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Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

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While the view the Saints will hold onto their contracted ruckman has softened, the expectation is that, if they do entertain a trade, their first preference will be to receive a proven player in return for Marshall. That makes a deal more difficult. The more obvious outcome would be for the Saints to ask for a future pick as next year’s draft is commonly thought to have a stronger field of talent than this year’s.
 
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While the view the Saints will hold onto their contracted ruckman has softened, the expectation is that, if they do entertain a trade, their first preference will be to receive a proven player in return for Marshall. That makes a deal more difficult. The more obvious outcome would be for the Saints to ask for a future pick as next year’s draft is commonly thought to have a stronger field of talent than this year’s.
Really at this stage …just send Neale into the ruck and get Cunrow

**** dealing with SOS
 
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While the view the Saints will hold onto their contracted ruckman has softened, the expectation is that, if they do entertain a trade, their first preference will be to receive a proven player in return for Marshall. That makes a deal more difficult. The more obvious outcome would be for the Saints to ask for a future pick as next year’s draft is commonly thought to have a stronger field of talent than this year’s.

He's 30, and what, rolled in gold?
 
I'm mixed on SDK his 22 season was peak, and he's still young enough but sometimes he looks like he's going through the motions. Do you think we could trade Martin back to the Blues?
 

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I've said it before but I do agree Kolo would be the most obvious one to trade as part of any possible deals.

NOT because I don't like him or don't rate him. Simply because we made a GF without him, and with COS nailing down a key defender spot, it makes it a bit harder to fit everyone in if Kolo comes back.

Plus he's 30 so has fewer potential years of good service than someone like SDK. We really do need to hold onto our young good players to prevent us finding ourselves in a Collingwood situation where we're super ageing and have nothing coming through.
 
I've said it before but I do agree Kolo would be the most obvious one to trade as part of any possible deals.

NOT because I don't like him or don't rate him. Simply because we made a GF without him, and with COS nailing down a key defender spot, it makes it a bit harder to fit everyone in if Kolo comes back.

Plus he's 30 so has fewer potential years of good service than someone like SDK. We really do need to hold onto our young good players to prevent us finding ourselves in a Collingwood situation where we're super ageing and have nothing coming through.

He's also the only one even remotely a chance to want to go, Henry and Guthrie are rusted on Cats.
 
If Wilkie leaves they'll definitely need a key defender
They already have Flanders on their wish list
It's a 30 year old ruckman who is replaced already and it's Kolo I was discussing not SDK.
I wouldn't let SDK go

They spent a top 10 on tauru last year and they spent big money on silvagni and aleer. Sdk is a luxury compared to fixing their midfield. (Wilkie wont leave either).
 
I've said it before but I do agree Kolo would be the most obvious one to trade as part of any possible deals.

NOT because I don't like him or don't rate him. Simply because we made a GF without him, and with COS nailing down a key defender spot, it makes it a bit harder to fit everyone in if Kolo comes back.

Plus he's 30 so has fewer potential years of good service than someone like SDK. We really do need to hold onto our young good players to prevent us finding ourselves in a Collingwood situation where we're super ageing and have nothing coming through.

Kolo at his age has very little trade value hes worth a r3 at best (would be about that value as an FA), which wont move the needle on curnow. Sdk has more value.
 
What I have been told.

Wilkie has been offered 1.5 mil a year by the bulldogs. The only question mark is who they get in return (targeting Frejiah). Aleer is getting paid less than reported and will be a late pick. GWS have a salary squeeze.

As I reported earlier Flanders is likely at St Kilda. They kicked off everything with Merrit. They also have another inside Mid on the radar - not sure who?

I'm told SDk is currently part of discussions regarding Marshall and is a real possibility. Scott doesn't see how all of COS, Kolo, Henry and SDK all fit within the same backline.

Don't shoot the messenger
Dude was injured all year, how can we be sure he doesn't do a CGuthrie and never gets back on the track. Risking a lot on the back of 30 year old who didn't play at all this season. Maybe he comes back and does well, but I am not sure I would be betting on him coming back in 2022 form thats for sure. Wild from the list managers if thats the case.

Its amazing i know Ladhams isn't a big name at all, but its amazing i haven't heard his name been mentioned to any club.
Had behaviour issues at Port, but also at the Swans heading into finals in 2022 he stupidly got himself a 4 week suspension the week before finals in the VFL meaning the Swans couldn't use him if they needed him.

That said, he played ruck 2 times this year for the Swans, one of those was against us, and he was the best rated ruck. But he spent most of his time this season as a forward.

He has also missed games with injury, which makes me wonder about his durability.
 
He's also the only one even remotely a chance to want to go, Henry and Guthrie are rusted on Cats.

Isn't kolos best option to do one or two more years here then go to tassie as a player or coach?
 
Carlton are going to ask for a lot for Curnow and I just don't see how we facilitate that because they will want someone like a Dempsey or a Holmes.

100 % correct.
 

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Isn't kolos best option to do one or two more years here then go to tassie as a player or coach?

You'd think so. I think some are forgetting how good he had been the last few years, would have been a great addition in the GF team in place of Clark coming off half back.
 
I've said it before but I do agree Kolo would be the most obvious one to trade as part of any possible deals.

NOT because I don't like him or don't rate him. Simply because we made a GF without him, and with COS nailing down a key defender spot, it makes it a bit harder to fit everyone in if Kolo comes back.

Plus he's 30 so has fewer potential years of good service than someone like SDK. We really do need to hold onto our young good players to prevent us finding ourselves in a Collingwood situation where we're super ageing and have nothing coming through.
What would be the point of that?

