Roast IF it isn't biased or ncompetent..... THEN it must be inciteful media coverage part II

[amazingjoshy]

As others have said, it isn't the reason we lost. Amongst many others, Darling should've kicked the goal from that nothing free kick he got.

But to argue it was anything other than touched is madness.

 

[RookiePick]

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Doesn’t look any more blurry to me. You’re seeing what you want to see.

It shows the ball hasn't crossed the goal line in both images.

You think it's inconclusive? I disagree strongly.

 

[Coasters7]

Mate this is gold. Get it up on Twitter if you’re on and then tag the AFL, Fox Footy and any other talking heads you can think of.

I can see daylight between the ball and the goalpost but didn’t know about that 2009 change and that the scoreline is actually at the back of the padding...just seems that the paid video reviewer in the ARC and the commentary “experts” were also unaware of this...which is a bit of a problem I would have thought.

The other thing I find hilarious is that even if the “experts” didn’t know of the rule change (which is incompetent in itself).. surely anyone with 2 eyes can see that the padding is wider than the post and that it’s only possible for one of them to line up with the scoreline, yet both are used as references when it suits.

Just another “quirk” of this comp where everything is made up as we go and there’s no definitive set of interpretations for anything about the game. It’s all just subjective and up to the discretion of whoever’s making the call, rather than a black and white written version of exactly what the call should be (and reviewers/umpires that know every one of these written rules off the top of their head).

 

[Mulldogg]

The green line that has been superimposed onto that image is no more subjective in my view than the pitch map superimposed onto Spin Vision/Hawkeye on the cricket coverage.

Amazed that the graphics boffins at Seven or Fox Footy haven’t picked up on this earlier.

 

[Kellythatsit]

The other thing I find hilarious is that even if the “experts” didn’t know of the rule change (which is incompetent in itself).. surely anyone with 2 eyes can see that the padding is wider than the post and that it’s only possible for one of them to line up with the scoreline, yet both are used as references when it suits.

Just another “quirk” of this comp where everything is made up as we go and there’s no definitive set of interpretations for anything about the game. It’s all just subjective and up to the discretion of whoever’s making the call, rather than a black and white written version of exactly what the call should be (and reviewers/umpires that know every one of these written rules off the top of their head).

Exactly. It's either one or the other.

You either admit that every decision in the game will come down to some kind of interpretation, or you ensure that black and white decisions are adjudicated correctly.

If it's the former then get rid of the ARC altogether and put the money back into umpiring; if its the latter you must ensure decision makers know the rules they need to apply, and the measurement technology is up to a standard so that decision making is not hindered.

 

[Kellythatsit]

The green line that has been superimposed onto that image is no more subjective in my view than the pitch map superimposed onto Spin Vision/Hawkeye on the cricket coverage.

Amazed that the graphics boffins at Seven or Fox Footy haven’t picked upon this earlier.

It's likely because they have never looked at the actual rule.

 

[Grahame]

Just had another look at the original vision and the review.

The padding is still visible in the first close up and it is easy to draw a line up from the padding up and see that part of the ball is clearly in front of that line. (Then they zoom right in on the ball and the padding can't be seen. Also the commentators are only talking about whether it is behind the post not the padding.) So a clear case of all concerned - specialist reviewer or expert commentators - not knowing the AFL's rules.

Then just to rub salt in the wound, the reviewer says 'looking at it from this angle there is insufficient evidence to overturn the umpire's call'. From this it is easy to infer they didn't look at the other angle where it looks like part of the ball is in front of the back of the post.

Conspiracy? No. Stuff up? Definitely.

 

[Bender_]

The West Coast Eagles BF board marching on AFL House (currently located in a beach resort where they're quarantining AKA sipping drinks with little umbrellas by a swim up bar):

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Well, at least we get a big break before finals?

 

[RookiePick]

Well, at least we get a big break before finals?

We requested Thursday. All good.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

We requested Thursday. All good.

Yeah, we get the longest break if we don't get the Wednesday first final. Hopefully, it's a home final.

 

[FreeTK]

Yeah, we get the longest break if we don't get the Wednesday first final. Hopefully, it's a home final.

I hope it's not.

I want it to be a Qualifying Final against Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

I hope it's not.

I want it to be a Qualifying Final against Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval.

Gill pretty much pissed on a home preliminary final. Said it would be "difficult".

 

[MIKE85]

If we finish 5th or 6th, we will 1000% get that Wednesday final. We all know it

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

If we finish 5th or 6th, we will 1000% get that Wednesday final. We all know it

If we get Yeo, Shuey and Cripps back I would back us. But yeah they will make it as hard as possible always.

 

[MIKE85]

And it will start at the family friendly, and peak hour parallel time of 6:10pm.

 

[FreeTK]

Gill pretty much pissed on a home preliminary final. Said it would be "difficult".

Nisbett is trying to work with WA gov to get the quarantine time down.

Either way, I'd be ok with QF in AO and prelim outside of WA if that is what it came down to.

 

[FreeTK]

If we finish 5th or 6th, we will 1000% get that Wednesday final. We all know it

So what?

More time to rest between 1st and 2nd final.

 

[FreeTK]

 

[Oxirane]

It's likely because they have never looked at the actual rule.

All the commentary I've listened to about it so far (even Duff and Quarters) has mentioned "One angle the ball has crossed the line and the other it didn't; therefore umpires call."
I assume the post defining the goal line position when the ball is above the padding must be written on a Post-It note somewhere in the media rooms, but not the anywhere I can find in the rules.

 

[shooshka]

I hope it's not.

I want it to be a Qualifying Final against Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval.

100% this.

We get a 7-day break into the Kangaroos game (note they are off a 5-day break), and at least a 13-day break into round 1 of finals.

Great for Yeo (assuming he plays Kangaroos game), Shuey should be cherry ripe, and depending on how bad Redden's injury is there may be a chance there. Also gives baby Cripps a window of opportunity to arrive.

Win our 2 games, and cheer for geelong (yuk, but has to be done) and we are almost certain to be 4th playing PA @ AO (barring any other surprise results). We have to take care of our business though.

 

[Grahame]

Just for the record this is what the vision showed. Looks to me like it's pretty obvious not all the ball has passed the back of the padding which is visible at the bottom.

(Someone with more tech expertise might be able to get a better pic.)

 

[woosha24]

Win our 2 games, and cheer for geelong (yuk, but has to be done) and we are almost certain to be 4th playing PA @ AO (barring any other surprise results).

I like your optimism but I think St Kilda may just be a bridge too far with our projected outs. Its so bad im waiting by the phone for Simmo to call declaring me an emergency IN. Im sure he's very impressed with my primary school goalkicking average. I just hope I can still fit into the shorts!

 

[FreeTK]

Just for the record this is what the vision showed. Looks to me like it's pretty obvious not all the ball has passed the back of the padding which is visible at the bottom.

(Someone with more tech expertise might be able to get a better pic.)

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Can't believe we are actually still talking about this.

Move on.

We have a game in two days.

 

[Dylan82]

Well, at least we get a big break before finals?

Best we could hope for, getting an extended break before finals.

Now to cobble something in the meantime from the players that are available to ensure finals qualification.