Goddard a big mistake?

[Bennycoff]

was brendon goddard a complete waste of a number 1 draft pick, do you think you could have gotten someone better? im waiting for him to turn matches and be best and ground and dominate like hodge,judd and ball do.
are those 3 just that good everyone thinks goddard isnt good?

will he ever produce for you? cos id have hodge before him anyday.

 

[Otiman]

Disappointing, not fast or mobile enough to be a dominant midfielder, and not strong enough to be a KPP, he seems to be stuck in the middle.

Hopefully the saints training staff can do something with him for next year or he should be traded for someone decent. We'll take a top 10 pick for him i'd say.

 

[Bennycoff]

goddard for danny jacobs?

 

[sainter]

Can we stop comparing the kid to other early draft picks?

He has missed very few games since making his debut. This pre-season in particular he has put on a lot of weight and that was always going to take a bit to get used too. He's a very good field kick and in time he'll improve his physical play. He has disappointed me on occasions but I'll be surprised if he doesn't turn out to be a very good player for the St Kilda Football Club.

 

[panthers]

Im with you Sainter BJ is a big lad and does a good job most games He will only get better and better.

How dare you come in here to a saints forum FARCOFF and compare hodge in here WHAT DID BAKER DO TO HODGE TODAY HE ABSOLUTELY BEAT HIM HANDS DOWN FARCOFF DIDNT HE HODGE DIDNT GET THE EASY LITTLE KICKS he usually gets playing in the backlines for that soft a sh it team called the hawks

 

[davieblaze]

The kid is only 21yrs old. Sometimes when i see him play i cant help but feel like he isn't used to all that weight he has put on yet.. Im no expert on that kind of thing but it just feels like he wants to play a game different than what his body will let him on occasion.

But he is only young and in time as he gets more and more confortable he'll improve. He's still learning and just because he was a high draft pick doesn't mean he will walk straight onto the ground and dominate. The best is yet to come from him and given he is only so young i think its premature to write him off. As he is now he still holds a possition well.

Does anyone else think putting all that weight on so quick wasn't the best move?
i feel like id have rather seen them ease extra weight on him more.. but as i said i dont know sh it about that stuff. Just cant help getting the feeling he's woken up with a massive ammount of extra mass and still trys to play a quicker game than his body will let him at times.

 

[Kildonan]

The kid is only 21yrs old.

Actually - he will turn 20 later this month ! DOB 20-May-85
He is a teenager

But he is only young and in time as he gets more and more confortable he'll improve. He's still learning and just because he was a high draft pick doesn't mean he will walk straight onto the ground and dominate. The best is yet to come from him and given he is only so young i think its premature to write him off. As he is now he still holds a position well.

Luke Hodge only started playing to his draft pick expectations this year. He is a year older than Goddard. Brendan is a bigger player, and may take even longer than Hodge to reach his peak, but there is no doubt that suggestions that he is underperforming are ill-informed and premature.

 

[Terry Tan]

I see him as playing a Shane Tuck type of role, getting a lot of clearances from inside packs with his big frame. Tuck is of similar height, build and speed to Goddard, and his strength has dominated clearances this year.

The Saints have got the outside class like Dal Santo and Hayes, and the mighty big engine in Ball on the inside. If Goddard became a hard inside player to help Ball, then this would ease Ball's load. ATM Ball looks all banged up trying to win clearances on his own with no help.

Even though Goddard is still very young, he has got the experience and build to play the role now. When is GT going to realise this and give him the inside role to play.

 

[F/D]

Not trolling and dont take it as an offence or anything, but:

In hindsight, would you have taken Daniel Wells ahead of BJ now?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Mark Bolton Board

 

[Moquo]

Not trolling and dont take it as an offence or anything, but:

In hindsight, would you have taken Daniel Wells ahead of BJ now?

No way. BJ will get better.....& better.....& better......

 

[Bennycoff]

goddard will never be as good as hodge pinkpanthers! simple as that!
he might still be a good player, but it will be in a floating position similar to hodge. ay guys hodge is only 20 atm, so theres not much difference.
both have potential to be very good players but hodge has leadership.

 

[Franz]

Absolute crap. He's taken a while to adjust but he's a kid FFS. Mark my words, he'll be better than Wells and most others. Its easy to look good in an average side. Goddard plays alongside Dal Santo, Ball and Hayes.

He has fantastic vision and disposal, he's just low on confidence.

Please bookmark this thread!

 

[panthers]

Bennycoff (quote) hodge has leadership
Yep you are right there farcoff He was LED a merry dance by the MIGHTY SAINTERS on Saturday.

 

[garth p]

was brendon goddard a complete waste of a number 1 draft pick, do you think you could have gotten someone better? im waiting for him to turn matches and be best and ground and dominate like hodge,judd and ball do.
are those 3 just that good everyone thinks goddard isnt good?

will he ever produce for you? cos id have hodge before him anyday.

