Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists PT2

[Cataholic]

Just won a flag, look like nailing the trade period. We should all be cockahoop.
Not trying to get guys banned for soft stuff. Two sent packing for very little imo.

As a group we should harden up a little.
Enjoy the wondrous trade period that is unfolding and not let the little things irritate.

Little things like oppo posters coming here to describe Mackie as a flog, and our club as sh*t ??

Yeah, nah.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Gee this kid reminds me of Danger ...


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I'm really keen on this kid - ditto Mackenzie.

I'd be more than happy with Clark, I'm sure we all would. But if Humprey, Mackenzie and Clark are all available, I'd probably have those three in that order as to who I would select.

The ceiling of Humprey is huge IMO.

An unpopular opinion, but I have those guys ahead of Clark as they have attributes that most young players on our list don't possess. A point of difference you could say..

Clark is clearly the safe option; you probably can't go wrong and he's likely to be a very good player. But I've always been one to take a more risky approach.

Hopefully I won't get banned for this comment as I know how keen most are on Clark and I completely get it

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I think given how valuable and rare ready to go key defenders are at the moment and he is literally our only backup option besides a 18Yo kid we draft as a rookie or late pick, he is surely worth a second round pick to let go. All the factors need to be taken into consideration with his worth under contract.

He might be worth it, but let him go

 

[CHAWKTS]

Bailey Humphrey​

Midfielder/Forward, VIC​

Age: 11/09/04
Weight: 86kg
Height: 184cm
Club: Vic Country/Gippsland Power/ Moe NFC/ Lowanna College

2022 National Champs74 ranking points, 11 disposals, 3 inside-50s, 2 marks, 1 goal, 8 score involvements, 3 tackles (one game)
2022 NAB League132 ranking points, 19.8 disposals, 4.5 inside-50s, 5.7 marks, 4.2 clearances, 1.9 goals, 7.3 score involvements, 4.6 tackles (11 games)

A powerful midfielder-forward, Humphrey has excited recruiters despite missing a significant chunk of football this year. He is a real competitor who attacks the ball ferociously, has seriously quick breakaway speed from stoppages and is a neat kick on both feet. When playing forward, he is a strong mark in the contest and is dangerous around goals. Humphrey suffered a meniscus tear in his knee in May, which meant he missed Vic Country’s first three games of the under-18 national championships. However, he made a stunning return to the field for Gippsland Power in the NAB League in Round 14, logging 31 disposals (14 contested), 12 marks, 14 score involvements and four goals. He went on to boot another four goals in the final home-and-away round, before playing in Vic Country's last match of the national championships against Vic Metro and catching the eye with some moments of brilliance. Humphrey finished third in the NAB League's Morrish Medal count and was named in a forward pocket in the NAB League Boys Team of the Year.

Think this kid has huge damaging upside.

86kg at that height for an 18 year old means he is pretty fully developed?

 

[geelong_crazy26]

question for those draft fanatics: do elite AFL wingers generally play as wingers in underage comps?? or are they played more as genuine centre square starters.

Interested to know as the importance of a top line winger is really becoming a more valued asset again.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

That doesn’t mean we throw away esava for a packet of stale chips

No - we want the flat bottle of Fanta as well !!!

 

[Tony Barber]

You can package it up any way you like mate - but he is a very ordinary kick - and he is not quick

One of the reasons Geelong are Premiers - is the improvement in some players

For example Atkins - there was very good improvement this season from him - he went past Parfitt - and 99.7% of Geel supporters would say that Atkins at this point in time is a better player than Parfitt

And if Geel are to continue to improve - im hoping this time next year a couple more players have gone past Parfitt - perhaps Cooper Stephens or maybe Dempsey

Parfitt is a better player than atkins. So put me in the .03%

However, I would have picked atkins first for the GF.
He’s better at the centre bounce.

Can’t we have both?

 

[geelong_crazy26]

He might be worth it, but let him go

a second rounder would be fair to let him go. We are not a charity either. He has alot of value given the scarcity of key defenders in his age bracket. We all know he can come into AFL level and have a huge impact in that role.

if SDK goes down coming into the finals, Sav could be the difference between winning or losing a final at that point for backup.

he is worth at least a second rounder (30ish to 40) range.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Little things like oppo posters coming here to describe Mackie as a flog, and our club as sh*t ??

