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Congratulations sausageroll, no one else is eligible for the EKA and HoF in the same season. You are uniqueOur first inductee for Season 34 is a person I’m personally delighted in seeing reach the Hall of Fame, being a former teammate of mine both here and in the Fantasy Cricket comp before it died sausageroll. I caught up with Snags and discussed his time in the SFA now he’s reached the pinnacle of Individual awards.
Snags first congratulations on the HOF honour, what drew you into the SFA? Did someone invite you or did you stumble across the board by yourself?
Cheers Bonce, it’s an incredible honour and not something I ever dreamed about setting out to achieve when I joined.
Excellent lead into the first question mate, what drew you into the SFA? Did someone invite you or did you stumble across the board by yourself?
I joined BF as a resource for AFL Dream Team back in the good old days where you had to do your own research on players, and everything wasn’t handed to you on a platter. I was looking through the fantasy football forums and stumbled onto the SFA. I’d written basic footy sim programs in the past and had put a draft down for a more complex version but never got around to putting it into code. So when I saw Qooty I was instantly interested in seeing what this sim like. The Sharks had just been created I liked the work @Frankston Rover had done with the team so I joined them.
What were your first impressions of the league? Did a poster in particular stand out? Was there someone you tried to model your posting style on?
I enjoyed it right from the start. I started as a small forward but soon worked my way into the midfield. I was blessed with amos as a team mate that season. He was the most imaginative poster I’ve seen in and fantasy footy league who would bring team mates and opposition players into the thread with his posting. We had a similar attitude towards the game and bounced off each other really well that season. To this day, he’s still my favourite poster ever.
From the opposition, WCE_all_da_Way (Wally) and Big Man (Biggie) became instant favourites, mostly because I knew them from a forum called Talking Footy that we’d been on previously. Those two would become rivals for All-SFA spots in the midfield over the next few seasons.
Tarkyn_24 and Pie 4 Life were two that were always engaging from the start and I have enjoyed banter with and against in SFA and in rival qooty leagues.
There are a lot of current posters that I like a lot, but there’s a different level of enjoyment whenever I see any of the players from my early seasons (S7-S11) posting. The posters from those days are all among my favourites and I’m lucky to have quite a few of them as team mates at the Demons, some going stronger than ever.
Now its fair to say you’ve enjoyed your time at multiple clubs having played at 5 clubs over your journey, which club has been your favourite to play at? What do you remember about your time at each club?
I’ve really enjoyed periods with all clubs I’ve played at. The first season at the Sharks was great alongside amos and only one of the most controversial losses in the history of the game cost us a spot in the grand final.
The next season saw the Sharks merge with the Dragons, which technically counts as a change of clubs. A couple of people at the Bombers asked me to join them but the “Shagons” had several players I liked from another comp I’d been dragged across to in my first season (Take Forum) so I decided to stay. Over the next few seasons, more and more of the players I liked dropped off, while the Bombers kept hitting me up to join them. Eventually, after three seasons at the Dragons, I decided to move.
Highlight at the Dragons:
I still hold the record for the Dragons highest ever DT score for one match. I scored 173 DT, including 27 posessions, 11 tackles and 6 goals. It was in the first ever game for the Dragons and in the following 28 seasons no-one has ever matched it. There was no All-SFA that season but I led the league in stats. I’m not sure if there has ever been more DT points scored in a season by any other player. I’d like to know either way.
My time at the Bombers was split into four distinct periods…
Highlights at the Bombers:
- 1 and ½ seasons of full activity and 2 x All-SFA. I took over the captaincy late in my first season and recruited heavily, targeting my favourite ex-players and players from other qooty comps. Back in those days there were limits on how big threads on BF could be and the Bombers team thread broke those limits, which was unheard of from a team thread. The Hawks responded with a similar recruiting drive and for a short time the two clubs were posting powerhouses in the league and full of stars from the time. This, along with my history with Wally and Biggie and respect for their past players, is the reason I continue to be firmly against the rebrand of the club.
