Hannah McGuire - Another Senseless Ballarat Murder * Lachie Young charged

[Underarrest_]

What about this for tackling domestic violence.
WA police aren't capable of returning stolen bikes toi their owner.
They are very good at bashing people and very good at shooting dead people with knives - 30 secs upon arrival in one incident.
WA police cannot control MRO, VRO, DVRO orders - total useless.
WA Police didn't even know if the deaths last Friday where a bloke with 13 guns went out to shoot his former partner.
With gun laws tightening, they probably didn't even know if he had 13 guns and had an increasing tendency to use them on his wife.
So, take the responsibility of issuing and governing those orders away from police.
WA is a wealthy state and even if it wasn't we'd still add billions to the trillions the country owes in national debt.
Set up a specialist task force that is focussed on DV.
If a woman is concerned about a man then have refuges for them.
If a man makes threats to harm a woman or harms a woman lock him in in a state run prison.
When that man gets out it's not his wife to have to find shelter but him as his wife can have the house and he needs to find his own refuge.
When WA police do not know what a DV situation is then it's time to f off and hand the reigns to someone who can do the job properly.
If anyone would like to argue about police in WA being really good I'll give you examples where they are not, especially when it comes to DV.
I would imagine the same situation is occurring in other states but I know for a fact that WA police are as useless as **** on a bull.
A new task force is needed, either state or federal if other states think their police force are so wonderful at handling DV issues and situations.

MrsBlueSkye, There’s certainly more that can be done to decrease DV and support both victims and respondents. The Gvt has released funding for a DV specialist to be in police stations but this is still rolling out. I agree that a DV order is more than often not helpful. If police attend a DV situation they can make police referrals to other services for both the victim and respondent for support. There are many refuges for victims and their children, discrete DV services set up in some shopping centres, funding for those escaping DV and many services/Counsellors for support including hotlines who can help with a safety plan and future planning and a judge can rule an ouster order as part of a DVO for the respondent to move out of the house, but in many cases this would not be the safest option for the victim.

 

[MrsBlueSky]

MrsBlueSkye, There’s certainly more that can be done to decrease DV and support both victims and respondents. The Gvt has released funding for a DV specialist to be in police stations but this is still rolling out. I agree that a DV order is more than often not helpful. If police attend a DV situation they can make police referrals to other services for both the victim and respondent for support. There are many refuges for victims and their children, discrete DV services set up in some shopping centres, funding for those escaping DV and many services/Counsellors for support including hotlines who can help with a safety plan and future planning and a judge can rule an ouster order as part of a DVO for the respondent to move out of the house, but in many cases this would not be the safest option for the victim.

If it was me, mate, I'd kick the bloke out of the house and tell him if he comes back then he will be shot on sight.
What is in place atm is not working, not good enough and operated by people who don't care and don't even know what a DV situation is.

 

[Underarrest_]

If it was me, mate, I'd kick the bloke out of the house and tell him if he comes back then he will be shot on sight.
What is in place atm is not working, not good enough and operated by people who don't care and don't even know what a DV situation is.

There’s definitely more that can be done.

 

[MrsBlueSky]

There’s definitely more that can be done.

The perpetrators aren't dying nearly often enough in my opinion and that would be an extremely good start to fixing the DV problem.

 

[MsTeschmacher]

MrsBlueSkye, There’s certainly more that can be done to decrease DV and support both victims and respondents. The Gvt has released funding for a DV specialist to be in police stations but this is still rolling out. I agree that a DV order is more than often not helpful. If police attend a DV situation they can make police referrals to other services for both the victim and respondent for support. There are many refuges for victims and their children, discrete DV services set up in some shopping centres, funding for those escaping DV and many services/Counsellors for support including hotlines who can help with a safety plan and future planning and a judge can rule an ouster order as part of a DVO for the respondent to move out of the house, but in many cases this would not be the safest option for the victim.

Not sure which state you are in but WA refuges are consistently turning women & children away as there are not enough beds available. This is not new and has been happening for years. I've been working adjacent to this sector for years & resources are lacking for increased capacity-instead funds get spent on rubbish like White Ribbon to make people feel good & think they're doing helpful things.

 

[Underarrest_]

Not sure which state you are in but WA refuges are consistently turning women & children away as there are not enough beds available. This is not new and has been happening for years. I've been working adjacent to this sector for years & resources are lacking for increased capacity-instead funds get spent on rubbish like White Ribbon to make people feel good & think they're doing helpful things.

Agree, more can be done.

 

[MrsBlueSky]

Not sure which state you are in but WA refuges are consistently turning women & children away as there are not enough beds available. This is not new and has been happening for years. I've been working adjacent to this sector for years & resources are lacking for increased capacity-instead funds get spent on rubbish like White Ribbon to make people feel good & think they're doing helpful things.

How about making certain changes. First make the men go out looking for a bed and not the women and children.

 

[ilikeclouds]

Don't underestimate the COVID impact, particularly on young males who entered adulthood during COVID. Instead of going out and mingling with people their own age in person, they were stuck at home behind keyboards or game consoles. They were denied the opportunity to participate in things like team sports, which help enormously with the development of social skills, and are contra-indicative to mental health issues such as depression. It became 'normal' to interact with a very limited 'world' via social media rather than meeting and mixing with a diverse group of demographics and developing things like empathy, social awareness, and non-textual communication skills.
Of course, it's not all down to COVID, but COVID exacerbated an already-worsening detrimental social impact brought about by the reliance of social media rather than traditional forms of social contact and communication.

Everyone was denied these things during COVID-19, the rest of us haven't killed our partners/ex-partners.
There's no excuse except for being a sh!tty and selfish human.
We need to stop blaming parents for their ADULT offspring's actions.

 

[mrskafoops]

How about making certain changes. First make the men go out looking for a bed and not the women and children.

Men use children to control. I’ve been locked out of the house as “punishment” while my kids were inside. There was very little I could do except wait to be let back in when he felt like it. It’s not so black and white. I agree that it should be different but it’s a very difficult situation.

 

[croweater 41]

Not necessarily related to the murder but just some salt into some very deep wounds for the family. Allegedly spent it on the punt from the local reports. What made it worse was the GFM was created under the Clunes Cricket Club name and not his own name so the Cricket Club are less than impressed. Turned up to the local footy game on Saturday and was politely asked to **** off or else.

Man charged after allegedly stealing money from Hannah McGuire's GoFundMe

He'll face court later this month.

www.thecourier.com.au

A Winter Valley man has been charged after allegedly stealing from a GoFundMe account started to support the family of Hannah McGuire, a 23-year-old who was allegedly murdered by her partner.
Police confirmed the 26-year-old man was charged on June 3 with theft after alleged incidents between April 25 and May 8.
The Courier understands it's alleged he repeatedly accessed the GoFundMe account, which was set up days after Ms McGuire's death. The GoFundMe has now been shut down - it's understood it raised about $65,000, which was allegedly never delivered to the McGuire family.