Taken the liberty to make this a little more factual.
Holding the ball
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Depends which game you watched.Yep apparently there is no such thing as prior opportunity anymore
In the Richmond - Sydney game there were three clear incorrect disposals in a row at one point. A free could (and should have) been paid to either side. Instead the play was allowed to continue - the result was a ball-up and the whole dismal process started again.
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There were two that were bad that I remember
Whoever the West Coast player (?) who was immediately tackled by Jones in the Crows fwd 50 - Was rough as it was a bit of a hospital handpass in the first place and as he got the ball he simultaneously braced for the immediate tackle
The other was when Hamill slipped over, was half tackled as he shot a 10 metre handpass off to a team mate but she called 'ball' immediately
Careful, you'll be labelled as sexist pigs...
Wrong. Totallythe opposite thing to do if you want the game to flow.
The umpires are now not blowing the whistle to quickly. They are allowing extra time for the ball to come out of a scrimage and also allow time for a player to make a genuine attempt to dispose of the ball.
Thats fine.
No matter what the rule is umps will make good calls and not so good calls. Thats football. But we need to get the game moving.
After that terrible Tigers v Swans game with Longmire flooding 75000 players into defense we will see the move to four players inside 50 at all times IMO. Two forwards and two defenders.
The Swans and the negative defensive tactics from Roos and now Longmire have ambushed the game. Terrible to watch.
OK, I’ll split it down the middle with you. 20 years?
Actually went back to the normal interpretation in the Carlton game rather than the ridiculous no genuine attempt rubbish they had been using since Clarksons spray.
There were plenty of times they could of pinged players based on some other games this weekend, but the umpire just decided to ball it up
Ironically this was the most free flowing entertaining game of the weekend.
That plus when they do get the ball out and rebound from defense quickly the players look up and have noone to kick to in the forward line. Then they wait if they marked it or kick backwards to allow the forwards to run forward to set up.
Its a shocking situation. Then the forwards who have just sprinted from defense are rooted, fumble and dont score.
We need tired mids and fresh forwards taking big marks and kicking goals.
You're probably right, this is officially Carlton's 20th anniversary of mediocrity.
You can be forgiven for thinking I've been bagging Carlton for my entire lifetime - they have been easy fodder for my entire lifetime on BigFooty.
Allowing the ball to come out has been the status quo for the paast 10-20 years. It's made things worse.
By not blowing the whistle straight away, it gives time for players to swarm, creating congestion.
The "genuine attempt" nonsense keeps the ball in the area more, as it allows players to hold onto the ball for 20s doing feck all. On top of that, throws and drops are considered a genuine attempt. Spare me just a little.
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And the thing is, Clarko didnt say to pay it the way they had been. He said to pay it the way we saw in the first half.
No prior, ball up.
Prior, must dispose correctly or free kick against.
I honestly dont know why its so hard for the umpires. They called it correctly for decades. Back when there was only 1 or 2 umpires and they earned $100 a week.
Now they earn $2,000 a week.
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Reward the bloke/sheila who is first to the ball, actually picks up the ball, and tries to make a play with it.
The tackler is second to the ball, and in no with their act contributes to free flowing footy, quite the opposite. The tackler is the absolute last person who should be getting the benefit of the doubt.
Clarko has it completely upside-down.
The tackler is second to the ball, and in no with their act contributes to free flowing footy, quite the opposite. The tackler is the absolute last person who should be getting the benefit of the doubt.
Clarko has it completely upside-down.
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Can't help but feel the natural progression of where things are going will be basically if you are tackled with the ball it will be a free kick against you. Essentially leading to soccer with an oval ball. But hey, at least the rule will be easy to understand.....
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the interpretation is screwed now thanks to Clarko and a reactive AFL admin.
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it's incredible isn't it...these people want the 'spectacle' of a bunch of grown men standing up in a cluster kicking the ball on the ground between each other because the first person to pick up the ball will be penalized.
Clarko has gone the way of Sheedy, geez obsolescence really sneaks up on you.
Edit: let's run a little book on the year that shin-guards become standard issue in AFL.
My call: 2025
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It really is that simple
I wonder if there's a place on the AFL Rules Committee for you?!?
The AFL hates clear cut rules. They want confusion as it allows them to manipulate as required.