- In the second half of my second season with the Bombers I joined the RAAF. This included 10 weeks at recruit training where I had no access to internet at all and then 16 months of temporary postings and training where I had incredibly slow only dial up internet access. When I joined the RAAF we were top of the ladder. I had to step down from captaincy and couldn’t post for the rest of the season. I found out later that the team went out of the finals in straight losses after gaining the double chance. For the 16 months with limited internet access I only posted once or twice a week. After I’d completed my training my interest had decreased so I just continued at this level of posting for a while. I was technically active, but at a very limited level.
- I spent 6 months on deployment in Afghanistan and had nothing to do in my free time as we couldn’t leave our base. We had internet access though. This is when my interest and activity bounced back. I was engaged in match threads in a way I hadn’t been since S11. The league had changed though and spam was now a thing. Match threads were suddenly filled with content that had nothing to do with match banter. Forum posting standards had changed significantly as well. I tried to get back into the more aggressive banter style that had been common previously but was given multiple friendly warnings from moderators that knew me from the old days telling me we weren’t allowed to say stuff like that anymore. I just adapted to the casual posting style I still go with these days where I just try to enjoy good banter with my team mates and opposition.
- The leadership team at the Bombers decided they wanted to rebrand the club due to the Essendon drug scandal. They felt like it was getting hard to recruit new players. They were totally open with me and the other long-term players about their proposal. I understood the reasoning but didn’t like it. Worse still, they chose to go with the Bandits, which I thought was one of the worst options of those proposed. I lost all interest in the team and soon after I told the captain I was going to take a break and not to name me while I was away. This is where I fell behind Tarks in games played. Had I not made that request I would’ve played 200 games at the club. If the Bandits had never happened there’s a chance I could still be a Bomber now. I would like to go back sometime, when the time is right. That is likely to be a fair way off though. Some will be aware that KohPhi actually joined the Demons one off season but changed his mind soon after. What people don’t know is that part of my pitch to sign him was an agreement that if he played for the Demons and decided he wanted to go back to the Bombers at some time I’d go back with him to the Bombers for a season.
The short time I was captain. This is where I saw the value of having active teammates over match stats. I moved myself out of the midfield and played as a small defender. Back pocket when the team was at peak activity and back flank when flanker’s posting dropped off. We also got on a winning run late in the season I took over and were top of the ladder when I had to hand over the captaincy. I’d be interested in seeing my win/loss ratio as captain. I’m pretty confident it’d be right up there with the best.
This is where my eternal rookie status came about. Around the time where my activity levels had increased again This Is Anfield had a “Meet The Rookies” included me in a media segment where he’d interview some of the SFA rookies. I played along, not letting him know I had been around for years, but most of my answers referenced things from my SFA history. I’ve been a rookie ever since. I’m guessing most of the people who reference me as a rookie don’t even know why they’re doing it. Well, this is why…
Media - Inside Qooty Episode 1
My time off from the Bandits wasn’t because I had lost interest in the SFA; just that I didn’t like the Bandits as the club identity. So when Tarks hit me up about joining the Furies I decided to give it a go. The fact that I even considered joining the Furies shows how much I hated the Bandits. There’s always been something about the Furies that isn’t quite right. But I actually enjoyed the majority of my time there and felt like it was a pretty solid group. In the third season a few of my favourites dropped off significantly, including Tarks, and the second half of the season was a total shitfight. So I accepted an offer to join the Demons.
Highlight at the Furies.
Leaving.
I don’t really need to say much about the Demons. In my time there it has been consistently one of the best quality clubs in the SFA every season, if not the best. There’s always been incredible depth of posters a great mix of personalities who all bring something positive to the club. The team we’ll be taking into Season 35 is probably the best quality line-up we’ve had since I joined.
Highlight at the Demons
My team mates.
Statistically season 8 was your best, but you've been pretty consistent. You'd be one of the few players with that sort of longevity between top tier seasons, how have you managed to reinvent yourself and your interest in the league constantly? Which is the best season you can think of?
No season really stands out. Season 7 was great alongside amos. Season 8 was great from a statistics point of view. I really enjoyed captaining the Bombers from late Season 10 to mid-late Season 11. Every season has been great with the Demons.
Playing in the midfield and being one of the highest stats winners in the comp over the majority of my early seasons was great at the time, but even back then it was the match thread banter that I enjoyed most. I moved myself away from the midfield when I was captain because that midfield position could be used for incentive to encourage other team mates to get more involved. I’ve had seasons where I’ve been in the top 6 or so posters in the club but sat happily in a forward pocket because I was part of an active team. So I guess if there was a way I reinvented myself it was the lower care factor regarding stats.