Yeah, nah.

Come on mate.

Maybe Mackie is behaving like a flog, maybe he isn't. Does it really matter if he is?
We have no say in what will occur between now and Wednesday night. Let's just enjoy it.

p.s. on reflection the 2nd ban was much fairer.

 

[year of the cat]

If Bailey Humphrey’s nickname isn’t “Bear” y’all need to LIFT.








Humphrey, B. “Bear”

And my daughter says my jokes are terrible….

 

[Hinkley29]

Just won a flag, look like nailing the trade period. We should all be cockahoop.
Not trying to get guys banned for soft stuff. Two sent packing for very little imo.

As a group we should harden up a little.
Enjoy the wondrous trade period that is unfolding and not let the little things irritate.

I agree.

We shouldn’t ban them, we should let them continue to embarrass themselves with their inane posting. There are plenty of capable posters on this board that will put them in their place. Let them reap what they sow.

 

[year of the cat]

I'm really keen on this kid - ditto Mackenzie.

I'd be more than happy with Clark, I'm sure we all would. But if Humprey, Mackenzie and Clark are all available, I'd probably have those three in that order as to who I would select.

The ceiling of Humprey is huge IMO.

An unpopular opinion, but I have those guys ahead of Clark as they have attributes that most young players on our list don't possess. A point of difference you could say..

Clark is clearly the safe option; you probably can't go wrong and he's likely to be a very good player. But I've always been one to take a more risky approach.

Hopefully I won't get banned for this comment as I know how keen most are on Clark and I completely get it

Basically, we can’t really go wrong. My order is Clark, McKenzie, Humphrey but wouldn’t be too fussed who we take. Happy to trust Wells.

 

[Turbocat]

I'm really keen on this kid - ditto Mackenzie.

I'd be more than happy with Clark, I'm sure we all would. But if Humprey, Mackenzie and Clark are all available, I'd probably have those three in that order as to who I would select.

The ceiling of Humprey is huge IMO.

An unpopular opinion, but I have those guys ahead of Clark as they have attributes that most young players on our list don't possess. A point of difference you could say..

Clark is clearly the safe option; you probably can't go wrong and he's likely to be a very good player. But I've always been one to take a more risky approach.

Hopefully I won't get banned for this comment as I know how keen most are on Clark and I completely get it

The risk appoach sound good when taking the risk.... one thinks positives thoughts. Tattslotto lives on it. The upside might be higher ..but the down side might be lower too. Can you live with P7 failing and being gone in three years for eg. for almost no games.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Basically, we can’t really go wrong. My order is Clark, McKenzie, Humphrey but wouldn’t be too fussed who we take. Happy to trust Wells.

Yep - we can't go wrong can we..

Who would of thought a few weeks ago we'd be debating which top 10 draftee we'd like to select?

In addition to that, we secure Bowes and he's a talent in his own right.

 

[catempire]

And my daughter says my jokes are terrible….

They almost certainly are but you got COMPETITION dad!

 

[Tony Barber]

If you google some of the vic metro basketball stuff he was tiny (I mean really small as 16/17 yo)…mid150cm! I think a reason why Cats took a chance as they were amazed he could compete at that elite level with such a height disadvantage. He then grew year 11 and 12 from that to the 185cm he was listed at draft and I think they hope he may have a few more cm in him…who knows.

edit. This is one image I found. Ollie in the middle. Same age as everyone else but tiny….The person on far left is Marcus Winghager from St Kilda

Rubbish. If he grew that quick then there’s problems.

Mitch brown was a mid who grew 12cm in 12 months and kept breaking down.
The body just can’t handle it.

My son grew 18cm in 18 months.
I couldn’t believe it.
He’s now 15 years 1 month.
He broke down twice. He’s now 183 (I’ve stopped measuring him) and he’s quit footy because of injuries.

I just can’t imagine anyone growing 30cm in 18 months.

 

[Lana]

The way I see it, Parfitt's best games have come when Selwood or Danger had missed and they freed him up into a more offensive role. Atkins fitting into that more defensive minded role can facilitate Parfitt taking Selwood rotations next year.