He suits us just fine. Thanks for asking clown, but you already know the answer to questions about supposed dud no.1 picks, don't you. You have been asked enough times.

 

[Winmar]

I've seen 90% of the games he's played in, and I must say I'm yet to be impressed. He's been better in recent weeks (when he was in the team), but has also been very lucky not to have been dropped a few times over the past year.

 

[Joffaboy]

was brendon goddard a complete waste of a number 1 draft pick, do you think you could have gotten someone better? im waiting for him to turn matches and be best and ground and dominate like hodge,judd and ball do.
are those 3 just that good everyone thinks goddard isnt good?

will he ever produce for you? cos id have hodge before him anyday.

Croad/Hodge Board.

Croad worst pick up of all time and you hacks did it twice

Hodge, soft as butter and only gets cheap kicks in the back half.

Judd
Ball

Daylight

Hodge.

As for Goddard. In time will be better than Hodge, Ball, Dal Santo, Wells and will rival Riewoldt.

 

[bdmaw1]

Croad/Hodge Board.

Croad worst pick up of all time and you hacks did it twice

Hodge, soft as butter and only gets cheap kicks in the back half.

Judd
Ball

Daylight

Hodge.

As for Goddard. In time will be better than Hodge, Ball, Dal Santo, Wells and will rival Riewoldt.

I don't know why i bother. Obviously you haven't seen too many hawthorn games this year. Croad is just about All Australian centre half back and broke even with riewolt on saturday. Hodge is one of the toughest players going around so i have no idea what your on about their. And i think there aint too much daylight if any between the 2001 trio.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Croad/Hodge Board.

Croad worst pick up of all time and you hacks did it twice

Hodge, soft as butter and only gets cheap kicks in the back half.

Judd
Ball

Daylight

Hodge.

As for Goddard. In time will be better than Hodge, Ball, Dal Santo, Wells and will rival Riewoldt.

NFI

 

[Bojangles17]

Croad/Hodge Board.


As for Goddard. In time will be better than Hodge, Ball, Dal Santo, Wells and will rival Riewoldt.

that was the thinking pre draft day....a few years on and we know better than that now....he will never ever be in their league and thats a fact

 

[bozza1980]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joffaboy
Croad/Hodge Board.


As for Goddard. In time will be better than Hodge, Ball, Dal Santo, Wells and will rival Riewoldt.



that was the thinking pre draft day....a few years on and we know better than that now....he will never ever be in their league and thats a fact

Just a point of argument I don't believe it is blatantly obvious that he is not as good as Wells, beyond that though if the boy is not as good as Hodge, Ball, Dal Santo and Riewoldt does that mean he is a dud??

I think that Riewoldt will end up being considered one of the best that ever played, Ball and Dal Santo will be considered two of the better players to wear the red, white and Black and Hodge is a classy number 1 draft pick.

Goddard is a good 19 year old AFL player, we will not be trading him and he will play 200+ games for the club and be an above average league footballer, which would make more than an adequate return on a no.1 pick.

 

[Turbocat]

A big mistake , hardly. IMO , the kid is a classy player who is real jack of all trades , the only question is, and it aplies just as much to us(cats) or any team who has built a handy list, can you hold them all and if not is he the right player for your imediate and future needs. Thats for you guys to sort.
One option, Trade him to a Carlton and top up with another young gun kid a bit like Brisbane did with Headland.

 

[narthola_04]

A big mistake , hardly. IMO , the kid is a classy player who is real jack of all trades , the only question is, and it aplies just as much to us(cats) or any team who has built a handy list, can you hold them all and if not is he the right player for your imediate and future needs. Thats for you guys to sort.
One option, Trade him to a Carlton and top up with another young gun kid a bit like Brisbane did with Headland.

You know i agree in a certain way, i feel terrible for saying it but footy is a business and if he doesn't work out for us, we will eventually need to off load someone to relieve the cap, it won't be one of the bigger names so i would say that bj could provide a decent trade for us, if we had wells we'd have a certain problem on our hands.

Although I hope it doesn't happen because, and here's the thing, you ask melbourne supporters what they thought of travis johnstone 12 months ago and they had him roasting on a spit im sure (if not 12 it was at least in the last two years) look at what they are saying about him now! Different players take different paths of development, im confident that BJ will show us all what it was that made him number 1.

 

[Buster the hawk]

As a rule ,teams that have players who are as talented as Goddard is ,yet still not probably rated in the best five players in the team usually win Grand Finals.The guy has barely if at all missed a senior game since coming into the AFL.I wish we had him.

 

[bozza1980]

As a rule ,teams that have players who are as talented as Goddard is ,yet still not probably rated in the best five players in the team usually win Grand Finals.The guy has barely if at all missed a senior game since coming into the AFL.I wish we had him.

I think that you have summed it up, BJ has been solid without being spectacular but that doesn't make him a dud. He is a required player and will remain at St Kilda and will play 200+ games, just call me Nostradamus.