Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[cats_09]

It's interesting this article not mentioning us at all.... matter of fact I haven't see us mentioned to him in any news article...

Exactly - I know there's been some chat on here about him and in the FB fan group, but I've seen no media mentions linking us to Doedee

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I’ve always considered Grundy to be highly overrated but I’d certainly take him if the $$ and trade options were favourable.

If we did get him though, what would that mean for Stanley? I’d be very reluctant to not offer him a contract, but IIRC he’s had to be convinced to play on in the past.

EDIT: Mitch Cleary on 7 just said that Stanley is very close to re-signing, so that’s that.

We need stanley plus another ruck given stanleys age.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I have us finishing 13th... ..to me that 8 or 9. I think the only GC player that is bid on in the top 10 is Big Jed

Plus mckay compo. Plus potentially parish. We wont be picking inside 10 i dont think

 

[rocker_oz33]

Plus mckay compo. Plus potentially parish. We wont be picking inside 10 i dont think

Unlucky 13 at best ...

 

[iameviljez]

I’ve always considered Grundy to be highly overrated but I’d certainly take him if the $$ and trade options were favourable.

If we did get him though, what would that mean for Stanley? I’d be very reluctant to not offer him a contract, but IIRC he’s had to be convinced to play on in the past.

Well, unless he's decided he's Got Enough Money, he stays regardless of who else is there.

I mean, whatever job he goes to next isn't going to pay him AFL money. Better to play a year in and out of the VFL if he's fit enough.

 

[Strange Cat]

All I ask for is a proper hard pre season and that whoever ****ed the black cat this year stays away from it for awhile

 

[Turbocat]

Pick 4 will get eaten up too so you’d assume they will want to trade it to get some other value from it. I’d be tempted to use our FF with maybe a swap of future 2nd round picks? Something like that anyway.

Be 17 clubs looking for a date. If I were GC Id be looking to trade up to 2 with it

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Anyone who thinks stanleys body will be abke to play a full year next year is on the wacky tobacky. Hence the need for a ruck.

Only needs to play 6-10 as Tobes will handle the rest.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

He was still terrible at 21 too.

Lucky for us we hav3 a man child that will be better than both of them at 21.
Ye of very little faith P O.

 

[Turbocat]

Pretty sure I could find a post where you said something similar at end 2021.

Probably not that the selwood era was over ...but yes for sure and I was glad to be wrong that after we we got trounced by Melb there was another flag in mainly the same side.

I could list reasons but it only sound like excuses.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Look just a view on our youth kids...

Look our youth eg Knevitt, Clark, Neale, Holmes, Bruhn, Conway etc does look good and potential..

But I beat you, if you asked all supporters from 17 clubs, I beat you they most likely say the same about there club.. Look im not saying ours won't be, but there is no guarantee this next lot of kids will be the next bunch of kids to take us to our next Premiership..

Please we just have to a little bit of hope that our senior players give these kids some guidance in to make our kids better than the 17 other teams..

While true, not every club has 7 top 25 picks on their list in the last 4 years, with another top 10 pick this year.

We're a bit different in that case, both to the majority of clubs, and ourselves in years gone by.

We're not being delusional in rating these guys, we should be expecting them to be good. It's why they were picked as high as they were.

It's not like 5-6 years ago where you're just praying that Timm House & Matthew Hayball can make a career out of themselves.

 

[Turbocat]

Plus mckay compo. Plus potentially parish. We wont be picking inside 10 i dont think

It depends on results this wkend, the comp goven, the sanders outcome ..and which players are bid on. I believe Walter will be the only player bid on in the first 10 and the comp for McKay will be 2.

So add two to where ever we finish.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Pretty sure I could find a post where you said something similar at end 2021.

Or 2019,

Or 2018,

Or 2014,

Or 2010,

We've done this dance a 100 times. If we're out of the 8 this time next year then we can have that discussion.

Until then it's premature. We don't even know what our list is going to look like in 3 months time.

 

[foxdog50]

Exactly - I know there's been some chat on here about him and in the FB fan group, but I've seen no media mentions linking us to Doedee

The old story " The ex Geelong Falcon" must be going back home to Geelong "

 

[cats_09]

The old story " The ex Geelong Falcon" must be going back home to Geelong "

Just like, "Mitch Duncan is from Perth, so surely he'll ask for a trade to WCE this season"...

 

[Turbocat]

While true, not every club has 7 top 25 picks on their list in the last 4 years, with another top 10 pick this year.

We're a bit different in that case, both to the majority of clubs, and ourselves in years gone by.

We're not being delusional in rating these guys, we should be expecting them to be good. It's why they were picked as high as they were.

It's not like 5-6 years ago where you're just praying that Timm House & Matthew Hayball can make a career out of themselves.

