Autopsy Got there in the end - Swans def Blues

[SwansProudly]

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Is that more that the small forwards turned up or Ladhams actually impacting comparative to McLean?

Bit of both but Ladhams is a significant upgrade. Bag Pete for whatever but you can’t fault his effort every week. McLean dead set mopes around when he isn’t marking it.

 

[Punts]

Adams for jmac and Buller for Amartey but will be McLean

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Sheldrick is better than Adams give me him over Adams ever day of the week for Sydney, unless your bringing in Adams over Corey Warner who looks in a stinker run of form I'd hate to see them chuck Gus to the curb after providing fit in the first half

I would play both wouldn’t necessarily play Adams in the centre anyway though we could with Heeney being a pseudo full forward for a few weeks. I wouldn’t be playing Mills that’s asking for trouble he was on restricted minutes

 

[Punts]

Mills needs to play a full game imo in the 2s

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Adams for jmac and Buller for Amartey but will be McLean

Watch Paton be back lol

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Have to replace Francis as well...

 

[Kbroome]

Bit of both but Ladhams is a significant upgrade. Bag Pete for whatever but you can’t fault his effort every week. McLean dead set mopes around when he isn’t marking it.

Ladhams didn't kick a goal had 1 tackle

McLean last week kicked a goal and had 2 tackles

I don't think my analysis is too strong but it points to more so the small forwards turning up

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Ladhams didn't kick a goal had 1 tackle

McLean last week kicked a goal and had 2 tackles

I don't think my analysis is too strong but it points to more so the small forwards turning up

Ladhams may only have had a tackle but he was always running and at least putting in the effort that’s all I ask. I don’t ask much just put in the effort. The small forwards doing something did help though

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Mills needs to play a full game imo in the 2s

With the option to sub him out (assuming no injuries) & thereby not play the full game, I think Cox will roll the dice and bring Mills in this week.

 

[Kbroome]

Ladhams may only have had a tackle but he was always running and at least putting in the effort that’s all I ask. I don’t ask much just put in the effort. The small forwards doing something did help though

McLean 9 pressure acts in rd9

Ladhams 10 pressure acts in rd10

McLean averages 8.3 pressure acts this season down on previous years

Ladhams averages 6.4 pressure acts this year


The stats don't add up with your opinion

 

[Bloods86]

I would play both wouldn’t necessarily play Adams in the centre anyway though we could with Heeney being a pseudo full forward for a few weeks. I wouldn’t be playing Mills that’s asking for trouble he was on restricted minutes

Yep. Amazing how quickly some forget the negative impact we've had with playing underdone/unfit players, especially with all the noise that this board has made about it in the past. Mills looked good in a half, but needs to play at a decent standard for a full game first.

Out: Amartey Francis Jmac
In: Buller Adams Florent
Sub: Hanily

Hamling to defence. Sheldrick and Adams can help Isaac play more forward as we've both said.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

McLean 9 pressure acts in rd9

Ladhams 10 pressure acts in rd10

McLean averages 8.3 pressure acts this season down on previous years

Ladhams averages 6.4 pressure acts this year


The stats don't add up with your opinion

You forget one stat

Amount of times McLean mopes around- every other time.

He is turtle slow. Look ideally you’d play none of these two and Francis but I’m definitely going Ladhams over those two he’s less likely to annoy me

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yep. Amazing how quickly some forget the negative impact we've had with playing underdone/unfit players, especially with all the noise that this board has made about it in the past. Mills looked good in a half, but needs to play at a decent standard for a full game first.

Out: Amartey Francis Jmac
In: Buller Adams Florent
Sub: Hanily

Sheldrick and Adams can help Isaac play more forward as we've both said.

Yeah ideally I’d have Mills playing two full VFL games. See how he pulls up then play another VFL game, and again see how he pulls up. Before anyone says just play him as the sub…look at this week when we had to use Florent early. It’s asking for trouble

 

[Bloods86]

With the option to sub him out (assuming no injuries) & thereby not play the full game, I think Cox will roll the dice and bring Mills in this week.

I think he might.

But it shows we haven't learned any lessons.

We didn't/couldn't sub him off last year (in several games) when we should have, so I don't know why this is considered any kind of plan.

 

[Kbroome]

You forget one stat

Amount of times McLean mopes around- every other time.

He is turtle slow. Look ideally you’d play none of these two and Francis but I’m definitely going Ladhams over those two he’s less likely to annoy me

No your argument is just getting destroyed through statistics right in front of you.