Having said that, I do enjoy seeing the sim treat me well. And one highlight I should mention was the season I played half forward all season and outscored every Furies player and ranked higher than a good percentage of full-time midfielders.
Favourite position to play?
Full Forward I played there once for the Bombers and kicked a bag and spookism named me full forward one season in SoO. I ended up leading the goal kicker for minor rounds and finals and won the medal in the Grand Final. That was the same season I outscored all Furies from half forward in the regular season.
I don’t care too much about where I play but I definitely wouldn’t knock back the opportunity to play a season at full forward at some stage.
You’ve played more games with Tarks then anyone else, where does he rank in your favourite players to play with? Who is your favourite teammate? If you want to be controversial, who’s your least?
Who’s Tarks?
Yeah, he’s right up there. Top quality poster. Top quality person. Looking forward to jumping ship and leaving him behind again though. So’s he, probably.
Does anyone remember Bushranger? He was terrible. But I loved seeing him every time he made an appearance. Always made me laugh. Even okeydoke7 ’s ego didn’t come close to him. He might not have been SFA though.
I actually don’t have any posters I hate. I think everyone brings something to the league. I don’t think naming someone I hate would be controversial but naming someone I don’t hate might be… XenXen. I never really understood why so many people hated her so much. She spammed the hell out of the first match thread I shared with here but after that she was much better. I don’t think people gave her much of a chance.
How do you think the league has evolved over time? You've seen the transition from 2-page match threads, to more content, right through to the content explosion we see today. Is there a period you loved more than others?
Yeah, there have been big changes over the time I’ve been involved. The increase in posters and activity has been great. A lot of people who weren’t around in the first 12 or so seasons don’t understand how different the whole site was back then. There was no tagging or reactions. People had no notifications at all so the comp relied heavily on people actually navigating to the SFA to take part. People might think the SFA was pretty crap in comparison to now, but that’s not the case. It was just as enjoyable for me. And you could get away with a lot more in the banter than you can these days. Posting these days is pretty tame compared to how things got on occasions in the past.
A lot of threads these days end up being filled with a lot of crap that has absolutely nothing to do with qooty. So higher activity is not always better. There is good and bad in each situation.
What does your future hold?
There are plenty of players in the league I’d like to play alongside. A couple of those will get that tick this season but I feel that I need to tick off a few more. I can feel a change on the horizon.
You’re top 10 in most stats except goals and behinds. Do you blame Tarks because he hogs FF keeping you out of the forward line? Can you see yourself resting forward more as your career continues to try and slide into the top 10 in those categories?
Tarks hasn’t played a season at FF for a while. I think he’d like to though. So anyone other than him would be great
I’ll play wherever suits the balance of the team most. I’m happy to play anywhere as long as those in other positions are contributing. If that's in the forward lie then who knows, I might be a chance of moving up the goal kicking ranks. Especially if I ever get a chance to play FF. I'm less than 100 goals outside the top 10. But that's not really that important.
Thanks Snags, some great memories and times and it has proved you’re a true superstar of the comp. Moving on our next inductee for this season is the much-loved Spookism!
This is NOT my copy.Thanks Bonce, it’s a huge honour and yeah your right prior to the Sweet FA, I was involved in a similar concept...
Wow that waifu pillow is gonna get some loving tonight sausageroll :stern lookOur first inductee for Season 34 is a person I’m personally delighted in seeing reach the Hall of Fame, being a former teammate of mine both here and in the Fantasy Cricket comp before it died sausageroll. I caught up with Snags and discussed his time in the SFA now he’s reached the pinnacle of Individual awards.
Snags first congratulations on the HOF honour, what drew you into the SFA? Did someone invite you or did you stumble across the board by yourself?
Cheers Bonce, it’s an incredible honour and not something I ever dreamed about setting out to achieve when I joined.
Excellent lead into the first question mate, what drew you into the SFA? Did someone invite you or did you stumble across the board by yourself?
