and a first and narkle or a second to be closer to the mark on a contracted darcy tradevalue.

 

[Turbocat]

Any idea what type of player Mooney's son is?

how old is he?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

how old is he?

15 I think.

 

[Turbocat]

Melb traded 12 for moloney and we flipped 12 and 16 for Ottens which is pick3 on DVI. Funnily enough the darcy scenario i suggested is also pick 3 on DVI and id suggest thats fair given darcy is a similar age to ottens was at the time and is showing better form. Clark and an FR1 isnt equivalent unless you rate Clark at P12 and given he isnt best 22 atm id suggest he doesnt hold that value. Which is why i said youd need clark and a first and narkle or a second to be closer to the mark on a contracted darcy tradevalue.

NO matter what we pay .... (as with Ottens) ... it will be about what he does. He performs like Ottens and gets us into a GF... most will say good deal. Look at the Cameron deal. I still remember waht David King said after the deal was done. We had sold our future..so it better work. Now ..he says it was cheap.

 

[Turbocat]

15 I think.

OK. Not too long to go then. Be good if he is a similar size etc.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

OK. Not too long to go then. Be good if he is a similar size etc.

Did he player junior cricket for Victoria too?

 

[Turbocat]

Did he player junior cricket for Victoria too?

 

[Kaatman]

Yes .My mates boy in same team

 

[Vdubs]

Hi Vdubs. Your right, I didn’t know he was that age.
You would have been over the moon with Geelong on Thursday night surely.

Could not watch it live due to other commitments, but a fantastic result, and the replay convinces me Sav must be persevered with. Gives 100% and can make a difference anywhere on the ground.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Yes .My mates boy in same team

Thought so. It might be interesting with path he chooses because I'm led to believe he's a talented footballer too but no idea as to his specific position.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

I'd say Darcy is a big chance to be at Geelong next year.

Geelong - Darcy
Freo - Narkle, Bolton
Richmond - Geelong F1

No chance Bolton goes to freo surely? Why would anyone want to play for them? Nice lifestyle choice in WA but it’s a poor club that has had no success.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

No chance Bolton goes to freo surely? Why would anyone want to play for them? Nice lifestyle choice in WA but it’s a poor club that has had no success.

2 Premierships already and Freo have the cash Richmond don't.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

NO matter what we pay .... (as with Ottens) ... it will be about what he does. He performs like Ottens and gets us into a GF... most will say good deal. Look at the Cameron deal. I still remember waht David King said after the deal was done. We had sold our future..so it better work. Now ..he says it was cheap.

I mean on current ladder positions it works out to be P9 which like danger is cheap. But i agree with both the cameron trade and darcy if we do it then most people externally will judge its success or failure on whether we win a flag or not.

 

[Turbocat]

2 Premierships already and Freo have the cash Richmond don't.

There has to be 30% WA people who support them. They play at the same ground. Just how much worse could it be I wonder

 

[year of the cat]

Melb traded 12 for moloney and we flipped 12 and 16 for Ottens which is pick3 on DVI. Funnily enough the darcy scenario i suggested is also pick 3 on DVI and id suggest thats fair given darcy is a similar age to ottens was at the time and is showing better form. Clark and an FR1 isnt equivalent unless you rate Clark at P12 and given he isnt best 22 atm id suggest he doesnt hold that value. Which is why i said youd need clark and a first and narkle or a second to be closer to the mark on a contracted darcy tradevalue.

I'm not sure Clark has dropped too much in value and I reckon that Narkle, if this vein of form continues, will be worth far more than pick 40. Anyway, semantics. I, personally, wouldn't be giving up both those players plus a first to get a guy who is admittedly showing a fair bit of promise, but isn't, to my mind anyway, anywhere near elite. Maybe I'll change my mind during the season. Looking forward to seeing Darcy play against us.

 

[CatRiot]

I'd say Darcy is a big chance to be at Geelong next year.

Geelong - Darcy
Freo - Narkle, Bolton
Richmond - Geelong F1

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17 disposals, a goal and 7 clearances. He's basically another midfielder. The next Brad Ottens.

Lot of talk about Sean Darcy on here and for good reason.

Though Fremantle also have Lloyd Meek on their list, and a is similar type of ruckman. Identical height, similar weight, and more that lumbering type of ruck. He is achieving pretty good stats in the WAFL this year, and would cost just about nothing in a trade.

Lloyd Meek | WAFL

www.wafl.com.au

A few people on here liked Meek in the draft year, as good smoky pick.

Having said that, Sean Darcy has better foot skills, and somewhat seems a little more agile, composed, and is just the better player. I'm not saying Meek lacks in those areas, but just saying Darcy ranks slightly better in those areas.

Both rucks are entering their prime years, and both are effectively local boys to the Geelong/Ballarat region. So if we can't get one, we could get the other for very little.

