How long before Bryce Lewis gets arrested..

[ozzyoslo]

You need help.

Unashamed Wick Astley fan........and proud!!
Heap of british 80's stars are coming to Oslo for a blast from the past concert........no harm in taking a trip back in time BE.

 

[Liam Boy]

Atley was very good. He just set the bar high after 2012.
Harper was good in his first year and alright in the second. He had a bad 2013, but he'll be back
Delaney looked good when he played.
Don't know shit about Mabon, won't pretend to. Doesn't look good for him, either way.

We got Aaron Mullett late in the rookie draft that followed, and that's nothing short of a steal, and in addition we got Cameron Pedersen, who turned into an absolute spud but he was good for a short period and helped us out for a year.

 

[Bigeasy]

Unashamed Wick Astley fan........and proud!!
Heap of british 80's stars are coming to Oslo for a blast from the past concert........no harm in taking a trip back in time BE.

How about the Inspiral Carpets? Are they planning some gigs?

 

[Daveo Plonk]

How about the Inspiral Carpets? Are they planning some gigs?

Have they made it big yet?
Can't be long now.

 

[Tander]

Unashamed Wick Astley fan........and proud!!
Heap of british 80's stars are coming to Oslo for a blast from the past concert........no harm in taking a trip back in time BE.

I was his monitor engineer on his Victorian dates earlier this year. Bloody nice bloke and still got it.
Pitty he couldn't play his last show at Chelsea Height hotel, never seen someone fine like he was then 5 minutes later throwing up like he was going to die....

 

[ozzyoslo]

How about the Inspiral Carpets? Are they planning some gigs?

Not commercial enough for the norwegian market.
Nick Kershaw, Sammy Fox, Bananarama, Kim Wilde , Wick tied in with some Norgy 80's artists that obviously I have never heard of. Should be a good night for those on the wrong side of 40.

 

[Daz]

Thought I'd have a look at his work.


2008

Pick 9 - Ziebell - Was never sliding any lower than this. Would've been tough to **** up in that top 10.
Pick 27 - Wright - Struggling. Hell of a lot of quality still around (Beams, Hanners, Roughead almost directly after)
Pick 43 - Anthony - Fail
Pick 59 - O'Keefe - Fail
Rookie - White - Fail
Rookie - Delaney - Reasonable for a rookie pick
Rookie - Speight - Fail
Rookie - Obst - Fail
Rookie - Meredith - Fail

It's a good thing Jack's bloody blue and white Jesus because after that we badly ****ed up the best draft of the last decade.


2009

Pick 5 - Cunnington - Was the obvious selection based on best available and needs.
Pick 21 - Bastinac - Very good call.
Pick 25 - Black - Awesome
Pick 37 - MacMillan - Good
Pick 41 - Kennedy - Fail
Pick 53 - Norris - Fail
Rookie - Daw - Looking good even if it was Euge's call.
Rookie - Scott - Fail

Getting Cunnington despite the top 15 being poor is big (even if it was an obvious call). The draft actually really picked up after 15 and we definitely got amongst it. Reckon we've got 2 certain top 50 players in the comp (Cunners, Black), one top 100 (Basti), one best 22 (JMac) and still one potential superstar (Daw).


2010

Pick 17 - Atley - Slider of the draft along with Darling. Easy selection. We hadn't even interviewed him.
Pick 27 - Harper - Shaky. To be fair, not much went after him.
Pick 69 - Delaney - An unknown to some extent but looking reasonable.
Pick 71 - Mabon - Fail. Really strange selection.
Rookie - Pedersen - Fail
Rookie - Mullett - Stroke of ****ing genius

Still so much we don't know about this class. Atley could be anything, as could Harper (although it's significantly less likely). Mullett's our first rookie gem for a while. Delaney is my tip to make it look like a really good one for us.