I joined BF as a resource for AFL Dream Team back in the good old days where you had to do your own research on players, and everything wasn’t handed to you on a platter. I was looking through the fantasy football forums and stumbled onto the SFA. I’d written basic footy sim programs in the past and had put a draft down for a more complex version but never got around to putting it into code. So when I saw Qooty I was instantly interested in seeing what this sim like. The Sharks had just been created I liked the work @Frankston Rover had done with the team so I joined them.
What were your first impressions of the league? Did a poster in particular stand out? Was there someone you tried to model your posting style on?
I enjoyed it right from the start. I started as a small forward but soon worked my way into the midfield. I was blessed with amos as a team mate that season. He was the most imaginative poster I’ve seen in and fantasy footy league who would bring team mates and opposition players into the thread with his posting. We had a similar attitude towards the game and bounced off each other really well that season. To this day, he’s still my favourite poster ever.
From the opposition, WCE_all_da_Way (Wally) and Big Man (Biggie) became instant favourites, mostly because I knew them from a forum called Talking Footy that we’d been on previously. Those two would become rivals for All-SFA spots in the midfield over the next few seasons.
Tarkyn_24 and Pie 4 Life were two that were always engaging from the start and I have enjoyed banter with and against in SFA and in rival qooty leagues.
There are a lot of current posters that I like a lot, but there’s a different level of enjoyment whenever I see any of the players from my early seasons (S7-S11) posting. The posters from those days are all among my favourites and I’m lucky to have quite a few of them as team mates at the Demons, some going stronger than ever.
Now its fair to say you’ve enjoyed your time at multiple clubs having played at 5 clubs over your journey, which club has been your favourite to play at? What do you remember about your time at each club?
I’ve really enjoyed periods with all clubs I’ve played at. The first season at the Sharks was great alongside amos and only one of the most controversial losses in the history of the game cost us a spot in the grand final.
The next season saw the Sharks merge with the Dragons, which technically counts as a change of clubs. A couple of people at the Bombers asked me to join them but the “Shagons” had several players I liked from another comp I’d been dragged across to in my first season (Take Forum) so I decided to stay. Over the next few seasons, more and more of the players I liked dropped off, while the Bombers kept hitting me up to join them. Eventually, after three seasons at the Dragons, I decided to move.
Highlight at the Dragons:
I still hold the record for the Dragons highest ever DT score for one match. I scored 173 DT, including 27 posessions, 11 tackles and 6 goals. It was in the first ever game for the Dragons and in the following 28 seasons no-one has ever matched it. There was no All-SFA that season but I led the league in stats. I’m not sure if there has ever been more DT points scored in a season by any other player. I’d like to know either way.
My time at the Bombers was split into four distinct periods…
Highlights at the Bombers:
- 1 and ½ seasons of full activity and 2 x All-SFA. I took over the captaincy late in my first season and recruited heavily, targeting my favourite ex-players and players from other qooty comps. Back in those days there were limits on how big threads on BF could be and the Bombers team thread broke those limits, which was unheard of from a team thread. The Hawks responded with a similar recruiting drive and for a short time the two clubs were posting powerhouses in the league and full of stars from the time. This, along with my history with Wally and Biggie and respect for their past players, is the reason I continue to be firmly against the rebrand of the club.
- In the second half of my second season with the Bombers I joined the RAAF. This included 10 weeks at recruit training where I had no access to internet at all and then 16 months of temporary postings and training where I had incredibly slow only dial up internet access. When I joined the RAAF we were top of the ladder. I had to step down from captaincy and couldn’t post for the rest of the season. I found out later that the team went out of the finals in straight losses after gaining the double chance. For the 16 months with limited internet access I only posted once or twice a week. After I’d completed my training my interest had decreased so I just continued at this level of posting for a while. I was technically active, but at a very limited level.
- I spent 6 months on deployment in Afghanistan and had nothing to do in my free time as we couldn’t leave our base. We had internet access though. This is when my interest and activity bounced back. I was engaged in match threads in a way I hadn’t been since S11. The league had changed though and spam was now a thing. Match threads were suddenly filled with content that had nothing to do with match banter. Forum posting standards had changed significantly as well. I tried to get back into the more aggressive banter style that had been common previously but was given multiple friendly warnings from moderators that knew me from the old days telling me we weren’t allowed to say stuff like that anymore. I just adapted to the casual posting style I still go with these days where I just try to enjoy good banter with my team mates and opposition.
