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Ben may well be Champion data's worst one on one player for last year but how many games was that data based on? He played f%&k all remember. Otherwise, it's touching to see Santa's little helper taking up the slack now that he's been banned.
 
Ben may well be Champion data's worst one on one player for last year but how many games was that data based on? He played f%&k all remember. Otherwise, it's touching to see Santa's little helper taking up the slack now that he's been banned.


I am pretty sure that stat doing the rounds is based on his 1 game if I recall correctly, making it a pretty cheap and BS stat to hang a kid on.
 

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I am pretty sure that stat doing the rounds is based on his 1 game if I recall correctly, making it a pretty cheap and BS stat to hang a kid on.
Read what I wrote. 2012. "Griffiths struggled in the body-on-body contests, recording the worst winning percentage of any key defender in the AFL during the H&A season who was involved in at least 10 one on one contests."

I don't need to make up stats, anyone who has ever watched him play at senior level can see he is a weak contested mark. Even Zephaniah Skinner made him look silly. He's not even VFL standard going by the last two years, so he needs to pull finger really quick if anything is going to change.
 
heck with these awesome stats flying around why should we support him! Why should we even believe he could actually improve? All kids his size are bonafide superstars at his age! I'm done with him


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Was watching the Matt McDonough video tonight and Ben featured along the way. Go to around 40 secs.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-01-08/mcdonoughs-plan-for-2014

One small example I know but I've seen it from him before and I've seen it from him at senior level. Let's keep playing him forward and lets cross our fingers he doesn't wipe himself out with injury. Like many others have said, he's not a backman.
 
Read what I wrote. 2012. "Griffiths struggled in the body-on-body contests, recording the worst winning percentage of any key defender in the AFL during the H&A season who was involved in at least 10 one on one contests."

I don't need to make up stats, anyone who has ever watched him play at senior level can see he is a weak contested mark. Even Zephaniah Skinner made him look silly. He's not even VFL standard going by the last two years, so he needs to pull finger really quick if anything is going to change.


Easy champ, no one accused you of making anything up, put ya mouse back in the house NZ.

We are all friends here.
 
Read what I wrote. 2012. "Griffiths struggled in the body-on-body contests, recording the worst winning percentage of any key defender in the AFL during the H&A season who was involved in at least 10 one on one contests."

I don't need to make up stats, anyone who has ever watched him play at senior level can see he is a weak contested mark. Even Zephaniah Skinner made him look silly. He's not even VFL standard going by the last two years, so he needs to pull finger really quick if anything is going to change.

Spot on. And nothing changed in 2013. His one on one work at Coburg was abysmal/embarrassing for a man of his size.
 
100% right..he simply doesn't compete hard enough and never has

He is with us for another year coops. Just give him one last chance and some support NOW. If this discussion was made in October at the time of delistings, I could understand your sentiments. As I have said, he is Richmond still and as such deserves our support. He may not turn things around but our players definitely won't improve with continual negative talk from their supporters. It doesn't work that way and I can tell you that is fact from someone who has been in charge of literally hundreds of trainees over the years.
In the end you have to ask yourself are you a Richmond supporter or are you just going to act like a troll?
 
He is with us for another year coops. Just give him one last chance and some support NOW. If this discussion was made in October at the time of delistings, I could understand your sentiments. As I have said, he is Richmond still and as such deserves our support. He may not turn things around but our players definitely won't improve with continual negative talk from their supporters. It doesn't work that way and I can tell you that is fact from someone who has been in charge of literally hundreds of trainees over the years.
In the end you have to ask yourself are you a Richmond supporter or are you just going to act like a troll?

Get real.

I am not allowed to have an opinion?
I have to support someone because they are on the list?
Really?
I would be more than happy to eat humble pie if Ben ever came out and played like a 200cm, 100kg key position player in his fifth year
 

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