 

[Stokey]

Basically, we can’t really go wrong. My order is Clark, McKenzie, Humphrey but wouldn’t be too fussed who we take. Happy to trust Wells.

I think it might be Clark. Hawks would be mad not to pick a player like Humphrey. A big bodied midfielder is exactly what they need.

 

[Nickoo]

Another interpretation of Mackie being a “flog”.

Geelong didn’t initiate the Henry move; Henry did. Disgruntled at Collingwood and there’s one obvious new home for him given where he’s from and his brother.

The Henry camp approached Geelong. Hopper was our main target. There was a polite “thanks but no thanks”.

Hopper goes the other way and we suddenly have a clean slate.

Henry is now an option but not one we will move the earth for. He doesn’t fit a current priority need. The club view is a pick in the 20-30 range is the right price. We’ve been on the other side of this situation.

Mackie is being firm in this view in negotiations knowing that it’s not a huge loss if it falls over and the opportunity to get Henry will come again if it doesn’t work out in trade week.

I still think it gets done for 25 and change but some chance he tries his luck in the draft just to get out of Collingwood. Zero chance he’s a Pie from here.

There’s a good chance he’s still there in the draft at 25 anyway I reckon. Either way he’s not at Collingwood next year.


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[year of the cat]

Rubbish. If he grew that quick then there’s problems.

Mitch brown was a mid who grew 12cm in 12 months and kept breaking down.
The body just can’t handle it.

My son grew 18cm in 18 months.
I couldn’t believe it.
He’s now 15 years 1 month.
He broke down twice. He’s now 183 (I’ve stopped measuring him) and he’s quit footy because of injuries.

I just can’t imagine anyone growing 30cm in 18 months.

Imagine how his Mum felt buying him new clothes every second week?

 

[Boxhead_31]

Would love to get GCs Pick 5 to get this guy.

We can't get it, we don't have enough to give without giving a player now.

 

[Boxhead_31]

That doesn’t mean we throw away esava for a packet of stale chips

A 3rd round pick isn't worthless

 

[CHAWKTS]

Rubbish. If he grew that quick then there’s problems.

Mitch brown was a mid who grew 12cm in 12 months and kept breaking down.
The body just can’t handle it.

My son grew 18cm in 18 months.
I couldn’t believe it.
He’s now 15 years 1 month.
He broke down twice. He’s now 183 (I’ve stopped measuring him) and he’s quit footy because of injuries.

I just can’t imagine anyone growing 30cm in 18 months.

maybe….one of my kids grew 25cm over 18 months in year 10 and 11 and was ok….all of mine were late bloomers (he was the last one so we weren’t surprised by then - although he grew the most). But he was very skinny (like Ollie?) so maybe that helps - frankly all depends on when they go through puberty (some as early as 12 others - like my son - at 16).

anyway those photos on social media from 2018 don’t lie in terms of how abnormally small he was to his state team peers (obviously hadn’t gone through the change by then! It might be that the story has a bit of mayo on it in terms of how quickly the growth was but it certainly happened late given he was an inch taller than Winhanger when drafted who towered over him a couple of years before?

The important point was however (that might have got missed by the growth story and photo!) is that the club hopes he might have another few cm in him given how late his growth came. If he ends up 188 for example it adds something - maybe. Of course main issue for him right now is weight Not height!

 

[Stokey]

We can't get it, we don't have enough to give without giving a player now.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

The risk appoach sound good when taking the risk.... one thinks positives thoughts. Tattslotto lives on it. The upside might be higher ..but the down side might be lower too. Can you live with P7 failing and being gone in three years for eg. for almost no games.

It's all about that risk isn't it.

Personally, given by the end of the trade period we've likely brought in two 20 year old former first round draft picks (Bruhn and Henry) and we never expected to have this pick, I'd be happy to take more of a gamble.

I see Bowes as a big talent in his own right, and someone that will flourish in our system with the right coaching, development and environment.

Pick 7: I see as a big bonus that we never thought we'd see for some time. I'd be happy to take that risk and gamble on a Humphrey / Mackenzie. But more than happy for Clark also..

One thing is for certain. There are no definite guarantees of finding a long term player, Clark included.