- The leadership team at the Bombers decided they wanted to rebrand the club due to the Essendon drug scandal. They felt like it was getting hard to recruit new players. They were totally open with me and the other long-term players about their proposal. I understood the reasoning but didn’t like it. Worse still, they chose to go with the Bandits, which I thought was one of the worst options of those proposed. I lost all interest in the team and soon after I told the captain I was going to take a break and not to name me while I was away. This is where I fell behind Tarks in games played. Had I not made that request I would’ve played 200 games at the club. If the Bandits had never happened there’s a chance I could still be a Bomber now. I would like to go back sometime, when the time is right. That is likely to be a fair way off though. Some will be aware that KohPhi actually joined the Demons one off season but changed his mind soon after. What people don’t know is that part of my pitch to sign him was an agreement that if he played for the Demons and decided he wanted to go back to the Bombers at some time I’d go back with him to the Bombers for a season.
The short time I was captain. This is where I saw the value of having active teammates over match stats. I moved myself out of the midfield and played as a small defender. Back pocket when the team was at peak activity and back flank when flanker’s posting dropped off. We also got on a winning run late in the season I took over and were top of the ladder when I had to hand over the captaincy. I’d be interested in seeing my win/loss ratio as captain. I’m pretty confident it’d be right up there with the best.
This is where my eternal rookie status came about. Around the time where my activity levels had increased again This Is Anfield had a “Meet The Rookies” included me in a media segment where he’d interview some of the SFA rookies. I played along, not letting him know I had been around for years, but most of my answers referenced things from my SFA history. I’ve been a rookie ever since. I’m guessing most of the people who reference me as a rookie don’t even know why they’re doing it. Well, this is why…
Media - Inside Qooty Episode 1
My time off from the Bandits wasn’t because I had lost interest in the SFA; just that I didn’t like the Bandits as the club identity. So when Tarks hit me up about joining the Furies I decided to give it a go. The fact that I even considered joining the Furies shows how much I hated the Bandits. There’s always been something about the Furies that isn’t quite right. But I actually enjoyed the majority of my time there and felt like it was a pretty solid group. In the third season a few of my favourites dropped off significantly, including Tarks, and the second half of the season was a total shitfight. So I accepted an offer to join the Demons.
Highlight at the Furies.
Leaving.
I don’t really need to say much about the Demons. In my time there it has been consistently one of the best quality clubs in the SFA every season, if not the best. There’s always been incredible depth of posters a great mix of personalities who all bring something positive to the club. The team we’ll be taking into Season 35 is probably the best quality line-up we’ve had since I joined.
Highlight at the Demons
My team mates.
Statistically season 8 was your best, but you've been pretty consistent. You'd be one of the few players with that sort of longevity between top tier seasons, how have you managed to reinvent yourself and your interest in the league constantly? Which is the best season you can think of?
No season really stands out. Season 7 was great alongside amos. Season 8 was great from a statistics point of view. I really enjoyed captaining the Bombers from late Season 10 to mid-late Season 11. Every season has been great with the Demons.
Playing in the midfield and being one of the highest stats winners in the comp over the majority of my early seasons was great at the time, but even back then it was the match thread banter that I enjoyed most. I moved myself away from the midfield when I was captain because that midfield position could be used for incentive to encourage other team mates to get more involved. I’ve had seasons where I’ve been in the top 6 or so posters in the club but sat happily in a forward pocket because I was part of an active team. So I guess if there was a way I reinvented myself it was the lower care factor regarding stats.
Having said that, I do enjoy seeing the sim treat me well. And one highlight I should mention was the season I played half forward all season and outscored every Furies player and ranked higher than a good percentage of full-time midfielders.
Favourite position to play?
Full Forward I played there once for the Bombers and kicked a bag and spookism named me full forward one season in SoO. I ended up leading the goal kicker for minor rounds and finals and won the medal in the Grand Final. That was the same season I outscored all Furies from half forward in the regular season.
I don’t care too much about where I play but I definitely wouldn’t knock back the opportunity to play a season at full forward at some stage.