Though with Neale's height and athleticism, he has very high upside if we hold onto him, but we won't see benefits for at least 3 years imho.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Lot of talk about Sean Darcy on here and for good reason.

Though Fremantle also have Lloyd Meek on their list, and a is similar type of ruckman. Identical height, similar weight, and more that lumbering type of ruck. He is achieving pretty good stats in the WAFL this year, and would cost just about nothing in a trade.

Lloyd Meek | WAFL

www.wafl.com.au

A few people on here liked Meek in the draft year, as good smoky pick.

Having said that, Sean Darcy has better foot skills, and somewhat seems a little more agile, composed, and is just the better player. I'm not saying Meek lacks in those areas, but just saying Darcy ranks slightly better in those areas.

Both rucks are entering their prime years, and both are effectively local boys to the Geelong/Ballarat region. So if we can't get one, we could get the other for very little.

Though with Neale's height and athleticism, he has very high upside if we hold onto him, but we won't see benefits for at least 3 years imho.

Not if they keep playing Neale at FB at VFL level.

Bewildering.

 

[Turbocat]

Lot of talk about Sean Darcy on here and for good reason.

Though Fremantle also have Lloyd Meek on their list, and a is similar type of ruckman. Identical height, similar weight, and more that lumbering type of ruck. He is achieving pretty good stats in the WAFL this year, and would cost just about nothing in a trade.

Lloyd Meek | WAFL

www.wafl.com.au

A few people on here liked Meek in the draft year, as good smoky pick.

Having said that, Sean Darcy has better foot skills, and somewhat seems a little more agile, composed, and is just the better player. I'm not saying Meek lacks in those areas, but just saying Darcy ranks slightly better in those areas.

Both rucks are entering their prime years, and both are effectively local boys to the Geelong/Ballarat region. So if we can't get one, we could get the other for very little.

Though with Neale's height and athleticism, he has very high upside if we hold onto him, but we won't see benefits for at least 3 years imho.

He is OOC and would be a lot cheaper thats for sure. Maybe a R2? Maybe a player deal.... but is he ready to be a #1? I have not seen enough him.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Any idea what type of player Mooney's son is?

Knowing our luck recently he's likely a minecraft player

 

[foxdog50]

Lot of talk about Sean Darcy on here and for good reason.

Though Fremantle also have Lloyd Meek on their list, and a is similar type of ruckman. Identical height, similar weight, and more that lumbering type of ruck. He is achieving pretty good stats in the WAFL this year, and would cost just about nothing in a trade.

Lloyd Meek | WAFL

www.wafl.com.au

A few people on here liked Meek in the draft year, as good smoky pick.

Having said that, Sean Darcy has better foot skills, and somewhat seems a little more agile, composed, and is just the better player. I'm not saying Meek lacks in those areas, but just saying Darcy ranks slightly better in those areas.

Both rucks are entering their prime years, and both are effectively local boys to the Geelong/Ballarat region. So if we can't get one, we could get the other for very little.

Though with Neale's height and athleticism, he has very high upside if we hold onto him, but we won't see benefits for at least 3 years imho.

I'm only asking but is Meek just another Fort?
In a way we havnt given much time to see what Fort can do tbh..

 

[CatRiot]

Not if they keep playing Neale at FB at VFL level.

Bewildering.

That is really silly. He needs at least 30%-50% time in the ruck, unless they think putting him in the ruck too soon without the physical development it could be an injury risk. Though I don't know on the latter, just a guess maybe.

He is OOC and would be a lot cheaper thats for sure. Maybe a R2? Maybe a player deal.... but is he ready to be a #1? I have not seen enough him.

I reckon a R3 pick would do it. He was a late draft pick in his year, and well, he hasn't done a lot at AFL level. Though he would be physically ready now. Just a question if he is really good enough at that level of footy.

I'm only asking but is Meek just another Fort?
In a way we havnt given much time to see what Fort can do tbh..

Different style. Fort is leaner, less strength, and more a mobile type. Meek is slower, more of a physical type of ruck. If I could make a player comparison, Sean Darcy has upside to Ottens level, whereas Meek could be a slightly taller version of Mumford. Maybe that's the best upside they have in terms of type.

 

[Vdubs]

I'm only asking but is Meek just another Fort?
In a way we havnt given much time to see what Fort can do tbh..

I love the unintentional reverse pun, although as the Bible tells us, the Meek shall inherit the earth, and meek does not have to mean weak.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

I was surprised to see Chol listed as a free agent. Darcy or a big trade target aside. Chol could be a good target and the type of player and ruck the club would like. Wouldn’t cost much in trade or salary cap. And could make a good duo with Esava rotating ruck and forward.

 

[CharacterFirst]

If we can get over the Bulldogs and Lions next two weeks, we can start managing Selwood through back half of year. Scott and Selwood always talk about doing this at start of year but never do. If we manage a few players, it will give opportunities to Clark and Narkle too.

I wouldn't be working too hard for Narkle - he is gone at the season end I reckon.