2011

Pick 18 - McKenzie - Jury still out but not much went after him.
Pick 40 - Curran - Took the risk on the bloke with injury concerns. Not looking great.
Rookie - Warren - Jury out
Rookie - Mangan - Fail
Rookie - Lynch - Fail
Rookie - Gibson - Pass

I don't think Gibson is enough of a return for 3 picks invested in mature agers. Disappointing. Looking at what else was around, we've done well with McKenzie, even if he does have a long way to go.


2012

Pick 15 - Garner - Jury out
Pick 41 - Wood - Jury out
Pick 47 - Wilkins - Jury out
Pick 56 - Currie - Looks to be a worthwhile acquisition
Rookie - McGennis - Jury out

Yeah, too soon.


One other thing I will say is, whether intentional or not, we've done well to draft Hansen/Thompson/Tarrant/Grima/Goldstein before the mids came in. With talls taking longer to develop, it should mean the group hit their peak at roughly the same time. You don't want a situation like Brisbane where they've got the mids but are nowhere because even if they draft a swag of gun KPP's, they're 4 years away from being good anyway.

 

[r_boy]

Are Anthony and Perdersen really fails though? I thought they were serviceable for the time they've been here.

And some other guys like Ben Speight. Okay I guess they were fails but I can totally why they were drafted.

 

[MagicalRoos]

I wouldn't say Cunnington was the obvious choice. There was some angst (here) between Rohan and Cunners pre-draft and with the acquisition of Ziebell the year before I wouldn't say it was sorely needs-based either.
I'd give it a 'good call' personally.

 

[Daz]

I wouldn't say Cunnington was the obvious choice. There was some angst (here) between Rohan and Cunners pre-draft and with the acquisition of Ziebell the year before I wouldn't say it was sorely needs-based either.
I'd give it a 'good call' personally.

Fair, particularly with Cunnington.

 

[Daz]

Are Anthony and Perdersen really fails though? I thought they were serviceable for the time they've been here.

And some other guys like Ben Speight. Okay I guess they were fails but I can totally why they were drafted.

Anthony went in the 40's in a genuine superdraft. Definite fail.

 

[Ghostwriter]

I was his monitor engineer on his Victorian dates earlier this year. Bloody nice bloke and still got it.
Pitty he couldn't play his last show at Chelsea Height hotel, never seen someone fine like he was then 5 minutes later throwing up like he was going to die....

Drugs?

 

[utility]

I think what that lists shows it's really a crap shoot past pick 40-50. You have to nail the first two rounds. In 2013 Wright and Harper struggled. Other than that our 1st/2nd rounders can't really be questioned.

 

[Shagga is all Class]

2009

Pick 5 - Cunnington - Was the obvious selection based on best available and needs.
Pick 21 - Bastinac - Very good call.
Pick 25 - Black - Awesome
Pick 37 - MacMillan - Good
Pick 41 - Kennedy - Fail
Pick 53 - Norris - Fail
Rookie - Daw - Looking good even if it was Euge's call.
Rookie - Scott - Fail

Getting Cunnington despite the top 15 being poor is big (even if it was an obvious call). The draft actually really picked up after 15 and we definitely got amongst it. Reckon we've got 2 certain top 50 players in the comp (Cunners, Black), one top 100 (Basti), one best 22 (JMac) and still one potential superstar (Daw).

Will take another 6-8 seasons but there are 4 players who could play 200 and a possible cult figure in Daw in the one draft.

To date there only about 26 players who have played 200 for North.

 

[Passmore]

I think what that lists shows it's really a crap shoot past pick 40-50. You have to nail the first two rounds. In 2013 Wright and Harper struggled. Other than that our 1st/2nd rounders can't really be questioned.

Good call. And you'll find the stats back that up as fact.
On Harper, I'll give him another 12 months to bounce back to the potential he displayed. Sam appears to have stagnated. This is a crunch year coming up.

 

[LT Smash]

Thought I'd have a look at his work.



Rookie - Gibson - Pass

Pass? For a rookie pick? You've made some rubbish calls but this one takes the cake.

 

[Daz]

Pass? For a rookie pick? You've made some rubbish calls but this one takes the cake.

Oh hey now, that's not very nice.