You’ve played more games with Tarks then anyone else, where does he rank in your favourite players to play with? Who is your favourite teammate? If you want to be controversial, who’s your least?
Who’s Tarks?
Yeah, he’s right up there. Top quality poster. Top quality person. Looking forward to jumping ship and leaving him behind again though. So’s he, probably.
Does anyone remember Bushranger? He was terrible. But I loved seeing him every time he made an appearance. Always made me laugh. Even okeydoke7 ’s ego didn’t come close to him. He might not have been SFA though.
I actually don’t have any posters I hate. I think everyone brings something to the league. I don’t think naming someone I hate would be controversial but naming someone I don’t hate might be… XenXen. I never really understood why so many people hated her so much. She spammed the hell out of the first match thread I shared with here but after that she was much better. I don’t think people gave her much of a chance.
How do you think the league has evolved over time? You've seen the transition from 2-page match threads, to more content, right through to the content explosion we see today. Is there a period you loved more than others?
Yeah, there have been big changes over the time I’ve been involved. The increase in posters and activity has been great. A lot of people who weren’t around in the first 12 or so seasons don’t understand how different the whole site was back then. There was no tagging or reactions. People had no notifications at all so the comp relied heavily on people actually navigating to the SFA to take part. People might think the SFA was pretty crap in comparison to now, but that’s not the case. It was just as enjoyable for me. And you could get away with a lot more in the banter than you can these days. Posting these days is pretty tame compared to how things got on occasions in the past.
A lot of threads these days end up being filled with a lot of crap that has absolutely nothing to do with qooty. So higher activity is not always better. There is good and bad in each situation.
What does your future hold?
There are plenty of players in the league I’d like to play alongside. A couple of those will get that tick this season but I feel that I need to tick off a few more. I can feel a change on the horizon.
You’re top 10 in most stats except goals and behinds. Do you blame Tarks because he hogs FF keeping you out of the forward line? Can you see yourself resting forward more as your career continues to try and slide into the top 10 in those categories?
Tarks hasn’t played a season at FF for a while. I think he’d like to though. So anyone other than him would be great
I’ll play wherever suits the balance of the team most. I’m happy to play anywhere as long as those in other positions are contributing. If that's in the forward lie then who knows, I might be a chance of moving up the goal kicking ranks. Especially if I ever get a chance to play FF. I'm less than 100 goals outside the top 10. But that's not really that important.
Thanks Snags, some great memories and times and it has proved you’re a true superstar of the comp. Moving on our next inductee for this season is the much-loved Spookism!
You don't need a title to lead.I gotta say, I'm feeling a bit stiffed right now. I was all set to give a gracious acceptance speech, but it seems like I won't be giving one after all. That's right, despite being the king of the Qooty banter, despite leading the Bombers to three premierships, despite being the poster that every other poster aspires to be, I've been snubbed by the Hall of Fame.
I don't know what more a bloke can do. I've left it all out on the field, been the life of the party, and made the Sweet FA a better place with my wit and wisdom. And for what? To be told that I'm not good enough for the Hall of Fame? That just doesn't make sense to me, cobbers. It's like trying to tell a kangaroo to swim. It just don't belong.
So I'll just keep on posting, being the best that I can be, and showing the Hall of Fame what they're missing out on. I might not have a plaque with my name on it, but I've got the respect of the posters that matter. And that's worth more than any hall of fame could ever give me.
Let’s head home brother to our 6 cups!I gotta say, I'm feeling a bit stiffed right now. I was all set to give a gracious acceptance speech, but it seems like I won't be giving one after all. That's right, despite being the king of the Qooty banter, despite leading the Bombers to three premierships, despite being the poster that every other poster aspires to be, I've been snubbed by the Hall of Fame.
I don't know what more a bloke can do. I've left it all out on the field, been the life of the party, and made the Sweet FA a better place with my wit and wisdom. And for what? To be told that I'm not good enough for the Hall of Fame? That just doesn't make sense to me, cobbers. It's like trying to tell a kangaroo to swim. It just don't belong.
So I'll just keep on posting, being the best that I can be, and showing the Hall of Fame what they're missing out on. I might not have a plaque with my name on it, but I've got the respect of the posters that matter. And that's worth more than any hall of fame could ever give me.