The folks suggesting trading SDK aren't doing so because they don't rate him, or they think we'd be better without him.

They're raising it because in this competition, you have to give quality to get quality, and the reality is that he's still got value on the open market to get said quality (Curnow, Butters etc).

Kolo doesn't have value. He's turning 31 next year, has a history of concussion issues, and hasn't played in 12 months.

He's a solid soldier, and his importance is underrated when he's fit and in form, but there is seriously zero point trading him.

Even if he comes back cooked in 2026, he'd be worth more to us as depth in the VFL for a year than the 2nd/3rd round pick we'd get in a deal.
 
I've said it before but I do agree Kolo would be the most obvious one to trade as part of any possible deals.

NOT because I don't like him or don't rate him. Simply because we made a GF without him, and with COS nailing down a key defender spot, it makes it a bit harder to fit everyone in if Kolo comes back.

Plus he's 30 so has fewer potential years of good service than someone like SDK. We really do need to hold onto our young good players to prevent us finding ourselves in a Collingwood situation where we're super ageing and have nothing coming through.
The snag is that, despite being a very very good player, he's too old for most list managers to seriously consider him
 
What would be the point of that?

The folks suggesting trading SDK aren't doing so because they don't rate him, or they think we'd be better without him.

They're raising it because in this competition, you have to give quality to get quality, and the reality is that he's still got value on the open market to get said quality (Curnow, Butters etc).

Kolo doesn't have value. He's turning 31 next year, has a history of concussion issues, and hasn't played in 12 months.

He's a solid soldier, and his importance is underrated when he's fit and in form, but there is seriously zero point trading him.

Even if he comes back cooked in 2026, he'd be worth more to us as depth in the VFL for a year than the 2nd/3rd round pick we'd get in a deal.
Marshall is a bridge too far with that concept imo

If he was 25 I could see the arguments
 
SDK hasnt been the same since he broke his jaw. It would probably be best for both parties for him to get a fresh start elsewhere now, i agree with others here when they say he looks disinterested or lacking motivation.

So with that: Trade SDK to Saints for Marshall and a first rounder. If we can move some picks into next years draft via this trade then that might be a good secondary outcome from this trade for us.

Package the Saints first + our first this year and dangle it in front of Port to convince them to move Butters a year before they get bugger all for him when he leaves as a Free Agent.

Bring Worpel in as a Free agent.

Then if we get 1 of Bruhn/Guthrie back then we are adding that player + Worpel, Butters and Marshall into a midfield that is already pretty good. That gives us the depth we need in there to attack Brisbane again.

Given we are clearly in the "window" now, then bringing Kolo into that defence at his age isnt the worst move in the world, and it gives us another 2-3 years to find a replacement via the draft. I always forget that Kolo isnt that old still, even though it feels like he has been around for ages.

Just my thoughts on what id like to see this trade period given current rumours.
 

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This isn't rage posting and not criticising the individuals
But if we are trading best 22 players I'd put up Stengle and Mannagh
These are players that have currency and I think we could replace in our system.

Thinking of the soccer mentality of getting them cheap, developing and offloading for a profit
 
SDK hasnt been the same since he broke his jaw. It would probably be best for both parties for him to get a fresh start elsewhere now, i agree with others here when they say he looks disinterested or lacking motivation.

So with that: Trade SDK to Saints for Marshall and a first rounder. If we can move some picks into next years draft via this trade then that might be a good secondary outcome from this trade for us.

Package the Saints first + our first this year and dangle it in front of Port to convince them to move Butters a year before they get bugger all for him when he leaves as a Free Agent.

Bring Worpel in as a Free agent.

Then if we get 1 of Bruhn/Guthrie back then we are adding that player + Worpel, Butters and Marshall into a midfield that is already pretty good. That gives us the depth we need in there to attack Brisbane again.

Given we are clearly in the "window" now, then bringing Kolo into that defence at his age isnt the worst move in the world, and it gives us another 2-3 years to find a replacement via the draft. I always forget that Kolo isnt that old still, even though it feels like he has been around for ages.

Just my thoughts on what id like to see this trade period given current rumours.
If we trade SDK (which I think is unlikely), we’d want a fair bit back from the Saints even with Marshall coming to us.
Agree there’s potential upside in the midfield if a few things fall our way - Bruhn, Guthrie and Worley give us desperately needed depth.
We were basically missing Kolo and Stewart from our best 23 in the backline for the GF. That hurts.
 
This isn't rage posting and not criticising the individuals
But if we are trading best 22 players I'd put up Stengle and Mannagh
These are players that have currency and I think we could replace in our system.

Thinking of the soccer mentality of getting them cheap, developing and offloading for a profit
If we're trading players out we'd want to make sure we're getting better as a team for it in return, pretty big step backwards if we lose Stengle and Manna.
 
This isn't rage posting and not criticising the individuals
But if we are trading best 22 players I'd put up Stengle and Mannagh
These are players that have currency and I think we could replace in our system.

Thinking of the soccer mentality of getting them cheap, developing and offloading for a profit
Agree. I’d be prepared to trade Mannagh for the right price (a first rounder). He’s fantastic but I think we need to capitalise on his increased value.
 
SDK and a future 3rd for Marshall and 7

Trade 7 and 17 for Curnow.

Get butters next year as a FA.

SDK is not going to be the player we thought he’d be after 22’
Everyday of the week, of course only if he wants to go but SDK for Marshall who was an AA level ruckman and Curnow an A grade forward for one defender we can cover for. Who's passing on that?
 
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