Have a look around the league at the success clubs have had with mature aged rookies. What Gibson has done isn't that special.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Have a look around the league at the success clubs have had with mature aged rookies. What Gibson has done isn't that special.

Very harsh on Gibbo, a mature aged player thrown a lifeline who'd never featured at the level before Dazzler, considering his consistency and output. To go from the back of the queue to regular B&F vote getter is a major win in my books.

 

[astrovic]

I think what that lists shows it's really a crap shoot past pick 40-50. You have to nail the first two rounds. In 2013 Wright and Harper struggled. Other than that our 1st/2nd rounders can't really be questioned.

True enough, and given that you can only play 22 players each week and that your 1/2 rounders will hopefully play close to 10 year (at least 7), after those guys fill up the team like they should, everyone draft 50 or above are probably fighting it out for 5-7 spots between them in the best 22.

 

[King Corey]

2008
Pick 43 - Anthony - Fail

Disagree. On an AFL list 6 years later and an elite ballwinner. As in he is elite in the skill of finding the ball.

Pick 59 - O'Keefe - Fail

Disagree. Was looking a promising tall forward prospect and promoted well ahead of schedule. Given a new contract. You can't attribute his personal failings to Bryce having fluffed this pick. Was Greg Miller a shoddy recruiter because Carey had an indiscretion?

Rookie - Delaney - Reasonable for a rookie pick

Pass. 3rd round in a rookie draft you net a key defender who 6 years later is sought after by other clubs? Great effort.

2010

Pick 71 - Mabon - Fail. Really strange selection.

Speculated on a young ruck, didn't work out. No biggy.

2011

Pick 18 - McKenzie - Jury still out but not much went after him.

Far too early to assess him or the rest of the draft pool

I don't think Gibson is enough of a return for 3 picks invested in mature agers. Disappointing. Looking at what else was around, we've done well with McKenzie, even if he does have a long way to go.

This was a draft that had been pre-plundered to buggery by the expansion teams and various concessions. Clearly the club felt (possibly similar to this year) that it was better going with some known quantities in this one.

Am aware of the recruiters opinion from this rookie draft being one of not knowing how it was going to go. Anyway not like a raft of undrafted blokes popped up in the 2012 draft and bit us on the bum. Therefore getting a best 22 mature mid with the last rookie pick was a very good overall return in a dry talent pool.

 

[UmpiringFooty]

I remember when Brad Scott was signed up earlier in the year. He told us that this year was going to be one where we all had to be patient. I noticed that a few of you have already posted your thoughts on who NMFC have recruited. Some comments I don't agree with but I'm not about to make a goose of myself on here.
I have faith in our list. Even if a few of you disagree with me.
As for Bryce Lewis he's doing an awesome job with our list.

 

[NiceCunnington]

but I'm not about to make a goose of myself on here.

Wouldn't want to do that.

 

[UmpiringFooty]

Anthony went in the 40's in a genuine superdraft. Definite fail.

Disagree with you there. He was runners up in the North Ballarat Best and Fairest count for 2013.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Disagree with you there. He was runners up in the North Ballarat Best and Fairest count for 2013.

And Steve Clifton won the VFL Best and Fairest.

It means nothing.

 

[GarnerSmash]

2008 hasn't worked out as well as it initially looked it would with Wright struggling in 2013 and Anthony falling away. O' Keefe had talent but lacked in other areas. Maybe this is where the 'good citizen' policy kicked in?

2009 looks like a good year with 4 best 22 players and 2010 looks like delivering potentially 3 best 22 players. Nice.

Early days yet for 2011 and 2012.

I did an analysis last week of drafting from 2006 - 2010 in comparison to 2001 - 2005 and the outcomes couldn't have been more stark. We had a strike rate of 20% from 2001 - 2005 and up to 50% from 2006 - 2010 where the standard for a positive outcome is the player being a best 22 player for a significant period. If we keep that strike rate at around that level for the 2011 - 2015 draft period and are a successful team we will have drafted superbly over that 10 year period. A 50% strike rate is an excellent outcome.