McLean is an average AFL player most of the time and is currently out of form but he is still putting up better numbers than Ladhams.

The stats are showing that it isn't any difference to Pressure on ball caused by McLean or Ladhams but more so directly caused by the small forwards turning up


PA difference between Carlton game and their average:

Cleary +6
Campbell +1
Hayward +5
McInerney +1
Corey -2


Tackles
Campbell +3
Cleary -2
Hayward +1
McInerney +1

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I think he might.

But it shows we haven't learned any lessons.

We didn't/couldn't sub him off last year when we should have, so I don't know why this is considered any kind of plan.

Now watch us cop an injury first minute then Mills can’t last a game

Oh goody where have I seen this script before

 

[bedford]

I’d be more inclined to bring Adams back than Mills still feel we need to have Mills play a FULL reserves game first (this week). Look at him coming back in 2 weeks with JMac too and maybe Melican

Sub

 

[liz]

Campbell ...I feel like he is biting off less than he can chew.

I love that turn of phrase! Perfectly put.

 

[bedford]

Adams for jmac and Buller for Amartey but will be McLean

I sadly feel the same

 

[caesar88]

IMO the period that won us the game was on the back of a five or ten minute period late in the third when our pressure just broke Carlton. You could see the fight leaving their players, happening in real time, and they never recovered, even after the 3QT break. It reminded me of the GF ambushes we've faced where the game basically slips out of our grasp in the blink of an eye because of some sustained pressure on us.

Campbell, Cleary, Warner Jr, Wicks etc were amazing in this period. We don't win without them.

 

[SwansLifer]

Sheldrick is better than Adams give me him over Adams ever day of the week for Sydney, unless your bringing in Adams over Corey Warner who looks in a stinker run of form I'd hate to see them chuck Gus to the curb after providing fit in the first half

I actually think it might be time for Corey to have a rest. Get him back in the 2s and let him get a bit more of the ball. His pressure is fine, but he needs to be able to get the ball more often and most important out of it all, not turn it over.
I have enjoyed his improved play so far, well for the most part, but it can be a long season. Get Adams in as sub and put O-Flo into Corey's spot.

 

[Bloods86]

IMO the period that won us the game was on the back of a five or ten minute period late in the third when our pressure just broke Carlton. You could see the fight leaving their players, happening in real time, and they never recovered, even after the 3QT break. It reminded me of the GF ambushes we've faced where the game basically slips out of our grasp in the blink of an eye because of some sustained pressure on us.

Campbell, Cleary, Warner Jr, Wicks etc were amazing in this period. We don't win without them.

Didn't make the highlights package, so did it really matter that much?

 

[caesar88]

Didn't make the highlights package, so did it really matter that much?

Guarantee it makes the highlights package in the team meeting tomorrow.

 

[The King!]

I think Hamling is going to have to stay forward which I'm not a fan of. Melbourne don't have many good tall forwards.

I agree with Punts give Mills another week in the twos, why rush after being so careful.

I think we go shorter up front , but Hamling and Ladhams hmm. Will be hayward to play well, Adams in means Heeney and Warner can push forward though, Florent plays a full game. i don't think Mclean should be back from one shit game, not sold on Buller.


Florent comes back in, we looked better and at least Ladhams competes.


Out Francis, Jmac, Amartey

In Adams, Hanily , and heck maybe Paton and he can be sub

Hanily forward , Ladhams and Sheldrick to relieve Heeney and warner

 

[SwansLifer]

When you look at the long range forecast it looks like a decent chance its going to be wet.
Maybe that gives someone like Corey more of an opportunity to stay in.
Florent probably comes into the starting 22.
Adams is almost surely being picked.
If it actually is wet I wouldn't be risking Mills at all. Now I'm not saying they shouldn't pick him, but if there is any doubt that he can't play a game of AFL then you don't play him. At this point in time, without knowing how he pulled up and what his program is, I say not to play him.
I bring back Hanily for groundball pressure and then the last spot goes to Paton (I know, I know).

Out: Francis, Amartey, JMac
In: Adams, Hanily, Paton

Rely on Ladhams forward for small parts like Friday night, with Hamling playing his usual defensive forward role, this time on May.
Heeney and Hayward are the guys that have to play taller. If the Dee's try and go bigger in their forward line, Hamling can always go back.
Oh, and watch out for one of the best match ups for the round. Wicks on Pickett.