We really will not know till the younger group become our best players. I look back to the 1999 draft and the B&F winners from that draft. 2004 Ling, 2005 Corey , 2006 Chapman ...

so by the age of 23 to 25 that younger group were winning B&F's. .. and they were not only our best players they became the best players in the comp

 

[Turbocat]

This years top four is weak as piss and if we didn't have the bad run with injuries, we would easily be top 8, and add two decent mids into this years list and we are comfortable top 4.

Next year I think won't be different. Our defense suffered because our midfield was tragic. Fix the mids, and we stop letting teams pile on the i50s that put massive pressure on the defense.
Our attack was incredible considering how many games we weren't good out of the middle.

2 decent mids in the 24-28 age bracket and we comfortably make top 8. And with an easier fixture top 4.

There is no "outstanding" team this year like us last year, Dees in 21, us in 2019 (til we bottled the finals), Richmond in 2018 (til they bottled the PF).

Even if thats the case..and Im not sure of that... its doesn't automatically flow on to 2024.Yes easier fixture. Danger Stewart Blitz Stanley another year older. Add two mids that are in our best 10 players and it would alter things if all stayed fit.

 

[Turbocat]

Or 2019,

Or 2018,

Or 2014,

Or 2010,

We've done this dance a 100 times. If we're out of the 8 this time next year then we can have that discussion.

Until then it's premature. We don't even know what our list is going to look like in 3 months time.

Isn't that what we are discussing. None of us have our hands on the lever. Its no crime to express an opinion and Im yet to see any poster on here 100% right every time they post. Being incorrect at some time is a part of posting...

 

[moond0g]

Can we all remember…. As promising as Conway looks… he has hardly played even a handful of VFL games and zero AFL games… yet we keep talking like he is a guaranteed star.

So much water still to go under the bridge

Yeah some of the discussion here is a bit ridiculous. He’s literally played zero games and some people are talking about him like he’s dean cox reincarnated.

He may well turn out to be a gun, but it’d be diabolical list management to rely on that happening, and even more so to assume it’ll happen next year. Hence with ceglar out, we’ll almost certainly be getting a ruckman in during trade period.

 

[And_ROOS]

Because that is of zero benefit to him

Especially if another club puts him on a full contract and not a rookie deal.

If he fails at the combine, we take him. If he does well at the combine, he gets a better deal than we can offer.

Be mad not to go.

Anyone who thinks stanleys body will be abke to play a full year next year is on the wacky tobacky. Hence the need for a ruck.

I think even if he holds up well, he is getting on and getting to the age where rucks tend to slow down or fall off the cliff. Hopefully the club don't bank on him for more than 15 games next year, get games into Conway and try and find a Ceglar replacement that is over 23 but under 30 who is willing to step in if Conway or Stanley are injured, or able to work in games with Conway.

Surely we are looking at other teams 2nd/3rd rucks who aren't getting an opportunity.

Even if thats the case..and Im not sure of that... its doesn't automatically flow on to 2024.Yes easier fixture. Danger Stewart Blitz Stanley another year older. Add two mids that are in our best 10 players and it would alter things if all stayed fit.

Short preseason under the flag and the worst injury crisis we have had since the early 2000s is why I have faith we bounce back next year. Add in the easier fixture and if we pick up the right players this will be exactly like 2015/2016 (with hopefully a better ending).

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Yeah some of the discussion here is a bit ridiculous. He’s literally played zero games and some people are talking about him like he’s dean cox reincarnated.

He may well turn out to be a gun, but it’d be diabolical list management to rely on that happening, and even more so to assume it’ll happen next year. Hence with ceglar out, we’ll almost certainly be getting a ruckman in during trade period.

Too right we will. just hoping we aren’t silly enough to chase Grundy.

 

[CHAWKTS]

Absolutely I do.

Was a two part question…

so you…absolutely…”think before you post”. Or absolutely think he can “take over the ruck at afl next year”. Or both

If the answer is yes to the second part then I actually agree…if answer is yes to first part….

 

[TheCattery2007]

While true, not every club has 7 top 25 picks on their list in the last 4 years, with another top 10 pick this year.

We're a bit different in that case, both to the majority of clubs, and ourselves in years gone by.

We're not being delusional in rating these guys, we should be expecting them to be good. It's why they were picked as high as they were.

It's not like 5-6 years ago where you're just praying that Timm House & Matthew Hayball can make a career out of themselves.

Who are our 7 top 25 picks over the past 4 years. No challenging, genuinely excited by that info!


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[CHAWKTS]

For mine the era is certainly over. We still might contend next year if like in 22 others walk under a ladder while we have a good run

If was interesting listening to him on SEN. He is all about the numbers and he was quite compelling in terms of what was down in 23 and how it “could be” different in 24. He noted that the difference between 21 (when the era was certainly over…) and 22 (too old too slow too good) was the impact of 3 young players (Max, SDK, i forgot!) and lack of injuries in the back half of the year.

So he wasn’t saying that the Cats would bounce back but did say it was possible that the era still has some way to go if we get improvement in some youth and a full preseason